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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:01 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2487, Gypyx wrote:
Jessie : kinda feels too right about things, like, the kind of reasonableness scum would take because they know what the correct option are and stuff if you see what i'm tzlking about
Skitter : mostly gut, a few posts really bugged me but cqn't remember which ones
Hopkirk : really don't like his push on me, and appart from that i'm not seeing the towniness
I could vote, but i don't know if that's the best choice tbh
In post 2489, Gypyx wrote:I'd rather hopkirk if you don't mind but yeah sure jessie is fine
VOTE: teamrocketqueen
In post 2492, Flea The Magician wrote:For me, he's been sincere and honest throughout. Everything from him has felt genuine and he's been open and honest about his reads. there's nothing being hidden or anything
In post 2493, Gypyx wrote:
Ok so, last post before i leave
Like, this by ydrasse feels super weird / fake to me, like, idk, it's very short but followed by pretty long posts and it's very AtE-ish while not really saying much, i can kinda *feel this being re-written a few times like, am I thinking stuff?
VOTE: hopkirk i don't think jessie is a realistic wagon on second thoughts
In post 2496, Morning Tweet wrote:VOTE: Hopkirk
By my count, Gypyx is 2 ahead of Hop. I get the feeling something REALLY strange is happening so allow me to make it interesting
Seriously, wtf happened today? i could only skim but still, it's weird that momentum never gathered anywhere except Gypyx
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:02 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2496, Morning Tweet wrote:VOTE: Hopkirk
By my count, Gypyx is 2 ahead of Hop. I get the feeling something REALLY strange is happening so allow me to make it interesting
Seriously, wtf happened today? i could only skim but still, it's weird that momentum never gathered anywhere except Gypyx
In post 2497, Morning Tweet wrote:It's really odd
Normally i'd vote Gypyx as a sort of policy and be done with it, but i get the sense he actually probably doesn't flip scum
Hop I think technically has higher chances of flipping scum but i'm more interested in why Gypyx was the only one who got real votes today.
In post 2498, Morning Tweet wrote:i usually associate a lot of feelings with the games i play, so it kinda "colours" my memory of the game
This one is like, extremely odd. I just feel lost. It's sort of frustrating, but at the same time it feels like it's just something im not aware of causing it
In post 2499, Morning Tweet wrote:Is it possible that other town knows something I dont? There is probably very few scum if my reads are right, and it would make sense with the way the thread generally feels
But everyone's VT.. -- does that restrict other information being given? is it a total coincidence the only thing Golden did was defend Gypyx and now the only person who gains votes is Gypyx? am I losing my mind here
I dont know, i suppose i would be really surprised if Gypyx is scum that gets a hard towncase from the flipped townie and has everything going for him, then ghosts out of the game completely for some reason. and then he's the only one who amassed a real wagon
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:06 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2504, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:no im just angry he decided to try to push me as soon as i fell asleep a few hours b4 the deadline and i dont really care anymore
In post 2505, Gloria Cleary wrote: In post 2497, Morning Tweet wrote:It's really odd
Normally i'd vote Gypyx as a sort of policy and be done with it, but i get the sense he actually probably doesn't flip scum
Hop I think technically has higher chances of flipping scum but i'm more interested in why Gypyx was the only one who got real votes today.
Can you tell me why?
In post 2506, Gloria Cleary wrote: In post 2504, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:no im just angry he decided to try to push me as soon as i fell asleep a few hours b4 the deadline and i dont really care anymore
You shouldn’t make votes off of being angry, you should base it off of who you think is more likely to flip scum.
In post 2508, Gloria Cleary wrote: In post 2463, Hopkirk wrote:So right now we’re looking at
Hopkirk – Isis, Skitter30, Infinity, Dunn, assuming Gypyx
Gypyz – Gloria, Ydrasse, Hopkirk, Pooky, Jessie
Elsewhere- Morning Tweet, Flea
One of those wagons is a whole lot townier than the other
I’m leaning towards Dunn-scum in the Dunn/Pooky (which feels like a TvS) interactions.
