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In post 3079, midwaybear wrote:

In post 3058, Dunnstral wrote:If this were a normal game, Midwaybear would have been the day 1 lynch, and if he wasn't, he'd be the day 2 lynch

He definitely wouldn't be here taking potshots on day 3

that's true. The chain mechanic is scumsided which is why I don't think scum really can tamper with the quiz.
Managed to avoid being mislynched for 2 days in a row, lets make it 3 today.

@farside stop talking about the bottom two. Instead, we pick someone to lynch and the other person goes in the 3 group

In post 3099, unwnd wrote:Spring stamped her feet in the most unproductive way having some kind of catharsis on what type of team exists thinking that me and farside suddenly now make sense? I just really don't get her rationale right now and I'm concerned she will never explain it at this rate.

In post 3102, unwnd wrote:this is why I explained to midway that I don't think ND/Dunn were chain passing as mates and

In post 3109, unwnd wrote: P-edit: But you guys know each other's alignments? Even without a PT to talk

In post 3101, Dunnstral wrote:Spring I don't get your theory: If unwnd tampered with the quiz night 1, why is he also scum with farside, who was actually on the quiz? Why wouldn't she have just failed it instead of scum using their resources?

In post 3112, springlullaby wrote:sabotage cop makes more than 1-shot scum quiz tampering balanced.

In post 3111, unwnd wrote:I've sat and read your post about three times and I'm still confused about it, so I'm going to stop trying and see what others say.

In post 1681, Raya36 wrote:Read List:

Town:
-beeboy - Not much to say here. Scum doesn't claim NU in post 10 in a game like this where you'd want to try to get put on the quiz team as scum. Wouldn't make any sense. His posting is obvtown too anyway.

-Pink Ball - The reaction test was something from town not scum. Also I read Unwnd as town, if both Unwnd and SirCakez were town then scum!PB would have gotten rid of the claimed PR, not the VT. If PB is scum then that means Unwnd must be scum as well since he wasn't lynched and I find this unlikely since I TR both.

-unwnd - The claim sounds genuine (although could be a scum role but I'm leaning for it being town) and his posting at the end of the game sounds genuine town as well. As was discussed his claim could make sense to be town alongside BeeBoy's role. Trying to keep track of reasons for passing the chain is good too. Also his 1486 is what a townie would say when they are hammered.

-farside22 - Farside comes across as town to me. Mainly it's a gut read but I trust it. Mainly her posting has come across as town and I don't see any agenda from her reads. We have had some similar reads as well. There are a few things she has done like backing of off ABR when he couldnt be lynched instead of tunneling for example that are deserving of light townreads. Her posting comes across as genuine solving. I like her D2 posting and quiz PT posting a lot as well.

-Starbuck - She just comes across as genuine. I don't agree with all her reads but she explains them all and I think she believes them. She seems to be genuine at the start where she talks about the struggle she's having since she hasn't played in a long time. Also she knows almost none of us so that's understandable. Her catch ups seemed good. My main concern with them is that most players can probably agree they skim through long catch ups so it's a good way for scum to say a lot while not saying a lot under the radar. This doesn't seem to be the case with her. She was scumreading SirCakez the whole game. Had Unwnd as low null. I read through and I'm not seeing any agenda here.

-Dunnstral - Scum would likely be quicker to jump on the plan between me and beeboy and him. But he refused. He seemed like he was genuine in trying to understand stuff early game. We had similar reads early game. I think him passing the chain to NDMath to avoid a lynch based on activity comes from town. If they are scumbuddies I don't think he would be so obvious about it. He backed up his reasoning too and I think it comes from town. He said SirCakez seems town and he'd rather go for Unwnd (If unwnd is town he could have been trying to get the PR lynched?)


Null:
-TrueSoulEnergy - I'm really confused by this slot. I find a lot of TSE's reactions to be town frustration but I'm not sure if it's faked as scum. There was quite a bit of spam which I'm wary of since that's an easy way for scum to look busy or get their post count up.

-NDMath - Hard to get a read from 11 posts and I don't have a strong enough read from anything he has said so far. Need to hear more from this. In Switch he posted 28 total before his death which was N2 and page 22 (as town). In Mini Normal 2125 he posted about 50 times from post 500 to post 2000 (as town). So this activity level doesn't seem to be unusual as town. I can't seem to find any scum examples though.

-springlullaby - None of her reads felt opportunistic which is a good sign, she wasn't just saying what everyone else was. It was town oriented to decide the quiz first then pass the chain because that way we could make sure the quiz team wouldnt be lynched and also it helped avoid scum just doing a safe pass to a quiz team member. A scum chain leader probably would have tried to create more chaos and worked a lot less hard trying to avoid that. PB never denied his claim. I think the claim comes from town although unlikely I could see it being scum. There are some points I am concerned with though. All the numbers and stuff a few pages ago can be scum busywork, she seems to be pushing against looking into the quiz for scum because scum could have a role that tampers with it, and my point in 1609


Scum:
-Albert B. Rampage - Quite a bit of spam, didn't really do much at the start of D1, seemed to have no interest although that's an easy way for scum to get out of saying a lot, he seemed rushed about everything (passing the chain early D1, other times for passing the chain, getting a flip and ending the day). I found it strange how his proposed quiz team had BeeBoy. I expect him as town to know that BeeBoy can't be on the team. A lot of our reads or at least suspicions are similar though which means ABR is probably town or I really need to rethink my reads. He doesn't seem to be pushing for mislynches either, he's not really going after highly scumread players at all. I'm not really sure what I think of him honestly. His anger at the start of D2 seems fake.

-midwaybear - 11 seems like an attempt to waste some time/look busy. Most of his reads aren't original, he's jumping on what other people are saying. Nothing is definite, TSE's outburst was weird, in this interaction they //could// both be town, wary of TSE and Unwnd, states many times he's not confident (so he can backtrack easily later), seems overly concerned about being townread, wanted BeeBoy to be 2nd last then later admits to not understanding why everyone is TRing him, "farside, unwnd, tse, starbuck all give me doubts" again nothing definite, when people start to TR TSE he jumps in and says that on a reread TSE seems town. 1465 some shade on BeeBoy when he is highly townread by majority...

In post 3115, Pink Ball wrote:Dunn please, please, please let's lynch spring if that's the case

In post 3120, Dunnstral wrote:IDK why you are appealing to me, I can't do anything here