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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:09 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 3095, Something_Smart wrote:Idk about dsjstr or bugs but I am definitely a weaker scum player than Raven, not that that's really relevant lol
What is your read on Pooky? You had him as one of your top towns D1?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:11 am
by Datisi
In post 3097, skitter30 wrote:Can we review why raven is town pls?
~ g u t ~

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:12 am
by skitter30
In post 3093, Raven Branwen wrote:Do you think we have 3 PRs in this game? I did think that Pooky seemed different in Coalition but both Dats and Aldus disagreed with me. I have no meta on dsjstr at all.

Do you know how much meta Lillith has on SS?
Well we for sure have me
Conceding tw is probably a tpr

We have like two named townies
And also pooky

Two prs + a bunch od named townies feels about right with two goons
If pooky is a legit vig, scum needs to have some kind of pr
They probably dont have an rb given that i wasnt rb'd.

Lilith can read ss reasonably well, i would say. They play with each other a lot, and have a p good sense for each other's games

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:12 am
by skitter30
In post 3093, Raven Branwen wrote:Do you think we have 3 PRs in this game? I did think that Pooky seemed different in Coalition but both Dats and Aldus disagreed with me. I have no meta on dsjstr at all.

Do you know how much meta Lillith has on SS?
Well we for sure have me
Conceding tw is probably a tpr

We have like two named townies
And also pooky

Two prs + a bunch od named townies feels about right with two goons
If pooky is a legit vig, scum needs to have some kind of pr
They probably dont have an rb given that i wasnt rb'd.

Lilith can read ss reasonably well, i would say. They play with each other a lot, and have a p good sense for each other's games

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:14 am
by skitter30
Ahhhhhh sorry

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:15 am
by skitter30
I don't think i can townbin raven rn

Wasnt lilith dsjstr's biggest advocate?
Like it's a weird kill for pooky/dsjstr?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:16 am
by Datisi
who else do they kill if they wanna keep fanning the flames between you/duck?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:17 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 3097, skitter30 wrote:Can we review why raven is town pls?

I'm getting a little wary that she isnt really standing up for her own opinions, but keeps defaulting to - i'll do whatever you guys think is best. Which i find uncharacteristic
I’m torn between my slight townlean on Pooky to thinking then my reads are wrong elsewhere but if both aren’t scim, I can’t figure out where I’m wrong. I prefer djstr > Pooky is that isn’t already clear. I think he seemed different in coalition, so I would prefer to give him the chance to confirm himself.

I also thought that SS’ EoD D1 play looked particularly townie. I honestly don’t know what you would have me do Skitter, my two strongest sr have either been mech confirmed town or mech believable, so no I don’t have strong reads.

So leaving out the mech reads and myself, this is where I’m at currently.

Dats
SS
Pooky
djstr

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:21 am
by Something_Smart
In post 3100, Raven Branwen wrote:What is your read on Pooky? You had him as one of your top towns D1?
Yeah, but he's been all over the place which makes him pretty hard to read. At this point I can concede that he might be so unaccustomed to the current meta that he would be doing stuff as scum that I wouldn't expect to see from scum.

But on the other hand, I can also concede that him not making any sense recently can still be town who just isn't really thinking about what he's saying. Something which town is more likely to do than scum.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:22 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 3105, skitter30 wrote:I don't think i can townbin raven rn

Wasnt lilith dsjstr's biggest advocate?
Like it's a weird kill for pooky/dsjstr?
Do you dispute that Lillith was arguably the most obvtown player at EoD 1, and wasn’t she confirmed vt? I’m not understanding your reasoning here.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:22 am
by Something_Smart
In post 3106, Datisi wrote:who else do they kill if they wanna keep fanning the flames between you/duck?
Me?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:24 am
by skitter30
In post 3106, Datisi wrote:who else do they kill if they wanna keep fanning the flames between you/duck?
Yeah fair i guess
Like i can see how dsjstr/pooky can make sense but it doesnt, like, make the game ~click~ for me, if that makes sense

