Gerrymandering Shadow Government Democracy Mafia Endgame

[mutantdevle]

God, they really, really like giving us information and hiding it from the rest of town.

I think this should be the tagline for this game.

[mutantdevle]

i low-key want to be prez in lylo and lynch mutant for the lolz

Wow. Weren't you content with a standard betrayal? You wanted to take it a step further? You truly are a monster.

[Myloninja13]

WHAT HAPPENED AHHHH LOL

[Myloninja13]

Okay yeah scum won like just wow lol. Thanks scum for not killing me though lol

but AHHH, I was going to go for Invis more but didn't AHH

[Myloninja13]

Time to read through EVERY single extra thread oh god lol.

[mutantdevle]

I just finished the mafia PT.

Tbh, I'm kinda honoured that you considered killing me N1

[mutantdevle]

I just read all the party PTs.

At least mine was the best :3

[hebichan]

I just finished the mafia PT.

Tbh, I'm kinda honoured that you considered killing me N1

So much of me was just wondering when I was gonna be lynched.

[ofrhz]

Mutant can you check your PMs

[mutantdevle]

also can't believe the day2 lol-3p claim held up all game lol

You guys acted in the scum PT as though it was the shittiest claim ever but it really wasn't. In my opinion, it was clever and believable. Sure, there were some flaws in it. But we were always too distracted by other things to notice them.

I still stand by my policy of helping third party's win though. If Wheme had won earlier, then town would have had more time to adjust. He made us lose out on a lynch when we crucially needed one. Additionally, if NK15 didn't prevent Hebi from tying a second district, we would have found out the claim was a lie.

So basically, we WOULD have lynched Hebi and probably could have lynched Vizzy before mylo if we decided to help the third party claims instead of letting scum get away with a fake claim and allowing Wheme to fuck us up at a crucial time. I also find it likely that Ankamius would have ended up lynched as well, though I do think that Skitter would survive to win the game.

I hope that the rest of the town can learn from this game that helping third parties that aren't inherently against the town is useful (obviously not SKs and game-ending jesters). If you treat them as a threat then they will become a threat. And the best way to test their claim is to let them win.

Though the thing I've learnt from this game is to not trust so easily.

[mutantdevle]

I just heard mutant's heart break from Australia

I'm now deaf because my heartbreak was so bad...

Like, when I saw that this game was over I thought "oh, maybe vizzy was town and Skitter didn't take being a popular candidate for president as a sign that maybe he wasn't scum" but then I saw Skitter lynched wh4t and I was all confused like "nooo Skitter why did you do that!?!?" and then I saw that skitter was scum and the world just ended for me and I started to cry.

I just let the tears roll down my cheek but they wouldn't stop and I was too limp from pain to wipe them away. So now I have tears trickling down my leg.

[mutantdevle]

The masonry could have been a trustworthy and highly relevant political force but mutant fell for a phishing scam

I mean, just imagine. How cool would it have been if skitter actually had this PR and been town. I would have been praised for cleverly thinking of a way to communicate with another townie! But instead, I was the mafia's inside man. I was deceived and lied to and manipulated. I was their puppet, being used every second of the game. I had so many ideas but because I shared them with someone who had placed all my faith in they were always 1 step ahead of me. Predicting and knowing my every move.

[mutantdevle]

They did everything I wish I could do as scum. But sadly, I have not rolled with a scum team that likes to scheme in such a way (or at least lived long enough to).

[mutantdevle]

also jjh thanks for running this, it was a lot of fun

Ditto.


I really look forward to playing games you host in the future because, if they are anything like this, then I'm going to have a lot of fun playing them.

[mutantdevle]

How did people accept it when it got to the endgame and there was no way to tie?

I just assumed that it meant they couldn't win anymore

In hindsight, it should have really pinged me that Hebi tried to pretend that she could still get a tie from the standard voting. Not that figuring that out would have meant anything though.

[mutantdevle]

To be fair people thought this was a 3 scum game

I didn't. I was still sure it was 4 scum. Unfortunately, I had it in my head that this meant I was right about Wheme not being third party rather than figuring out Hebi couldn't be. But like I say, I'm not so sure any realisations at that point in the game would have saved the town. I think only preventing Wheme from becoming president would have.

[mutantdevle]

i was more worried about whether or not aronis would try to become prez

He really should have.

Myself and Aronis were not good Mason partners tbh. Our styles don't fit. All it really served for us was 1 less person whose alignment we had to worry about.

[jjh927]

This is probably one of the most mechanical games I'll ever run

But I am an ideas man and apparently I'm good at achieving my theme goals with setup design.

I'm kinda thinking of doing a jojo's bizarre adventure hydra upick next, but I might just go through another public mechanic theme (just a less complex one that doesn't fuck with voting) because I have a lot of ideas for those stored up

[mutantdevle]

Y'know I want to just town read BB for their claim but I feel like I'm too susceptible to just believing role = town and I don't want to get in the habit.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Omg I just laughed at this for a good 2 minutes.

[mutantdevle]

then they have a four player masonry

how could this possibly go wrong?

Remember that mutant has been thoroughly pocketed and literally claimed masons directly to the mafia when he found out it was skitter doing the survey

I forgot how fun modding this game is when it's not just really drawn out deadlines

my soul is barfing but my body is laughing

Figured I'd quote the post

Okay so I have a plan for tomorrow over a little thing.

First of all, I want to convince ofrhz to leave my party so that it's just myself and skitter.
Next, I will ask Wheme to join my party - possibly taking him up on the offer to endorse him as party leader.
If I do make him the leader, I will still make it known that I'm running for president as well.
I will make it clear that I don't want anyone else joining my party.

That gives us 3 confirmed towns in one private topic.

I can invite you too if you want? So that the 4 of us are there. Outside of us 4, I can't trust anyone else with 100% confidence.

WAHT. HOW DOES A SINGLE SENTENCE OF THAT POST MAKE ANY SENSE?????

tbh i cant see a flaw in that plan

maybe they should invite third party hebi because while shes not town, shes confirmed not scum either

Okay so no joke I was actually really close to also inviting Hebi but I figured that since third party hebi couldn't win anymore they might side with the mafia and reveal the information...

[Myloninja13]

Just finished scum PT lol, on to all the others :O

[the worst]

mutant you're the best

[mutantdevle]

If things had gone differently and I turned out to be town, I'm not actually sure I would've gone with your Mason claim in LyLo

That kind of thing usually pings "SCUM LED FAKE SOLVED SETUP" to me

also town!me woudl have been *incredibly* suspicious of anyone trying to become president in lylo in this setup; it's basically a scumclaim tbh

We both crumbed our roles a few times throughout the game so that if either of us died the other could claim with proof. Also, I think a lot of the wording we used in some of our interactions heavily hints that we know each other to be town. However, I was mostly relying on Skitter's knowledge of my role to help get me elected.

[WhemeStar]

having the entire town believe my stupid ass anarchist fakeclaim was the best feeling ever.

I didn’t believe it!

[Not Known 15]

having the entire town believe my stupid ass anarchist fakeclaim was the best feeling ever.

I didn’t believe it!

You weren't town.

But yeah, neither me nor ausuka believed it.