Yeah. I had more to say, but I decided that Elyse should go look for herself, and just didn't remove that from my post. I don't need to argue or try and convince her. She can go look and see what she thinks about what Espeonage said when he cleared me. I know that I'm town, that I was gifted a RB, that I used it on you and that we went from 2 kills to no kill. I can do the math.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:35 pm
by Drixx
↑Elyse wrote:The only issue with that is if the scumteam is Shiro/Drixx/Espeonage, they could have won by killing someone last night.
So that's actually not the case because no one else has claimed something that could explain stopping the kill besides Drixx.
Exactly.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:36 pm
by pisskop
Thats fine. Too many scum in the pot.
Piggy gave you an RB. So youd be scum with him if anyone. And then have to be able to return innos.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:39 pm
by Drixx
The only possible scum team that could include me would be Pignash/Espeonage/Me.
You're the one trying to posit a scum team that would have withheld the kill last night instead of just winning. I mean ... 'nuff said I think.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:44 pm
by pisskop
Im not the one saying theres 3 scum and not naming a third.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:45 pm
by pisskop
Im pretty sure Ive stated its most likely an SK or 2 scum.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:48 pm
by Drixx
By the way ... nothing we've seen flip nor any explanations explain Shiro supposedly being roleblocked over and over again, right? It's plausible that Shiro is the scum we're looking for ... except then why was there no kill last night?
If you posit intentionally withheld to frame whomever I chose to RB, then this should be easy. We lynch Shiro today for what appears to be a fake claim, and if Shiro flips town we should lynch you tomorrow.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:51 pm
by pisskop
Did I say you tried to frame me? can you not put words in my mouth?
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:51 pm
by pisskop
I asked about you and Im satisfied you cant be scum because itd require a 3man team, and I see no reason for that to exist.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:52 pm
by pisskop
The lynch pool should be Fire, me, shiro, espeonage, and possibly piggy if theres reason to expect that scum can be an inventor.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:54 pm
by Drixx
↑pisskop wrote:Did I say you tried to frame me? can you not put words in my mouth?
Please read again. I'm saying that if scum intentionally withheld in order to frame whomever I role blocked, then the play today is to lynch Shiro who has made a claim and then never produced anything from it. We've seen most of the game flip and we have no explanation for why. Given what we've seen flip, does it make sense to posit a straight roleblocker who has just camped on Shiro all game?
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:54 pm
by pisskop
btw, shiro's suprise at Elye's claim makes me wonder if ely has claimed IC before her massclaim post.
Elsye are you mod confirmable?
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:55 pm
by pisskop
↑Drixx wrote:Given what we've seen flip, does it make sense to posit a straight roleblocker who has just camped on Shiro all game?
Thats possible I guess. How does a roleblocker balance with the other team?
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:56 pm
by pisskop
SK roleblocker? Is that a thing?
Ive seen aescetic sks, but idk about <active power> sks. I had a double voter sk in my large.
↑Drixx wrote:Given what we've seen flip, does it make sense to posit a straight roleblocker who has just camped on Shiro all game?
Thats possible I guess. How does a roleblocker balance with the other team?
What we've seen was Goon, Goon, JOAT (Jail, RB, Doctor). I'm not sure that balances.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:08 pm
by Shiro
Ok I will post another question.
If I am scum, who are my buddies? And why would I claim to have no result instead of framing a town player to win ?
Nosferaty was rb and jk so after his death I could have come out and said guilty on some townie, Why didn't I? Heck who can even be my partner ? It makes no sesne.
Stop thinking on paranoia filled "why the cop is still alive with no results" because that is exactly what they are trying to do.
Look at pure facts, we didn't have a kill yesterday and we have someone claimed to ahve blocked someone else.
There is no reason for scum to no kill gambit this late in the game, and tbh I explained why it is best to lynch pisskop.
He is the only lynch that is not an instant lose if we get it wrong, if not a 3 man scum team then yea my lynch wont be game over but if it is pisskop has to be scum, there is no way around it.
Pisskop and fire are scum waiting for elyse to vote me so one of pig/esponage hammers(most likely espeonage tbh, pig has no reason to give the rb to drixx as scum which makes me think the scum teams are both 3 p with 2 goons and a joat) and wins. That is my bet
vote:pisskop
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:24 pm
by Drixx
So one team was 2 goons and a JOAT and the other team was 2 goons and a JOAT but you've been blocked all game long?
Don't get me wrong: I still think the most likely case is Pisskop was the killer and I blocked him. It wasn't random that I chose Pisskop. His claim is a very good fake claim to get to end game with, and Titus has been slowly winning me over to looking at Vote Counts and analyzing. I chose him because I viewed him as both the most likely candidate if we had a 3rd party killer, and I viewed him as the most likely player to be chosen by a scum team for the kill, if he was part of a team; primarily due to his claim.
My only real concern is that today is possibly MYLO. It's only LYLO if Pisskop is part of a 3 person team and I stopped the kill that would otherwise have won the game. So there's that.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:25 pm
by Shiro
Why would I lie about being blocked and not just throw a guilty out on somoene. I know it is weird but it is truly what happened.
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:47 am
by Shiro
↑pisskop wrote:Im a little unsettled by the avatar tbh.
Btw this comment made me see the previous picture in a bad light. Some things can now not be unseen gdi Dx
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:12 am
by Elyse
↑Shiro wrote:Why would I lie about being blocked and not just throw a guilty out on somoene. I know it is weird but it is truly what happened.
This is what keeps throwing me, your insistence of a 3 person scum team.
