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VOTE: VoidedMafia

Got nothing to claim (according to LB's rules).

In post 3099, Espeonage wrote:1 Self Watch
2 Federal Reserve Chairman
2 Neighbourizer
10 to LB
50 to Morph

In the event of Deadline hitting, Happy to vote with pretty much any wagon. Preferences being Muffin, Kingdom, Garuda.

So you transferred all your money last night as per morph's plan?

there's no way in hell thinking Seanald was derptown to the point of not voting him came from a town thought process. he even mentioned smth about the red auctions where town doesn't get any extra info on the red auctions. but he apparently thought he had a good enough chance of being town after all that shit to not vote him. srsly

In post 3101, Lost Butterfly wrote:

In post 3099, Espeonage wrote:1 Self Watch
2 Federal Reserve Chairman
2 Neighbourizer
10 to LB
50 to Morph

In the event of Deadline hitting, Happy to vote with pretty much any wagon. Preferences being Muffin, Kingdom, Garuda.

So you transferred all your money last night as per morph's plan?

No

In post 3102, pieguyn wrote:

vote: zmuffin

there's no way in hell thinking Seanald was derptown to the point of not voting him came from a town thought process. he even mentioned smth about the red auctions where town doesn't get any extra info on the red auctions. but he apparently thought he had a good enough chance of being town after all that shit to not vote him. srsly

UD was like that too, wasn't he?

Also, are you still scumreading Voided?

Hey I forgot I had a third shot on my medium so I'm channeling no one

I only really caught up with the end-of-day fiasco after Seanald had flipped and didn't bother to do the math myself, but actually, at the point where his bids matched up with what his amounts would say if he just looked at his QT, it should have been obvious that he wasn't Because it meant he was getting those numbers from his actual PMs/quicktopics, and given how terrible the rest of his play was, he couldn't have faked a townslip like that. In any rate, this is a really superficial reason to vote Muffin. His reaction didn't come across as particularly unreasonable or informed. (In fact, at the time, I'd thought both he and Voided came out of the end-of-day clusterfuck looking really good.)

EBWOP: it should have been obvious that he .

@Esp: yeah but I wanna do something that isn't just instawagoning Voided. that said, why zmuffin over Voided?

@LB: I had thoughts like that about the money, but I couldn't overlook how he differentiated between the normal and red auctions. I was convinced there's no way in hell town could say smth like that because town gets no additional information on the red auctions besides "the mafia have an advantage"

...um, EBWOP AGAIN, "what his amounts would say if he just looked at Magua posting the amounts of money he had left in the QT before he found out if he was getting anything back."

In post 3103, Espeonage wrote:

In post 3101, Lost Butterfly wrote:

In post 3099, Espeonage wrote:1 Self Watch
2 Federal Reserve Chairman
2 Neighbourizer
10 to LB
50 to Morph

In the event of Deadline hitting, Happy to vote with pretty much any wagon. Preferences being Muffin, Kingdom, Garuda.

So you transferred all your money last night as per morph's plan?

No

...well, it was worth a try.

Was I allowed to bid on anything? Would have won doctor if I could

Abductor x 1
Auction Detective x 2
Austerity Measures x 1
Bulletproof x 2
Coroner x 2
Extra Vote x 1
Federal Reserve Chairman x 1
Governor x 1
Gravedigger x 1
Love Potion x 1
Market Analyst x 3
Medium x 3
Roleblocker x 3
Self-Watch x 1
Tailor x 3

I bid $5 on all these

In post 3112, BBmolla wrote:Was I allowed to bid on anything? Would have won doctor if I could

Abductor x 1
Auction Detective x 2
Austerity Measures x 1
Bulletproof x 2
Coroner x 2
Extra Vote x 1
Federal Reserve Chairman x 1
Governor x 1
Gravedigger x 1
Love Potion x 1
Market Analyst x 3
Medium x 3
Roleblocker x 3
Self-Watch x 1
Tailor x 3

I bid $5 on all these

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*headdesk*

I'm curious. What was the thought process behind these "bids"?

In post 3109, pieguyn wrote:@Esp: yeah but I wanna do something that isn't just instawagoning Voided. that said, why zmuffin over Voided?

@LB: I had thoughts like that about the money, but I couldn't overlook how he differentiated between the normal and red auctions. I was convinced there's no way in hell town could say smth like that because town gets no additional information on the red auctions besides "the mafia have an advantage"

I was pretty vocal about muffin yesterday. I feel that he is buddies with Dr.P. I can't remember what I said exactly, but I was never for the voided wagon over others.

In post 3098, Lost Butterfly wrote:-Claim if you have any of the red abilities.

-Use Wage Freeze immediately if you have it.

