In post 3084, RCEnigma wrote:I didn't imply you wanted to Lynch RR, but if you don't then why are we still talking about Toog. Does it suck that he was forced to flip? Yes. Did I want him to flip today? Without a case predicated on Clemencys self vote...maybe. but that wasn't strong enough for me to want to flip him today.
Is it better that he flipped himself early rather than let town Duke it out on who's right or wrong, waste a large portion of the day, and miss out on hunting the ACTUAL scum connections? Imo yes.
No, him
hammering
actual scum, would have been the best thing for town, because then he’d be confirmed and still alive and we’d have lynched scum.
In post 3095, profii wrote:2. CheekyTeeky calling my theory on this awkward - It comes over weird that you would discredit the idea of multiball if you were town
Lmfao I'm not discrediting multiball I'm discrediting you spewing that there are multiple groupscum. You are TMIing and now you're panicking. Both Gamma and Profii have omgused me when pushed on their spews.
Missed this
I find it laughable you think that was a multiball spew when it would be better argued as a singleball spew
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:18 am
by BuJaber
Creature wrote:"all competition" is definitely multiball
This is the only part of the flavor in the flip that I feel is definitive and can be taken seriously.
Okay I think I was wrong on Fortian.. I don't think he's doing these big posts just for show. I need more time to sort RR though.. there's this sort of nonchalant lack of care tone in his posting this game I don't know what to make of. As someone who hasn't seen his scumgame I feel at a disadvantage but I also tend to believe that people say the truth as either alignment when they are talking about their self-meta. Or at least what they think is the truth. Just that scum may omit some things or exaggerate
@tails - yes profii's phrasing was awkward. It's not the mention of multiple scum teams that was a potential scumslip. It's his reference to !otherscum that sounded like he was scum.
In post 2979, Reasonably Rational wrote:I would appreciate succinctly phrased justifications for Gamma and Nero, preferably from the progenitors of the wagons.
I looked at Gamma, there are a couple of 'little' associations to Chickadee (like he says 'ew' to FL calling out Chick declaring her inactivity upfront - chainsawy ish) it's minor but it's there sort of thing.
So then, coming into this day, there seems to be a fair bit of momentum on Gamma and it also seems to have polarised opinions - obviously momentum is generated by people saying lets do it, some people have distinctly said nope and others, such as yourself have said hang on lets case it properly.
So I hadn't really considered gamma and felt I needed to look into it to decide myself what I thought...
I found the minor Chickadee links, which means he could potentially be a team mate - great this can be a scum lynch
People are piling on -
great this means other people are seeing Chick links to justify their scum read, but given the momentum, the !other-scum team are probably in there, so this might help us find them
Plus I give you a town cookie for coming in with a 'hang on guys' kinda perspective
so lots of info to be gleaned right now I think.
@profii/tails - the bolded is what gave me scum-hunting-scum vibes
In post 3095, profii wrote:1. CheekyTeeky pushing gamma.
2. CheekyTeeky calling my theory on this awkward
1. How does pushing gamma make me scum?
2. I called your whole post + tone awkward - your "theory" I called a scumslip. No idea how this makes me scum.
Though this post makes me think cheeky wasn't seeing what I saw and he had a problem with the whole argument.
In post 3095, profii wrote:2. CheekyTeeky calling my theory on this awkward - It comes over weird that you would discredit the idea of multiball if you were town
Lmfao I'm not discrediting multiball I'm discrediting you spewing that there are multiple groupscum. You are TMIing and now you're panicking. Both Gamma and Profii have omgused me when pushed on their spews.
Missed this
I find it laughable you think that was a multiball spew when it would be better argued as a singleball spew
I just re-read what Cheeky said now Gamma re-quoted it.
to be clear, I think there is at least 2 scum teams AND at least 1 SK but probably more as "professional killers" was plural in the flip.
I am assuming by multiball Cheeky means 1 scum team and 1 SK would be multiball.
