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[LegoLucy]

i mean lik i know strong players get to rol scum and openwlf sometimes but why didn't i get to opnwolf in like masons and mafia?? lifes nufair

[Something_Smart]

Pooky I feel like you're missing the point of a fakeclaim. Scum don't only fakeclaim when they know for absolute sure that their claim can never be disproved. They do it to buy time and gain information.

I agree with you that if Day is a scum roleblocker, they probably don't claim this. But I don't see why they couldn't claim it as a goon; roleblocker is a relatively rare town role, so it's not like the odds of being counterclaimed are huge.

[Luca Blight]

I'm fine with giving Day a chance to block the kill

but only if we elim Norwee instead

I don't think there's any decent alternative at this stage

[LegoLucy]

I am p good at fakeclaiming lol

i dont think this is it.

POOOOOOOOOOOOKY
ME TOOOOOOOO
CAN I SHOW










PLS
PLS POOKY
PLS <3

[LegoLucy]

PLS SAY YES

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and yea i know the odds are shit for a town roleblocker getting a block off in the first 2 nights.

its exactly

1 - (10/11)(8/9) = ~21%

if he has 2 accurate townreads it goes up to ~24%.

But the odds a town roleblocker gets any blocks off if we elim him right now is exactly 0% and thats worse in my estimation.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

PLS SAY YES

uh sure

is this going to be bad :<

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky I feel like you're missing the point of a fakeclaim. Scum don't only fakeclaim when they know for absolute sure that their claim can never be disproved. They do it to buy time and gain information.

I agree with you that if Day is a scum roleblocker, they probably don't claim this. But I don't see why they couldn't claim it as a goon; roleblocker is a relatively rare town role, so it's not like the odds of being counterclaimed are huge.

you're good at mech dude

why do people put disloyal roleblockers in the game?

[LegoLucy]

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index ... #msg822383

[Something_Smart]

why do people put disloyal roleblockers in the game?

Well, for mostly the same reason they put town roleblockers in. It's a targeted kill-preventing role that gets stronger as more scum get killed. The difference between disloyal and regular is that disloyal is less likely to interfere with other town power but also less likely to be confirmable.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index ... #msg822383

i didnt make it thru the first sentence without laughing
:3

[skitter30]

Lol
And drunk isis is prob town isis tbh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why do people put disloyal roleblockers in the game?

Well, for mostly the same reason they put town roleblockers in. It's a targeted kill-preventing role that gets stronger as more scum get killed. The difference between disloyal and regular is that disloyal is less likely to interfere with other town power but also less likely to be confirmable.

nah think about why the disloyal modifier would be there if this is a true-claim

then think about whether pushing him makes sense in that context

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Lol
And drunk isis is prob town isis tbh

-.-

she was literally drunk when she was scum with you the last time the three of us played together

[Something_Smart]

Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

[LegoLucy]

I'm fine with giving Day a chance to block the kill

but only if we elim Norwee instead

I don't think there's any decent alternative at this stage

Luca I think norwee is townsish in ways you are missing

like
not to an extent that he might not be scum at the end of the game
but to the extent that he should be the 2nd or 3rd scum yhuou pick off
cause a lot of your reads this game have been good and i feel lieke you are playing the game well this game (and i hav you locktown)
but as a felow townie you feel like, an octave differetnt, than me on each of norwee's posts, and then like yuo were able to reconsider when he was an entire octave aobve baseline but like
just give him a lil time, i'm not sayng he's offlimits all game
ipromsise to draw red crayhon shapes on him if you are nked


peditsssssssss
the lukers sections and also the "trs" that deserve parannoia are good other territory for now
imo
idk like fif you really get bakck to 99.8% lets kil norwee and skitter is s\till unviable i doubt im doing somehting diferent this game? thered need to be a scummyh altnerativ e thts not here now
but oike at like 85% with the bump on your con\fidence being real i ahve had twice as many bumps on my confidene and im tryuing to wrk with you and i tink {ali, SS, Chara, PP{{ and even re evals of {{mena, farkan, dayu}} aqr emore rich hist game

[skitter30]

Lol
And drunk isis is prob town isis tbh

-.-

she was literally drunk when she was scum with you the last time the three of us played together

Fair, but not this incoherently/without inhibitions-ly iirc

[LegoLucy]

Lol
And drunk isis is prob town isis tbh

i 100% do not trust tell nly drunk post as town as that woud be gross and like i would be unhappy about listmodding

if you wanna like read all my drunkposting as scum drunkposting as town history and get that conclusion that's fine tho

i drunkposted as scum in purgatory (the second raqther than the first i think) and masons and mafia

my town drunkposting is naturally more plentiful in sourcing maqybe others can help you

im town this game but i do not want to win on "chose to post after imbibing" like thats bad mafia etc but if the wy i wrote my post is ul ike thats fine

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

what type of swing are you trying to remove from setup balance when you add disloyal into the roleblocker role?

have you read NRG? They don't add random modifiers for fun onto roles.

what does disloyal say about the rest of the TPRs in this game if this is a trueclaim and what are you doing when you push hectic if he is town here.

[LegoLucy]

did i drink in ss3? idk

[skitter30]

Lol
And drunk isis is prob town isis tbh

i 100% do not trust tell nly drunk post as town as that woud be gross and like i would be unhappy about listmodding

if you wanna like read all my drunkposting as scum drunkposting as town history and get that conclusion that's fine tho

i drunkposted as scum in purgatory (the second raqther than the first i think) and masons and mafia

my town drunkposting is naturally more plentiful in sourcing maqybe others can help you

im town this game but i do not want to win on "chose to post after imbibing" like thats bad mafia etc but if the wy i wrote my post is ul ike thats fine

Sorry, to clarify i dont mean in like a trust tell sort of way
I mean in like a: you're posting in a way that looks more like town-drunk than scum-drunk imo

[Luca Blight]

Norwee's early game was terrible.

He redeemed himself a little with his Menalque push and made some decent posts

but he hasn't evolved from that and it really feels as though he's pushing an agenda trying to get Skitter/Menalque limmed.

Look at it this way - if Menalque and Skitter are Town, how do you think scum would approach this? They surely realize that they need to get that Menalque lim minimum, and Norwee and Day both feel like they're playing hard for this.

I'll go into more detail later

[LegoLucy]

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index ... #msg822383

i didnt make it thru the first sentence without laughing
:3

I WON THAT GAME

my partner was 3rd party and i convince everyone i was role that was good at investigating 3rd party and scums, and there was still mafia alive, so we limmed for mafia. no one realized it was multiball we were 3p zombies 2gether
the role was super made up

[LegoLucy]

tbh luca probably more of my disagreement is with the premis 'if mena and sktter are town" rather than how youre' getting to the consequences

this town feels really small fr like -anyone- to be town after you say "x and y are locktown" !?!?!

[Something_Smart]

Isis do you have any idea what Pooky is talking about?

It feels like he's got an idea and he thinks it's a lot more obvious than it is.

First of all, NRG members don't design the setup, they just help balance it-- and sometimes mods do just add random modifiers because they feel like it. If the setup does contain a disloyal roleblocker, it was probably IV's idea, and not the reviewers'. And second of all, the most likely reason to make a roleblocker disloyal is probably to keep it from interfering with other town PR's, so all that it would tell us is that there are probably town PR's that can be blocked.