-Mhork claims if he's channeling morph.

-Claim what you advertised (I dropped $6 on Bulletproof).

-Everyone claims who they transferred money to last night. Also claim your N2 target if you haven't already, or if you decided to do something creative.

VOTE: KingdomAces

No, n/a, n/a, $10 on FRC, $5 on bulletproof, $100 to one of pie and garuda, and I reconfirm I transferred to Pere N2

It was a tossup between bp and neighborizer among the abilities not yet auctioned, but I figured there would be more than enough funds put toward its advertisement. I think I should've put that $9 to medium or something instead in hindsight, though.

In post 3102, pieguyn wrote:

vote: zmuffin

there's no way in hell thinking Seanald was derptown to the point of not voting him came from a town thought process. he even mentioned smth about the red auctions where town doesn't get any extra info on the red auctions. but he apparently thought he had a good enough chance of being town after all that shit to not vote him. srsly

I kinda get what you're saying, but are you sure it wasn't him showing how it affirmed his derptown read on seanald? That seems like a plausible theory in light of sean's townflip.

In post 3114, Espeonage wrote:
I was pretty vocal about muffin yesterday. I feel that he is buddies with Dr.P. I can't remember what I said exactly, but I was never for the voided wagon over others.

I remember you saying that muffin is scum and you voted him, but you didn't say much else. Please tell me more, if you're that convinced.

LB, I think you're going to have to explain what you liked from me about the end of yesterday before too long.

BB...I really hope you just typod "bid" for "advertise"...

^I was actually in the middle of posting about that:

In post 3075, Voidedmafia wrote:Ffery, do you agree or disagree that Nero and I need to be sorted tomorrow in some way, shape, or form? I'm just beginning to have a sinking feeling that we're all that's going to be talked about.

In post 3069, Voidedmafia wrote:

In post 3066, morph the cat wrote:Seanald's posts overnight make me very cool with his lynch. If I'm alive tomorrow I'll take up the albatross again.

It seems more like Nero and I should be lynched just for the sake of preventing us from being mouthpieces for everyone else to chew on and prevent them from getting anything else done, doesn't it?

That doesn't fill me with much hope.

P-EDIT: In that I have to tell Mag that I'm using it for it to take effect? No, you're not wrong. I actually have a PM ready to send for it.

In post 2877, Voidedmafia wrote:Oh, and for LB since she asked.

In post 2122, Voidedmafia wrote:By the time I wake up and get home from college, we'll only have a day left. I'm fine with being a deadline lynch since I'm the majority--as much as I don't WANT to be--but I would hope that Nero or Seanald gets lynched instead. And I'd prefer to use my Extra Vote before I die so scum can't graverob it off me if they bought it N0.

To the people still scumreading Voided, do any of these posts feel like scum about to be lynched? For one thing, he looks way too . There isn't even any desperation when he suggests Nero or Seanald get lynched instead. Also, he's talking about himself and Nero as distractions who have to be dealt with, which is not a PoV that would come naturally to scum. He seems very accepting of his own demise and eager to help the town (although the paranoia over a weak ability like Extra Vote being Gravedug is silly, it reads like townie paranoia).

In post 3030, Espeonage wrote:I'm not. tbh, I started thinking he was town shortly after morph started going nuts.

Why did you keep your vote on him then?

At which point do you think "morph started going nuts"? I would suggest it happened at about 2938, maybe earlier.

In post 3035, KingdomAces wrote:

In post 3026, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Do you really think he wouldn't make extra sure he had his numbers right if he were scum?

You are the one saying that Seanald's an idiot. Screwing up fake numbers is far easier than screwing up real ones. Not to mention that scumSeanald would have a lot less motivation than townSeanald because of what happened last game.

I was the one calling Seanald an idiot, so [something unrelated]?

In post 3102, pieguyn wrote:

vote: zmuffin

there's no way in hell thinking Seanald was derptown to the point of not voting him came from a town thought process. he even mentioned smth about the red auctions where town doesn't get any extra info on the red auctions. but he apparently thought he had a good enough chance of being town after all that shit to not vote him. srsly

VOTE: pieguy

We start keep a second votecount for who should be vigged in the hypothetical chance a townie got nightkill.

@Voided: Mainly that he was hounding a wagon that was in full swing already, it was as if he wanted the lynch to be closed out asap before it got derailed. And asking deliberately hard to answer question which used against an established wagon is like trying to stuff someone still alive in a casket before people realise you're doing it.

Not to mention he wasn't int he best of positions on wagons so far this game.

@Upside: Because it was too late then. I didn't know if people were going to be back and the timing meant that lynch was at like 8-9am my time, a time at which I would be fast asleep and in no position to change my vote.