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In post 3095, ChaosOmega wrote:Turns out both our naked votes were softing guilties, lol.

yep, and i absolutely ran with "guys i was just covering for chaos i realized he had a guilty i wanted to protect the power roles scum thought i was so good they actually tried to shoot me " all while i was hysterically laughing irl

and considering the fact i was NOT shot again, makes me think chaos town, because surely a team with scum!chaos figures out i was talking out of my ass for the entirety of day 3?

In post 3100, Datisi wrote:

In post 3095, ChaosOmega wrote:Turns out both our naked votes were softing guilties, lol.

yep, and i absolutely ran with "guys i was just covering for chaos i realized he had a guilty i wanted to protect the power roles scum thought i was so good they actually tried to shoot me " all while i was hysterically laughing irl

To be fair I thought you were the one with a guilty and was shading you.

I was literally telling Titus “stop townreading Dat so he doesn’t get shot”

Instead she just protects you and I saw your soft and not hers lol

I was so busy getting scum to kill T3 who was not a PR role it was like doh

More accurately I just thought she was insulting me

In post 3097, Gamma Emerald wrote:so assuming we flip another scum today:
traitor flip = math could be scum, nontraitor flip = math can only be scum traitor and in that case the game would be over
this might make my "create a townbin and vote outside of it" play even more viable?

if next scum flip is any traitor = my result from today means nothing

if next scum flip is a non-neighbour groupscum = my result from today means nothing

if next scum flip is a mafia neighbour = scum was most likely all in a hood together, math is cleared (if game not over)

Datisi, is your claim real?

In post 3104, Datisi wrote:if next scum flip is a mafia neighbour = scum was most likely all in a hood together, math is cleared (if game not over)

i *think* the only way this is not true is if math is a mafia traitor neighbourizer who decided to holster for the whole game, but i kinda don't buy it?

and yes, i'm not gambiting for shits. ask koba what happened last time i did that.

I mean assume all are town and proposed setup.

Rolecop guilty or inno (eventually for that role no matter who)
Gunsmith Informed of setup making scum doctor a forced thing
PT analyst guilty or inno (because of OP)
Loyal JK which is a delayed IC even if never acts

At the end of N1 you have 4 conf townies and 0-2 more, plus possible guilty.

I don’t see how this passes a review

In post 3106, Datisi wrote:

In post 3104, Datisi wrote:if next scum flip is a mafia neighbour = scum was most likely all in a hood together, math is cleared (if game not over)

i *think* the only way this is not true is if math is a mafia traitor neighbourizer who decided to holster for the whole game, but i kinda don't buy it?

and yes, i'm not gambiting for shits. ask koba what happened last time i did that.

And there would need to be 3 people in a PT at the start of the game, so it would have to be a mafia neighbor traitor neighborizer? Just gonna pretend this isn't possible and move on.

Technically if we assume doctor, neighbor, traitor

PT analyst can check any scum
Gunsmith can get a scum and knows to ignore innos
Rolecop anything it gets is a hard check.
If rolecop says X is a doctor then Gunsmith says X is scum because informed

So yeah this doesn’t pass review

neighborized people don't flip as neighbor fyi

In post 3108, ChaosOmega wrote:

In post 3106, Datisi wrote:

In post 3104, Datisi wrote:if next scum flip is a mafia neighbour = scum was most likely all in a hood together, math is cleared (if game not over)

i *think* the only way this is not true is if math is a mafia traitor neighbourizer who decided to holster for the whole game, but i kinda don't buy it?

and yes, i'm not gambiting for shits. ask koba what happened last time i did that.

And there would need to be 3 people in a PT at the start of the game, so it would have to be a mafia neighbor traitor neighborizer? Just gonna pretend this isn't possible and move on.

Not a PT
Behind the scenes chat.

Could be multiple PTs.

