Mini 2247: Mountain Dew Mafia (Game Over)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13072605

This post is the motivation I was trying to explain when I said I scumread Dunn for the code red claim. I feel validated to see it was actually written here.

I get I was kind of confusing with my logic on why. I kind of lacked the words to explain the logic.

[Something_Smart]

Subject: Mini 2247: Mountain Dew Mafia - Mafia PT

we're planning to claim 1 shot loyal neighborizer just saying

Lmao Noraa don't think I don't see you stealing my plays

[fferyllt]

This was a fun game to spectate! GG all!

[skitter30]

Subject: Mini 2247: Mountain Dew Mafia - Mafia PT

yeah that can work
i'm p sure critter is a protective

we're multitasking i believe as well

Oh hey as a followup to the convo in the dead pt, it does look like i even called out thay we were multitasking lol

[skitter30]

Lld u did good :)

Fwiw i think i said this elsewhere but i think if anybody else was ic the game would have been very different, ans i'm reasonably confident we dont get flipped day1

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Doing a quick scan through, I think I can definitively put the headstone on the grave of my great-scheming-weirdo days. I cannot make heads or tails of my early day 1 play, but I remember being In The Zone with a dozen plots going. That is dangerous: dropping one sneaky bastard plot as town is cause for concern, dropping all of them at once creates broad spectrum noise for people to try and parse the game through.

This probably marks the last game where I try at that. I’m going to try to put together a new way to play instead.

(This isn’t a skill or accuracy or good vs bad thing, btw. I could have been 0% accurate all game long and still ended up feeling like the playstyle had legs. I feel I did pretty well despite floundering desperately, but the floundering is a bad sign for the playstyle, so I’m putting it to rest.)

[Gamma Emerald]

I am very sad because seeing your early play was honestly a delight

[Gamma Emerald]

Subject: Mini 2247: Mountain Dew Mafia (Spectator/Dead)

At least two players have a perfect solve in their notes PTs, by the by!

does my targeting both remaining scum for my ability count?

[Cabd]

I was counting you yes.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m not gonna ask what “thirsty town” means rn but I wanna know postgame

gonna release my PT soon (with v likely no redactions) but posting this from it now

[Cabd]

I’m not gonna ask what “thirsty town” means rn but I wanna know postgame

gonna release my PT soon (with v likely no redactions) but posting this from it now

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Thirsty

In this case, extremely driven and lusting over something.

[Gamma Emerald]

I kinda thought it might be like that.

[StrangeMatter]

Going to take this as a lesson of what not to do in a Mafia game I guess.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I am very sad because seeing your early play was honestly a delight

It might have looked cool but it ended up derailing on me hard, and I never got it back. And even in hindsight the after-effects of losing it appear to have manifested as a big drop in some of town’s momentum, I don’t want to do that again.

I’ll probably still do a lot of plotting, but probably no more than one plot at a time and definitely without the smugness. I’ll have to find a new writing style to distinguish my play with if I lose the smugness, but that was always a good idea anyway.

[Gamma Emerald]

ngl I thought you had been a user here for 10+ years but I just looked and saw your join date was last year
pls teach me how you manage to carry yourself with such confidence, I wish to learn

[MUSHSHAGANA]

My secret is that I am always prepared to eat shit.

No, for real. Like, if you just accept that there is a chance you’ll take one step and smash your face directly into the ground, there’s no reason NOT to go all in. What’s the worst that can happen, oh, you’ll cartoon-slip on a banana peel in public? Who cares. Prepare for it, count on it if you have to. Write up a speech for when you inevitably fail in the most obvious way possible, and then another speech about how you wrote a speech for failing in the obvious way but you had to go and fail some other fucking way so now you can’t use it.

It seems backwards but it really is the key for me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Subject: Mini 2247: Mountain Dew Mafia - Neighborhood of Flavor

3) gamma was annoying.

so what's the deal w this

[Something_Smart]

My secret is that I am always prepared to eat shit.

No, for real. Like, if you just accept that there is a chance you’ll take one step and smash your face directly into the ground, there’s no reason NOT to go all in. What’s the worst that can happen, oh, you’ll cartoon-slip on a banana peel in public? Who cares. Prepare for it, count on it if you have to. Write up a speech for when you inevitably fail in the most obvious way possible, and then another speech about how you wrote a speech for failing in the obvious way but you had to go and fail some other fucking way so now you can’t use it.

It seems backwards but it really is the key for me.

Word of warning, I am not sure that this kind of style is right for everyone. It is a team game so if you do something dumb and cause your team to lose they will rightly be mad at you.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Oh, absolutely. I intended that as a direct answer to the question: if you want to know how I project confidence, that's it right there.

I should have pointed out the downsides though, yeah. I guess I was thinking, like, the requirement of being fully willing to fail catastrophically is hopefully enough to prevent people from taking risks of that sort under most circumstances, I'd hope? You have to be fully prepared to eat shit in the worst possible outcome of any action you take, so taking actions that are very high risk (or where the risk is maybe low but the worst possible outcome is absolutely horrifying) means you need to be prepared to wear that egg on your face... even I'm not that gutsy most of the time, and when I am I prepare beforehand to fully own the fallout.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm mostly trying to improve my charisma because I feel like I'm making progress but it's slow as shit

[Noraa]

Subject: Mini 2247: Mountain Dew Mafia - Mafia PT

we're planning to claim 1 shot loyal neighborizer just saying

Lmao Noraa don't think I don't see you stealing my plays

i did not read literally any of that game

[Noraa]

Subject: Mini 2247: Mountain Dew Mafia - Neighborhood of Flavor

3) gamma was annoying.

so what's the deal w this

Had to have reasons since we weren't actually cop.

[borkjerfkin]

Going to take this as a lesson of what not to do in a Mafia game I guess.

Honestly the fact that you got elimed was more a testament to some strong believable bussing early from the team and late tonal moves from noraa that kinda sold me the other way on them than anything you did wrong other than really kinda never get into a rhythm with the game, which as you pointed out, sometimes just happens.

I meant what i said in 919

I don't have any huge issues w/ StrangeMatter's content right now, really, other than there isn't a ton of it, but signal/noise ratio is pretty high.

[borkjerfkin]

I'm mostly trying to improve my charisma because I feel like I'm making progress but it's slow as shit

you were super easy to read and subsequently work with this game

[borkjerfkin]

also wisdom this might be the only game i can remember ever where we were aligned and like didn't clash at all except over reads which was a nice experience!