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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:58 am
by Titus
Negging?

PJ is making no sense. Elle lynch makes no sense. Hmmm.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:03 am
by Cephrir
In post 3084, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
In post 3081, Cephrir wrote:Well that was unnecessarily hostile.

You confused Ninja with Strongman, your brilliance.
why did you jump to this conclusion?
I thought he said he blocked Naut? Did I make that up?

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:03 am
by Cephrir
SD wrote:And I didn't claim to use the trackyesterday, I used Snare/Block. Naut didn't do any killing or anything at all just like last night quadz didn't go anywhere.
No, no I did not make that up.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:05 am
by quadz08
In post 3117, Titus wrote:It is not theory. I am trying to see the reasons behind PJ's vote. PJ is voting elle because Elle voted Thor. I see nothing wrong with that voting. Why so defensive?
Ah, didn't see that was PJ's reason for voting Elle. Retracted.
In post 3118, ooba wrote:
In post 3109, PrideandJoy wrote:well if he roleblocked Quadz N2, then w/e no point voting for Quadz. If N3, then yes, lynch Quadz. simple stuff
Quadz, nothing on this?
What's there to say? We don't know what SafetyDance actually meant, and I'm not particularly concerned about him possibly claiming to have roleblocked me. I'll freak out about it when people start voting me for it. *shrug*

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:16 am
by PrideandJoy
In post 3125, Titus wrote:Negging?

PJ is making no sense. Elle lynch makes no sense. Hmmm.
aka benmage needlessly being oppositional.

pretty sure I made sense. if I didn't explain how I didn't

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:01 am
by Benmage
In post 3129, PrideandJoy wrote:
In post 3125, Titus wrote:Negging?

PJ is making no sense. Elle lynch makes no sense. Hmmm.
aka benmage needlessly being oppositional.

pretty sure I made sense. if I didn't explain how I didn't
In post 3122, PrideandJoy wrote:your right I'm pretty sure achieveing a mislynch was good enough for the scum voting him
That ^ didn't make sense as a response to:
In post 3121, Benmage wrote:
In post 3120, PrideandJoy wrote:(the notion of lynching people based off a miller claim I find repulsive)
Good thing noone here did that.
Do you want to tell me next that 1+1 = 2?


How was I oppositional?

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:06 am
by Titus
Looking solely at day 1VCA, ooba and safetydance need scrutiny. Their wagons were above 10 according to the vcs the mod posted. There was no counterwagon on Amrun, which suggests it was heavily scum pushed. On day three my slot was wagoned with Spyrex and spyrex was scum. That suggests scum was pushing my wagon.

Now, let's see if anyone fits the profile I have drawn up. Pushing amrun, pushing me and pushing thor.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:33 am
by elleheathen
Yikes, forgot about this. :? I need to reread but before I do...

@Alfred, Naut, Tammy, Cephrir
& anyone else that can read her well...

Is Tierce town?

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:01 am
by Alfred Borden
In post 3131, Titus wrote:Looking solely at day 1VCA, ooba and safetydance need scrutiny. Their wagons were above 10 according to the vcs the mod posted. There was no counterwagon on Amrun, which suggests it was heavily scum pushed. On day three my slot was wagoned with Spyrex and spyrex was scum. That suggests scum was pushing my wagon.
I'll wait 'til you're done before saying anything else but are you suggesting there was no scum on the SpyreX wagon? What do you think the Alchemist wagon from the end of the last Day phase?
In post 3132, elleheathen wrote:Is Tierce town?
Yes.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:06 am
by Shadoweh
In post 3132, elleheathen wrote:Yikes, forgot about this. :? I need to reread but before I do...
@Alfred, Naut, Tammy, Cephrir
& anyone else that can read her well...
Is Tierce town?
Better question, are you scum? Some people seem to think so :V

idc if we lynch quadz or not because I'm a flaming terrorist.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:08 am
by Titus
No. Obviously not. I haven't finished reading. I was just looking at the VCA from a neutral perspective. If someone was always taking the wrong position, it suggests scum to me. That's all VCA is a suggestion.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:24 am
by Katsuki
Come to think of it

Why is chesskiddra still alive? That shit needs to go

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:38 am
by Cephrir
In post 3132, elleheathen wrote:Yikes, forgot about this. :? I need to reread but before I do...

@Alfred, Naut, Tammy, Cephrir
& anyone else that can read her well...

Is Tierce town?
I probably should not be included in this group but as far as I can tell yes

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:17 pm
by The Alchemist
Tierce is town.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:23 pm
by Benmage
In post 3136, Katsuki wrote:Come to think of it

Why is chesskiddra still alive? That shit needs to go
Agreeing with katsuki.... when worlds collide :nerd:

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:27 pm
by elleheathen
In post 3137, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3132, elleheathen wrote:Yikes, forgot about this. :? I need to reread but before I do...

@Alfred, Naut, Tammy, Cephrir
& anyone else that can read her well...

Is Tierce town?
I probably should not be included in this group but as far as I can tell yes
Nope, you have been included for a reason. <3

Still waiting on Naut/Tammy before I reveal why I'm asking. :)

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:42 pm
by Titus
Elle, are you trying to hint or not hint at something?

