@vax you can go to and quote from the grand idea thread. What your role is.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:35 am
by Bell
Could use some commentary by the people that are actually town on their thoughts besides mine
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:51 pm
by NDMath
In post 3110, Bell wrote:1. I don't see why everyone is lying about being town when there are only 3 town present at most. :3. Yet we have 5 town claims so far.
2. Yes, they are likely lying about their claim. Why is lying about their claim in end game multiball scummy?
3. Sure. Maybe. I dunno, I'm not partners with them. I'm town.
4. How do probabilities work here? Based on Magnus flip. There are 3 probabilities right? Random, insane, Paranoid. 3 non-town's in a row might make random slightly less likely and paranoid slightly more likely but each possible variety of bloodhound is equally likely on the initial roll right? Since temporallich said alignment was not guranteed by each role.
Though, that doesn't really seem true given that there was more town than any other faction. So maybe more clarity is needed?
It occurs to me that there must be at least one survivor who hasn't claimed yet. So I just realized there are a minimum of 3 factions left.
5. What about how Temp lich modded his previous game leads you to your conclusions here? Is it that Pooky and I are guranteed town because even though temporallich denied that alignment wasn't connected to the initial alignment rolls they actually were? Or what else?
8. It sure is. It's also wrong I realized. Because the first guy that was eliminated had to have mooched off a survivor and that survivor turned out not to be Korina.
Given the available kills and some guess work.
4 Not town.
Min 1 survivor.
1. I am confused by what you're trying to say here.
2. Lying about their claim is scummy, end of sentence.
4. First fallacy was you had said either insane or paranoid and only those. Second fallacy was that you gave them equal starting probability. Third fallacy was that you ignored the fact that paranoid works with more role rands than insane does by holding onto the starting probabilities.
5. Temporal has not modified alignment before unless a role tells him to do so. (And pooky+you are not guaranteed town from it but highly likely)
8. {Insert sarcastic statement about why you believe that surv guy's claim.}
In post 3126, Bell wrote:Could use some commentary by the people that are actually town on their thoughts besides mine
This may be a sign your current definition of actually town is wrong. (Or I'm completely misunderstanding what you're saying.)
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:13 pm
by Bell
1. It was a joke. <3. Since at least 5 people are lying.
2. Okay.
4. Ah, I missed the completely random one. I excluded the rest because they were excluded due to magnus's flip and the results as accounted for by Unwnd and sure. I did not estimate which of these 3 were most likely.
5. I see that is good to know.
6. We have a flip and a discussion on Hayker's role and how he would be DOA if there was not a survivor. So there is a survivor barring the unexpected.
Nah, I'm just messing with people.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:35 am
by Vaxkiller
Forgot about this. I'll look for it this afternoon.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:38 am
by Vaxkiller
That was actually easier than than I thought it would be:
Town Five Nights Paranoid Gun Owner Compulsive Motion Detector
, aligned with the
Town
.
Abilities:
• From gamestart to the end of Night 5, you will attempt to kill any players that visit you.
• From Night 1 to Night 5, you
must
detect motion around a player. You will detect motion around a player if they target someone or are targeted by someone (excluding this action). If your action fails, you will receive No Result.
Win Condition:
•
You win when there are no longer any threats to the
Town
, and at least one
Townie
is still alive.
Please confirm this Role PM by replying with your role and alignment.
Night 5 has begun! Please send in your night actions within (expired on 2021-03-19 00:50:00).
Abilities:
• Each night, you may choose a player. Investigations into that player's role will return results as though they were a Werewolf. (Note that this does not necessarily imply that there are any Werewolves in the game.)
Factional Abilities:
• You are a member of the Mafia,
[redacted]
. Your Private Topic is here:
[redacted]
• Each night, one member of the Mafia may perform the Mafia factional nightkill.
Win Condition:
•
You win when all the threats to the
Mafia
are gone and at least one
Mafioso
is still alive, or when nothing can prevent this from occurring.
Please confirm your Role PM by replying with your role and alignment, or by posting in the Mafia PT.
PookyTheMagicalBear has died during the night. They were a
I can't tell if this is fake or not. So I won't line it up to an anti-associative as they would know what pooky's ability did otherwise.
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:02 am
by NDMath
We know that there is a twilight extender because the twilights have been extended three days.
We know the twilight extender is scum because everyone has claimed but no one has claimed twilight extender.
We know Bell is not the twilight extender because he is the townie counter.
We know I am not the twilight extender because my role created a neighborhood.
Therefore, each of nono and vax know the other to be a scum twilight extender.
And From my POV because I know Bell is not mafia, and I'm not mafia, yet vax claims to win when all mafia are dead, nono either led the elim on a teammate, korina (which is very unlikely), or vax is lying about their role.
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:03 am
by NDMath
Basically I think vax is a scum twilight extender, and not sure who the other scum is.
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:35 am
by Vaxkiller
If we fade someone, that puts us at 1v1 tomorrow doesn't it? Would we lose?
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:38 am
by Vaxkiller
Also, im not the twilight extender, and ALSO we dont know for sure the twilight extender isnt town.
I don't like NDmaths assumptions here.
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:44 am
by Vaxkiller
Correct me if im wrong, but I think the only way to win this is if we no fade and the scum teams shoot each other?
I'm assuming there are 2 scum teams remaining in the 2 other ppl who arent town, otherwise we would have had a 2v2 situation... in which scum wins I think?
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:26 am
by Vaxkiller
Hello?
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:08 am
by NDMath
In post 3145, Vaxkiller wrote:and ALSO we dont know for sure the twilight extender isnt town.
I don't understand why a Town twilight extender would lie about their claim? Maybe I'm not seeing something?
In post 3146, Vaxkiller wrote:Correct me if im wrong, but I think the only way to win this is if we no fade and the scum teams shoot each other?
I'm assuming there are 2 scum teams remaining in the 2 other ppl who arent town, otherwise we would have had a 2v2 situation... in which scum wins I think?
Yeah this should be correct.
Trying to decide how much sense discussing a lot makes.
The more discussion the more likely the scum figure out eachother, but also the more likely one scum realizes they can't win and frustration/venge shoots a townie on us.
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:27 pm
by Bell
To my knowledge there is a survivor who should not be able to shoot.