I am not scum but this is wrong

what's the difference

In post 3100, Datisi wrote:

In post 3095, ChaosOmega wrote:Turns out both our naked votes were softing guilties, lol.

yep, and i absolutely ran with "guys i was just covering for chaos i realized he had a guilty i wanted to protect the power roles scum thought i was so good they actually tried to shoot me " all while i was hysterically laughing irl

You do realize this gave cover and legitimacy to a possible scum Chaos right?

In post 3091, ChaosOmega wrote:So assuming the setup is Mafia Doc + Mafia Neighbor + Mafia Traitor Neighbor, Datisi gets no useful results after Umlaut dies because they're both in a PT by themselves.

i could kinda see this being a thing, considering there's only one scum you could potentially guilty, and while i can guilty any of them, i effectively lose my pr after umlaut dies. that would make the rolecop the actually strong investigative, and he's odd-night. the jailkeeper cannot help follow the cop.

i can see this being a thing. it's very stupid and townsided but i can see it being a thing.

wondering if we should yeet chaos anyway, bc if he's town then both gamma and koba are conftowned, and titus and i can only be scum together (and don't even try it) so that's 4 townies going into night with 8 alive, which wouldn't be too bad, especially since then odds of it being something like math/n_m increases a lot.

In post 3101, Datisi wrote:and considering the fact i was NOT shot again, makes me think chaos town, because surely a team with scum!chaos figures out i was talking out of my ass for the entirety of day 3?

They could assume sheer luck.

In post 3112, Gamma Emerald wrote:what's the difference

Chaos said 3 people in A PT.

Assuming the setup is as suggested
Could have started mafia doctor + Umlaut in first PT
Umlaut + traitor in second

In post 3113, Titus wrote:

In post 3100, Datisi wrote:

In post 3095, ChaosOmega wrote:Turns out both our naked votes were softing guilties, lol.

yep, and i absolutely ran with "guys i was just covering for chaos i realized he had a guilty i wanted to protect the power roles scum thought i was so good they actually tried to shoot me " all while i was hysterically laughing irl

You do realize this gave cover and legitimacy to a possible scum Chaos right?

yes, and?

atp I think I need to fullclaim in order to ensure the setup spec goes right, I'm really just 2 shot vs. odd night

In post 3114, Datisi wrote:

In post 3091, ChaosOmega wrote:So assuming the setup is Mafia Doc + Mafia Neighbor + Mafia Traitor Neighbor, Datisi gets no useful results after Umlaut dies because they're both in a PT by themselves.

i could kinda see this being a thing, considering there's only one scum you could potentially guilty, and while i can guilty any of them, i effectively lose my pr after umlaut dies. that would make the rolecop the actually strong investigative, and he's odd-night. the jailkeeper cannot help follow the cop.

i can see this being a thing. it's very stupid and townsided but i can see it being a thing.

wondering if we should yeet chaos anyway, bc if he's town then both gamma and koba are conftowned, and titus and i can only be scum together (and don't even try it) so that's 4 townies going into night with 8 alive, which wouldn't be too bad, especially since then odds of it being something like math/n_m increases a lot.

Agreed it’s stupid and townsided and probably unwinnable for scum but if Chaos is town then it’s likely what happened. So yay autowin! Here we come.

In post 3116, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3112, Gamma Emerald wrote:what's the difference

Chaos said 3 people in A PT.

Assuming the setup is as suggested
Could have started mafia doctor + Umlaut in first PT
Umlaut + traitor in second

3 people in a PT does not mean the same one necessarily.

VOTE: Chaos

I think we vote Chaos for the autowin scenario.

If he is town then we lock firm a bunch and if he is scum then we got a scum or traitor so yay!?

In post 3118, Gamma Emerald wrote:atp I think I need to fullclaim in order to ensure the setup spec goes right, I'm really just 2 shot vs. odd night

Why did you holster night 2?

How is voting me autowin again?

In post 3121, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: Chaos

I think we vote Chaos for the autowin scenario.

If he is town then we lock firm a bunch and if he is scum then we got a scum or traitor so yay!?

idk if that's what we should do, I'm trying to run the associative math
but I think atp I'm conftown via 2 others having to have fudged something in order for me to be scum?