Dunn/Gypyx/(Isis or Skitter or deepwolf) feels like a decent call.
@Pooky did you read this? Where is Hopkirk pushing you?
In post 2509, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:gloria can u put yourself in my shoes for sec? i spend all day defending someone, then fall asleep cuz im butt tired and say so in thread and then as soon as i finally fall asleep the person im defending tries to murder me in my sleep. yea ill probly kill them and not really care what the card flips.
In post 2510, Ydrasse wrote:fuck do i need to switch for deadline or will it go through? i don’t want this wagonnnn
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:09 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2504, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:no im just angry he decided to try to push me as soon as i fell asleep a few hours b4 the deadline and i dont really care anymore
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:09 pm
by Isis
In post 2985, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
why did you do this?
do you know how long I stared at this? Seconds that felt like an eternity.
you're killing me.
Why did you stare at it if you discarded the lolfun part and only want to use dances optimally now?
In post 3016, Infinity 324 wrote:Flea keeps feeling town, and it doesn’t help that isis’s “I think flea is town but it’d be irresponsible not to elim faer” is pretty scummy.
Why is it scummy? I'm agreeing with you that fae feels town. The only way I'm possibly disagreeing with you is about the propriety of leaving a gameflipping hammer unpunished, which is kind of an unexpected disagreement when you say you like wagonomics more than I do. I'm not even sure I disagree with you on that. Do you think you could get into an f3 and vote outside of Flea just because fae "feels" town?
I feel like Pooky's read progression on me doesn't make sense, but Infinity's does, even though it seems Infinity is landing somewhere less correct.
Jessie do you have a scum^ scumV town^ townV conclusion about Flea and Pooky both selfdestructing or is it a think out loud before you reach a conclusion kind of thing?
It's such a common part of Pooky's scumrange (and townrange in fairness) that I don't want to read much into it for him, but for Flea the wifom of lolhammering -> picking to be one of the people to play the game -> selfdestructing seems to have some salience
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:14 pm
by Gloria Cleary
Wow! Hopkirk correctly called out the 4 flipped.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:19 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3104, Isis wrote:Why did you stare at it if you discarded the lolfun part and only want to use dances optimally now?
Because it's hard to kill that part of me completely.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:21 pm
by Gloria Cleary
@Isis, I don’t want to launch someone just for being the “gameflipping hammer”, when it was 8 minutes to deadline and would have needed someone who was on Hopkirk to switch over. If that’s your only reasoning, it’s not a good one. Especially if you think faer town so kind’ve have to agree with Infinty on this being really bad reasoning.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:23 pm
by Gloria Cleary
@Pooky, can you town case yourself for me?
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:24 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
if you look at trust fall and hideyoshi
i dont really do emotional posting as scum, the range is much smaller and faker.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:27 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3109, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if you look at trust fall and hideyoshi
i dont really do emotional posting as scum, the range is much smaller and faker.
You did plenty of emotional posting in Trust Fall. In Death Curse, you were more like, all of you are out of your gourd for thinking I’m scum here.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:28 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 3104, Isis wrote:Why is it scummy? I'm agreeing with you that fae feels town. The only way I'm possibly disagreeing with you is about the propriety of leaving a gameflipping hammer unpunished, which is kind of an unexpected disagreement when you say you like wagonomics more than I do. I'm not even sure I disagree with you on that. Do you think you could get into an f3 and vote outside of Flea just because fae "feels" town?
Yeah I could, and I guess that’s where we disagree. Wagonomics are a tool, I think they’re an important tool, but ultimately I have to listen to my gut. So maybe this is just playstyle. It does feel convenient to me that you get to vote for someone you’ve been townreading all game because it’s “responsible”.
