Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Yeah he would. He has a streak of anti-town in his play that I kinda dislike and I wouldn't put it past him to do it as town and not retract it. If he got nightkilled, he'd probably just expect everyone to read his role PM to see his true role. At the site where we play, it is the standard for mods to post complete role PMs upon every flip almost without exception.

Pedit: @ Bork (on 5-Off)

[Cutty Shark]

they claimed at daystart today and crumbed pretty convincingly.
I am the one that said the second kill is antitown. We have a claimed conditional vig who has not taken responsibility for any shot

-b

P-edit: that one was skrew

[Majiffy]

Actually it's irrelevant, Nati wouldn't make a 4 groupscum 13P.

Masons can be town.

[Cutty Shark]

Back in an hour or so

-b

[Majiffy]

I am the one that said the second kill is antitown. We have a claimed conditional vig who has not taken responsibility for any shot

So you don't actually have any evidence to state it as fact, while simultaneously calling out the aforementioned claimed conditional vig for doing the same thing.

[Cutty Shark]

...the fuck? we've massclaimed and no one has taken responsibilty or any shot. Am I to believe that's a sign of a protown shot?

-b

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

@F-16: how certain of ND town are you? I find myself the most back and forth on that slot of any slot

-b

Close to 100% sure they are not mafia with Baboon. They were the first vote there and there was no reason for them to bus. Also, if you played with Titus, you'll notice she doesn't bus very often. And Mala's interactions with us and Tammy point strongly away from scum-Mala.

Much less certain about whether they are an SK. Ffery had a theory that they could direct people to do kills so IDK. I do think they've been sticking their neck out a lot. They could be genuinely scumhunting but I think it is tempting for third parties to just go with the flow after a while so IDK. It is frustrating that they are not being very clear about their role either.

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Cutty

Someone had to bus D1 and I don't think it was Anatole.

[Majiffy]

...the fuck? we've massclaimed and no one has taken responsibilty or any shot. Am I to believe that's a sign of a protown shot?

-b

Remember I'm running on limited info here.

[fferyllt]

ffery/f-16 are claimed masons, so factor that into whatever you're doing

-b

Did they claim at daystart today or during D1 or D2 sometime?

Also someone asserted the second (read: not groupscum) kill was confirmed anti-town. How do we know this?

Not at daystart. Stuff happened to me and f-16 last night, and I wanted to be sure it was all claimed and the claims lined up with what we learned before dropping the mason claim into the game.

[Majiffy]

Point is you claimed after the latest batch of nightkills.

But it's irrelevant either way, unlikely Nati put 4 groupscum in a 13P

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

VOTE: Cutty

Someone had to bus D1 and I don't think it was Anatole.

Why don't you think it was Anatole?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Need to head out. Will probably be back this evening.

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Cutty

Someone had to bus D1 and I don't think it was Anatole.

Why don't you think it was Anatole?

Voting patterns with Baboon and Honey are too comfy.

[Cutty Shark]

Remember I'm running on limited info here.

Ok? I'm sorry that your ill-advised accusatory point was made from a position of ignorance?

Your vote on me is, frankly, not what I was expecting from you this game. If I had to give a list of people who were pretty much on the level concerning my meta, you'd probably be in my top 5.

I don't want to even get into the 'someone had to bus' point. That's pretty empirically not true, and something that you and I tend to get into kerfuffles about re: is VCA worth a shit in general.

But in specific, this lazy approach from you so far has gotten you on the wrong target where I feel like even a cursory ISO of my slot could get you off of it. This isn't my scumgame, and it doesn't even vaguely resemble it. This is kind of the past of most resistance for you as scum, and in the past of all the times it's been town-me vs scum-you I don't remember you a single time scumreading me. You usually ignore me or buddy me.

So I'm kinda hoping you're just being lazy

Holla back.

-b

[Cutty Shark]

path of most resistance

ebwop

-b

[fferyllt]

In the most recent game I played with scum majiffy, he "scumread" me all game, but always pushed someone else.

sadly, I did the same with him.

I need to think about some of his other replace-ins, especially town ones. This feels like lazy play to me.

But, I do like the way he went about retracting the 5-off claim.

However, Majiffy missing stuff (like missing that he's the only living intern today and posting in the intern thread), I have seen him (apparently, or pretend to) miss stuff about lynched players in at least one other game where he didn't get active until day 3. He was a hydra in that game.

[fferyllt]

that "however" sentence is about one of his scum games.

[Cutty Shark]

I have seen him give literally zero fucks on replace in as town before. It might be a relic of his older style.

Either way I would generally not expect him to come in and scumread the one person he probably knows is going to immediately get up in his shit for it if he were scum

Posting in the intern thread is probably a null tell for him.

-b

[Majiffy]

Your vote on me is, frankly, not what I was expecting from you this game. If I had to give a list of people who were pretty much on the level concerning my meta, you'd probably be in my top 5.

I'm getting the distinct impression you haven't read a single post I've made.

However, Majiffy missing stuff (like missing that he's the only living intern today and posting in the intern thread)

I replaced in during the night. There was still another person posting in there.

[Majiffy]

Although in retrospect I am a little disappointed my Frasier joke was really only delivered to one person.

[Cutty Shark]

I'm getting the distinct impression you haven't read a single post I've made.

I mean, you voted me, right?

What am I not reading? The fact that you're voting me on VCA which is something I can't defend against so I am using things that are actually useful in determining alignment to show you why you're wrong?

Or what am I missing here

-b

[fferyllt]

Your vote on me is, frankly, not what I was expecting from you this game. If I had to give a list of people who were pretty much on the level concerning my meta, you'd probably be in my top 5.

I'm getting the distinct impression you haven't read a single post I've made.

However, Majiffy missing stuff (like missing that he's the only living intern today and posting in the intern thread)

I replaced in during the night. There was still another person posting in there.

Ok.

I forgot this game exists. Silly nightphases.

Ill check in tomorrow with a proper post.

This looks pretty disingenuous then.

[Majiffy]

I forgot this game exists. Silly nightphases.

Ill check in tomorrow with a proper post.

This looks pretty disingenuous then.

Considering I replaced in several days ago and this just opened today...?

You're dumb.

I'm getting the distinct impression you haven't read a single post I've made.

I mean, you voted me, right?

What am I not reading? The fact that you're voting me on VCA which is something I can't defend against so I am using things that are actually useful in determining alignment to show you why you're wrong?

Or what am I missing here

-b

Except I don't meta, you're coming at me with a self-referential meta argument, and saying LOLNOVCAISBAD with no real basis for the argument.

It just looks bad.

[Cutty Shark]

Subject: Mini 1507: WE THE PURPLE

Talk to me about your Cabd thing - is this still just "Mollie was voting Cabd => Mollie is Dead => Cabd is scum?" Because that's not compelling at this point in the game.

Is to me.

Also you're skirting dangerously close to your scum game. Sup g'. Busy IRL? Post more.

Get the fuck out of here. And also specifically why I brought that up is because I remembered this post in particular.
From you-town to me-scum.

-b