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:39 pm
by Cephrir
In post 2215, Benmage wrote:
vote kkb
WK
This is the first post containing a vote after the initial SpyreX wagon. Therefore, it is the first step to the derailing of said wagon in favor of the Zdenek/AGar wagons. And of all things it's for white knighting SpyreX. I'm not saying anything about this really, vote documenting the derailing.
In post 2220, PrideandJoy wrote:Tammy
Shadoweh
AGar
Benmage
elleheathen
kanyeknowsbest
Messiah Complex
ooba
SpyreX
quadz08

scum are in here ^.

But it feels gross to vote SpyreX.

So I will

VOTE: Elleheathen
Here's another alternative wagon, and with a lame excuse not to vote SpyreX to boot! "I think the guy everyone is voting for is scum but nyeh so I'm gonna do something to actively derail the wagon"? Yuck.
In post 2228, Goat on a Raft wrote:The Spyrex vote is pretty great and we're-a let you finish but Agar made one of the scummiest moves onto the Amrun quickwagon of all time. OF ALL TIME!

{...}

VOTE: AGar
Here's yet another alternative!
In post 2233, Benmage wrote:I can dig agar scum.

unvote vote Agar
Let me go ahead and make this a real bandwagon even though I literally just voted someone else. Try a little harder to stop this please. At this point I would characterize the initial SpyreX push as completely dead.
In post 2237, Garruk Relentless wrote:I liked the Agar vote more. The lolhammer I can justify as a lolhammer, but putting her to L-1 like that is just complete bullshit.

VOTE: Agar
But on the off chance it wasn't, here's a really poorly reasoned wagon hop. Like actually, read this post and cringe with me as you near the end of it.
In post 2253, Goat on a Raft wrote:
In post 2250, Benmage wrote:Why did you wait to use this ability?
We decided that we would wait in order to avoid giving scum a reason to nightkill us early on, given that the ability could be pretty useful and we're pretty keen on being alive (for this head at least, it would suck if we died before the numbers thinned out a bit). If one of us had been around late Yesterday like we'd meant to/before a lynch happened, it's possible we'd have decided to break it out then. On the other hand, we might have waited longer if we had had more scumflips before Today.

Having not been online when the Amrun lynch happened, we came into Today with fresh deathrage towards both Agar and Spyrex. The urge to whip it out became overwhelming. We're out, we're proud, we have two votes. LOCK 'N' LOAD.
Augh! I still can't talk about this!
In post 2304, PrideandJoy wrote:here that moved me.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ooba
This immediately follows a big post about ooba from shadoweh (accompanied by a vote). The picture I'm trying to paint here is that we have some players who appear to be really aggressively hunting for alternative wagons without actively defending Spyre (as kanye did). Primarily P&J and Benmage.
In post 2350, PrideandJoy wrote:im willing to vote cephrir

(chesskid)
Case in fucking point.
In post 2911, Garruk Relentless wrote:
Unvote


I need to sleep+think. These claims change things.
This follows my fake hammer. Those claims really did not change things (I assume claims plural means Alchemist and Spyre). I guess Alchemist's might have a little but Garruk was voting Spyre so that is not incredibly relevant. Spyre claimed a weak protective role. Why on earth should we care about that claim? It shouldn't affect anything, if you want to unvote then just unvote. Note that this post assumes, at least to my reading, that Spyre is aware he has not been hammered.

On an unrelated note, I am having trouble shaking my early townread on elle, even though a few things have made me uneasy. Someone convince me, I guess?

Update on my suspects:
Alchemist: We're not lynching this until Tierce does her thing but I still want it to die.
Messiah: I have very mixed feelings about their interactions with Spyre. I guess this is a good thing for them.
Garruk: Looks worse than before, see body of post.
Goat: Using their double vote on Spyre I actually liked, but they do remove it before too long. Not much change here in light of the new information.
Titus: See Messiah, I suppose, but less so. Hopefully having just played with town Titus will help me out here.
P&J: Welcome!

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:50 pm
by Tierce
elleheathen: wait until SafetyDance clarifies what he did each Night, please.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:12 pm
by Tammy
:?

Bordempire - how strongly do you feel about a town prideandjoy read? Remember in wingate the way peacebringer went after generic when he and Mara were fighting and generic was saying that Mara was scum? Will you look back at that and then look at how he went after kk when kk was going after prideandjoy? Am I smoking crack here because it felt oddly similar,

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:33 pm
by Tammy
Oh Nacho remind me to talk to you about Garruk when I get a chance to look back at something.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:35 pm
by Garruk Relentless
Why wait for nacho? I'm right here. :)

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:37 pm
by Tammy
It has to do with your claim; I've been writing you off as town mostly due to your claim and the timing of it. I want to look back at something though, and that involves time I just don't have right now. But, I don't want to forget to see if it's anything at all.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:38 pm
by Garruk Relentless
As you wish.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:41 pm
by Tammy
Westley, is that you?!?