I need to take a break from this game, I’ll check in tomorrow night probably.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:30 pm
by Infinity 324
Gloria and pooky are town I’m pretty sure.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:30 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3104, Isis wrote:
In post 3016, Infinity 324 wrote:Flea keeps feeling town, and it doesn’t help that isis’s “I think flea is town but it’d be irresponsible not to elim faer” is pretty scummy.
Why is it scummy? I'm agreeing with you that fae feels town. The only way I'm possibly disagreeing with you is about the propriety of leaving a gameflipping hammer unpunished, which is kind of an unexpected disagreement when you say you like wagonomics more than I do. I'm not even sure I disagree with you on that. Do you think you could get into an f3 and vote outside of Flea just because fae "feels" town?
Can you explain this further because I don’t understand and don’t want to misinterpret you?
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:35 pm
by Gloria Cleary
He might be but can you explain why you think this?
He does sound genuine and I would really feel bad mislaunching him. I’m just really paranoid.
How are you reading Isis rn? Flea? Ydrasse?
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:39 pm
by Infinity 324
Those three are my PoE right now, and it doesn’t make a ton of sense but nothing really does this game. Pooky’s sorting of flea here feels really genuine though and they are digging flea out of a hole if they’re scum and fae is town.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:43 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 1250, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1131, Hopkirk wrote:(Dunn/Skitter30/Gypyx/Jessie) is the people I don't have good vibes on.
It's also to some extent concerning overlapping with people not approaching the game in a certain way.
TGP isn't really a
townread
but I initially got bad vibes from, there's a couple of things that seem weird from scum, and my POE hates them, so they get townpoints for that.
This is a really good list, except i townread jessie
Gloria and Jessie im strongest on. Infinity is close to them. and below them, hopkirk + Pooky + Isis + Flea i've all gotten townleans on.
leaving ydrasse, golden, skitts, dunn, and gypx. Ydrasse and Golden i have weak reasoning for. The other three i just don't have an opinion on. I think Gypx's behaviour is sort of weird for scum but ive seen scum do it too. Skitts (along with Isis) in their sort of 1v1 i just have been glossing over after initially disagreeing with what i saw. I'm not confident in my ability to read skitts without associative information. Dunn is playing like he did in forest fire and silent star 1.. which unfortunately i took to be as a scumtell in Forest fire and miselimed him (or tried to anyway). i think I know what to watch out for to learn his alignment
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:51 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3115, Infinity 324 wrote:Those three are my PoE right now, and it doesn’t make a ton of sense but nothing really does this game. Pooky’s sorting of flea here feels really genuine though and they are digging flea out of a hole if they’re scum and fae is town.
If it is actually Isis/Ydrasse that would be wild.
So you would I assume like you, me, Pooky and Jessie to be paired, I’m guessing?
Skitter said I don’t know her scumgame but she does distance and no one ever pushed Flea (except for TGP) and Dunn only pushed Pooky as an omgus.
Maybe Pooky/Flea are TvT?
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:56 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3086, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
i have read every answer you have given
if i liked your answers i would stop talking to you
i am trying to get to the point where I like your answers
I am doing this for you because your ate affected me and hopkirk says you are hard townread.
I am literally the only person here trying to dig you out of the hole you dug for yourself.
Maybe Infinty is right. I’m going to re-ISO Flea.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:59 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2720, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:unvote
i dunno
i feel doubts
I like TRQ for town because she feels like she's trying
I like Gloria for town because her paranoia and fears feel real
Infinity town-reading everyone in a game with 6 scum is just too funny if he's actually scum
that leaves me at Ydrasse-Isis-Flea for possible scum.
Ydra feels like she hasn't tried very much, her excitement for day start feels kind of faked? so do her semi-townslippy posts. I could be wrong about this.
Isis:
Isis/Skitter didn't feel like scum-theater, her push on Dunnstral at the end of first part of D1 doesnt feel partnery? I don't like how absence second part of d2 but that could just be because of RL reasons/burnout.