I assume multiple group scum is cheekys way of saying 2 scum teams - I don't know why this is such an outlandish suggestion given the PM flip.
Also there were a number of people who pointed out the 'other scum team' would be racing on the Clemency wagon. Now whilst this could just be people reading the flip properly, it can also be scum who are aware their team is too small for a 26p game. Hadn't thought of that before actually, might go look at who they were properly
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:31 am
by profii
I am using !otherscum because it will be easier to talk about !scum and !otherscum clearly. It'll be a trend that takes off - promise!
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:39 am
by Creature
When the other scumteam flips, we'll refer them as apples and oranges
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:47 am
by Tails
I'll laugh if one of the flips is orange.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:49 am
by RCEnigma
In post 3132, profii wrote:I am using !otherscum because it will be easier to talk about !scum and !otherscum clearly. It'll be a trend that takes off - promise!
If you help me out with Varsooning in place of death tunneling then I'll back you up with !otherscum.
In post 3132, profii wrote:I am using !otherscum because it will be easier to talk about !scum and !otherscum clearly. It'll be a trend that takes off - promise!
If you help me out with Varsooning in place of death tunneling then I'll back you up with !otherscum.
I've no objection to a varsoon lynch.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:52 am
by RCEnigma
No no, not lynching Varsoon (even though I'm warming up to it) just use Varsooning instead of tunneling in future games.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:07 am
by profii
ohh
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:32 am
by Nero Cain
I mean, the thing is that there's no way that scum me doesn't see the writing on the wall and hard bus Clem for the town cred. There is no way that my pushers believe that I sat there and said to Clem "hey man, randomly scum read me. No one will be suspicious of that."
Like its super super convenient that I call chick town, change my tune when Clem scums it up, Clem calls me scummy and Pint is there to point out the "distancing".
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:16 am
by Nero Cain
In post 3004, Tails wrote:Last time I saw something like this, that person was scum. But more to the point, if Majiffy had some sort of tell that gave him an accurate scumread of Chick, and he knew that, why didn't he vote the guaranteed scum instead of avoiding the wagon?
Why did he have to vote one scum read over the other?
In post 3012, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm not opposed to a Nero lynch fwiw so either is fine I guess.
Didn't you just argue that I'm not scum w/Gamma? If so depending on whether or not you think its MB or not, I'm at least 50% cleared. Why does town that believes that ever lynch me here?
Also, there's more than 3 scum in a 26 player, who else ya got?
In post 3037, DrewVa wrote:It was like, I would somehow be lockscum, if he flipped town.
hey, you said it not me.
In post 3044, DrewVa wrote:after Tails’ comment about not liking his appeal to me, I’m starting to wonder if Nero was actually manipulating me or not.
Sounds like Tails is doing the manipulating, not me.
In post 3073, Tails wrote:@Drew: Nero doesn't need you to protect him. That he's acting otherwise is suspect.
She just said I got mislynched w/o her. What makes you think I DON'T need one of the few people that seems to understand a town Nero? Especcially in a game with a large # of scum that are going to try to lynch me. I need her now more than ever.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:18 am
by Nero Cain
@ Nancy
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:25 am
by Nero Cain
The thing that I hate about Toog is that I wish he let it go on a bit longer and maybe get a big wagon on him. Prob a ton of scum woulda hopped on.
In post 3132, profii wrote:I am using !otherscum because it will be easier to talk about !scum and !otherscum clearly. It'll be a trend that takes off - promise!
If you help me out with Varsooning in place of death tunneling then I'll back you up with !otherscum.
In post 3138, RCEnigma wrote:No no, not lynching Varsoon (even though I'm warming up to it) just use Varsooning instead of tunneling in future games.
Wait are you using 'Varsooning' to be synonymous with 'Tunneling'?
'cus if you are, fuck you
I have a handful of reads that I am SURE of and I'm going to stick on them until they are lynched or until evidence proves them innocent otherwise. That's not tunneling, it's playing the game
Lynch DGB here, though, dude's lynch helps town no matter what.
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