Like it can be, sure, but it doesnt seem particularly likely, or unlikely, to me

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:24 am
by skitter30
Sorry, i'm aware that i'm flailing a bit rn and now being particularly helpful

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:25 am
by Datisi
i dunno, s_s. you were a fan of hanging either skitter or duck on day two.

s_s, if it were up to you, who do we hang and what the plan going forward?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:29 am
by skitter30
In post 3107, Raven Branwen wrote:think he seemed different in coalition, so I would prefer to give him the chance to confirm himself.
In what way?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:30 am
by Something_Smart
In post 3096, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3091, Something_Smart wrote:It's moot though, Pooky already said they were enomis, a blank vig.
I don’t understand, why is he then claiming not to know?
Because Micc copies the role PM's verbatim from the game in question.

That said, I would be surprised if he did not clarify afterward as he did with the Night 2 Investigatioire in the last Miccro game. So I suppose this is worth a shot.

*takes a deep breath*
Micc, if you were to include a Vigilante role from Micro 941: Brass and Shrapnel, would you choose an individual player slot and then assign that player as either a True or Blank Vigilante depending on what the slot in that game was, or would you randomize it according to the normal generation procedure for Brass & Shrapnel? And, if you did assign it according to the game, would you then clarify to the player that they actually
did
know whether they were blank or not, even though the role PM implied that they did not?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:38 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 3114, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3107, Raven Branwen wrote:think he seemed different in coalition, so I would prefer to give him the chance to confirm himself.
In what way?
He seemed extremely disconnected and disengaged in that. His play on D1 was definitely quite different but he seems kind of deflated now, so less sure. Still not being able to have any read at all on djstr obviously isn’t helping too much.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:39 am
by skitter30
Were you even on coalition?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:40 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 3115, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3096, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3091, Something_Smart wrote:It's moot though, Pooky already said they were enomis, a blank vig.
I don’t understand, why is he then claiming not to know?
Because Micc copies the role PM's verbatim from the game in question.

That said, I would be surprised if he did not clarify afterward as he did with the Night 2 Investigatioire in the last Miccro game. So I suppose this is worth a shot.

*takes a deep breath*
Micc, if you were to include a Vigilante role from Micro 941: Brass and Shrapnel, would you choose an individual player slot and then assign that player as either a True or Blank Vigilante depending on what the slot in that game was, or would you randomize it according to the normal generation procedure for Brass & Shrapnel? And, if you did assign it according to the game, would you then clarify to the player that they actually
did
know whether they were blank or not, even though the role PM implied that they did not?
+1

Great question.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:40 am
by Datisi
funnily enough, seeing pooky's scumplay in coalition is what made/makes me scumread him.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:45 am
by Something_Smart
What was it like?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:45 am
by skitter30
In post 3116, Raven Branwen wrote:He seemed extremely disconnected and disengaged in that.
Like i wouldnt describe his play in that game like that at all

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:45 am
by skitter30
In post 3120, Something_Smart wrote:What was it like?
Competent
Good at faking realistic emotions and progressions
Capable of hard-pushing mislynches

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:46 am
by Something_Smart
That sounds like the exact opposite of what Pooky is like here.

But this being a closed game could provide some of that difference.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:47 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 3117, skitter30 wrote:Were you even on coalition?
No but I skimmed through it briefly in order to try and get a more confident read on Aldus. It didn’t help me do that but I did feel that Pooky was playing differently in that game than he was here. Did you ISO him in that? I think he sounded pretty fake there. Like he could seriously be bluffing and hopefully Micc clarifies for us exactly what his role is but if he knows for certain he’s a blank vig, he needs to claim it but he sounds like he doesn’t know but I only skimmed and Dats and Aldus disagreed, so if Micc clarify SS’ question, it will help us hopefully.