I really can't state how much I've been waiting to dance with her since that time she killed me so brutally in Epilogue. I was beyond excited because this time I actually have a green role PM. I want her to be green too so badly.
Flea:
The hammer is just ick.
This sounds similar to that post he made in Death Curse.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:04 pm
by Isis
In post 3113, Gloria Cleary wrote: In post 3104, Isis wrote:
In post 3016, Infinity 324 wrote:Flea keeps feeling town, and it doesn’t help that isis’s “I think flea is town but it’d be irresponsible not to elim faer” is pretty scummy.
Why is it scummy? I'm agreeing with you that fae feels town. The only way I'm possibly disagreeing with you is about the propriety of leaving a gameflipping hammer unpunished, which is kind of an unexpected disagreement when you say you like wagonomics more than I do. I'm not even sure I disagree with you on that. Do you think you could get into an f3 and vote outside of Flea just because fae "feels" town?
Can you explain this further because I don’t understand and don’t want to misinterpret you?
When I play town I kind of do a mixture of 80% believing in myself and 20% accepting stuff that mathematically should work even though it doesn't speak to my soul. The 20% is composed of lots of things like deadsheeping people with a good read rate even though I don't like the read, voting softgulities, and voting out people that seem townie but have cast votes in scum favor.
I jump over to the 20% a lot more when I lose faith in myself, and the misreads presented by the five flips would be one of those times.
Maybe I should deadsheep Hopkirk though, that was in the list of things.
Maybe that makes you understand better where my mind's been.
Maybe Flea can be truly town locked, it's not impossible. I once town locked someone who faked an innocent on scum, from seeing enough of their soul.
I expected everyone to want to eliminate Flea like Pooky does and intending not to object because I don't feel confident enough to veto a VCA elim right now. If both my townreads don't want to do that, it's a pretty different story.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:11 pm
by Infinity 324
Isis I want to see
your
soul and all you said when I did a 180 on your slot after townreading you the whole game was “the read progression was good”
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:13 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3110, Gloria Cleary wrote:You did plenty of emotional posting in Trust Fall. In Death Curse, you were more like, all of you are out of your gourd for thinking I’m scum here.
I think it would fall more on the side of "buddying/cute" as shelly would describe it.
I don't really fake "anger" or "frustration" very well as scum.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:20 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 1366, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
I love Isis, I love the way she writes, I love playing mafia with her, I was super super super excited to play Hectic's game with her.
That's why I spent like a week begging her to join. I was beyond ecstatic when she finally did.
She replaced out.
The last few posts she made before she replaced out are:
In post 1147, Isis wrote:ok ok i'll ask for a notes PT and draw art of killer teddies to reveal at a certain point in the future.
It fucking eats at the depths of my soul because I don't know why she left and I don't have any time to prove to her that I'm town - because she's gone. Do you get it? She is gone.
I'm not going to get cute pictures of killer teddies. I'm not going to get to catch bad guys and show her I'm actually good this game. She's not here anymore.
It really sucks in ways you don't understand.
So stop trolling me about "soul-reading" her spot.
Can’t believe I actually finally found that in an almost 1500 (approx) post ISO.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:24 pm
by team rocket queen
In post 3104, Isis wrote:Jessie do you have a scum^ scumV town^ townV conclusion about Flea and Pooky both selfdestructing or is it a think out loud before you reach a conclusion kind of thing?
i was thinking outloud
In post 3104, Isis wrote:wifom of lolhammering -> picking to be one of the people to play the game -> selfdestructing seems to have some salience
there is probably something substantial to the wifom of who was chosen to be here and there is probably something to looking at the posts the flipped conspirators made and trying to deconstruct how they were made - like the one of morning tweet's that gloria recently quoted you can see that the last three scumreads were all co-conspirators, and given a different sort of mention to the previous two
still feeling this ^ though, stronger now if anything, like it kinda feels like infinity and pooky are trying to create movement on eachother which is pretty !!!
