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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:06 am
by animorpherv1
As a Graves main, I disagree largely. Graves and Lucian do a lotof the same things - which is why, in the LCS, if Lucian is picked, they'll pick Graves instead.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:20 am
by MrZepher
i've heard from three lcs ad carries (DL, Wildturtle and Sneaky) that the top 3 ads are graves, corki and twitch
and this was all within this last week and a half (for the allstars patch).
i'm more inclined to listen to people who play that role for a living than a bunch of random people on some mafia forum thread.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:41 am
by xRECKONERx
LCS people think those carries are better at LCS levels of play.
Nobody here is even remotely close to LCS levels of play, so what is "good" and "synergetic" at these levels is gonna be way, way, way different.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:59 am
by Ser Arthur Dayne
In post 31049, MrZepher wrote:
Except they're currently picked more often for doing what lucian does.
Graves is now often picked as a counter to lucian.
I can sit here and talk about why but history dictates that the only people who are smart enough to pay attention already know.
Lmao are you making stats on the spot?
Lucian - 26.61% pick rate, 51.19% winrate
Graves - 9.25% pick rate, 49.79% winrate
Corki - 2.45% pick rate, 49.85% winrate
Lucian most popular champion right now in challenger:
http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=na ... challenger
Lucian 2nd most popular champion in diamond:
http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=na ... ue=diamond
I can sit here and talk about how to read statistics but history dictates that the only people who are smart enough to pay attention already know.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:00 am
by Ser Arthur Dayne
In post 31052, xRECKONERx wrote:LCS people think those carries are better at LCS levels of play.
Nobody here is even remotely close to LCS levels of play, so what is "good" and "synergetic" at these levels is gonna be way, way, way different.
The sad thing is, even
in
LCS, Lucian was a ban/pick champion towards the end.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:43 am
by DeathNote
I can't adc without first getting a better computer. It will never happen.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:10 pm
by Saki
In post 31049, MrZepher wrote:
Except they're currently picked more often for doing what lucian does.
Graves is now often picked as a counter to lucian.
I can sit here and talk about why but history dictates that the only people who are smart enough to pay attention already know.
k so Lucian has the strongest early game damage
idk how another early game champion with less damage counters him
there really isn't a single adc that can duel lucian and win unless you count on a Quinn landing her blind
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 3:57 pm
by PJ.
I have high success with both Corki and my girl Jinx against Lucian. I like Cait against him as well if I'm looking to draw the lane. MF is supposed to be really strong right now too, and she probably handles Luc.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:01 pm
by BROseidon
This is what the ADC tier list right now look alike:
S-tier:
Twitch
A-Tier:
Lucian
Graves
Corki
MF
Cait
Jinx
B-Tier:
Vayne
Tristana
Sivir
Please don't pick this tier:
Everything else.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:11 pm
by PJ.
lol, looks like an awful tierlist that doesn't include 2 of 3 highest win rate adcs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:12 pm
by Papa Zito
What changed about Twitch to make him so strong?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:13 pm
by quadz08
What changed about MF to make her not-shit anymore?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:13 pm
by PJ.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:14 pm
by PJ.
Read the patch notes 2 or 3 patchs ago, too much to say..
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/g ... ssfortune2
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:26 pm
by quadz08
Huh. Must have missed that somehow. Neat!
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:37 pm
by BROseidon
In post 31059, PJ. wrote:lol, looks like an awful tierlist that doesn't include 2 of 3 highest win rate adcs.
lolwat.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:37 pm
by BROseidon
Also, Riot giving an AP ratio to double up makes the MF/Sona lane stronger.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:38 pm
by BROseidon
Oh shit I forgot Varus.
He should be B-tier.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 5:04 pm
by Papa Zito
He's always been sneaky sneaky tho
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 5:18 pm
by PJ.
but now he says it, it's OP.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 5:34 pm
by Iecerint
I never understood what made Sivir fall out of the meta in the latter part of the S4 split. Her balance wasn't touched during that time. Corki, Graves, and MF were buffed, I guess.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 5:45 pm
by Iecerint
Ooh, nice; this hadn't occurred to me. ^^~
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 7:01 pm
by animorpherv1
BRO, no Draven? I get he has a high skillcap, but a good Draven is really good at punishing enemies for their mistakes - and this is soloq, that happens A LOT.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 7:28 pm
by PJ.
so are we all just taking turns putting champs in arbitrary order that doesn't actually represent how strong they are? Like who's gonna roll the random.org generator next and decide who the best champ is?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 7:34 pm
by animorpherv1
I wanna see yours too, then
If you want, I can put my reasons beside every champ.