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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:30 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 3149, MortFeld wrote: In post 3146, ArcAngel9 wrote:
Are you blind? otherwise you're clearly not reading the game. I targeted Nero as requested by the town. Now please stop derping.
Arc, you never confirmed this and two nights ago you jailed rb which was clearly against what the town wanted.
Are you even serious. What do you call this?
In post 2981, ArcAngel9 wrote:
Just kidding. Its Nero.
Why do you want no lynch. there is no reason scum would want me to be alive unless ........ My mind is a;ldjflaskjflksqj;jerl;kjflask;jfk;asjkf
Chaos - Who did you target last night? You should have result right?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:08 am
by ChaosOmega
Well I for one am super excited to see what Arc has to say. So excited, I'm gonna
V/LA until Monday
.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:09 am
by ChaosOmega
VOTE: Nero Cain
If you guys want to get this off the ground while I'm not here, that's cool too.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:38 am
by Shadow_step
Was told to jail RK
In post 2562, Shadow_step wrote:In post 2558, Shadow_step wrote:
Nero is getting the bullet.
RK is getting jailed.
One of Naomi/luv is getting copped.
Jails rb
In post 2601, ArcAngel9 wrote:I jail kept "RB"
I somehow thought that he is our last scum. So this confirms that He is Town.
Asked to Jail Nero
Then has the audacity to say this
In post 3146, ArcAngel9 wrote:In post 3097, Shadow_step wrote:
Okay so I'm going to be straight with you. This is what I want in your next post Arc.
1. Who you targeted last night.
Are you blind? otherwise you're clearly not reading the game. I targeted Nero as requested by the town. Now please stop derping.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:39 am
by Naomi-Tan
Yeah we are just waiting to see Arcs target if red choose to no kill last night to frame nero.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:40 am
by Shadow_step
ARC JAIL LUV TONIGHT, GOT IT?
VOTE: NC
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:46 am
by Naomi-Tan
Okay L-1 who wants to hammer.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:49 am
by ArcAngel9
Alright. Here are my thoughts...
I understand that you are all angry that i made you wait but i didn't want to end the day before i share my point of view. I could have finished this before my vacation but i was caught up with my work and didn't really had a chance. With that said, Sorry for keeping you all wait but thanks anyway.
With 8 alive it is 1:7 for scum. So I can pretty much say that it is impossible for scum to win. However, we should be careful and definitely more cautious with day lynches because I believe that last night strategy of no night kill from scum is probably to frame Nero.
Scum realized that if they use their night actions, they will likely get caught so I won't be surprised if they won't make a kill on night 4 as well.
No-lynch is something i preferred on Day 3, because I didn't want to mislynch a townie for no reason and we had an odd night cop who could give us information but Chaos result surprised me. Mort is one last person in the group who may not be get lynched. and it is really making me doubt Chaos again and this time harder than ever.
So forget about the No-lynch. We should lynch Chaos today. And I really need all of you think through this. There are so many reasons why I think Chaos is scum and done making cases over him again and again and confirming MORT made me think him more scum than town.
I dont believe that jailing will help us anymore as scum decided to play hide and seek with us. He will not make a kill and he rather want us to lynch to week and then poor and take his chances to survive till lylo. Giving the number of VI's in this group, i vision a derp hammer and easy scum win if scum manages to survive till lylo.
I know that some of you don't even listen to my opinions. In case if we are not lynching chaos today. I choice is to jail-keep him. Since already scum is fool playing us, this wont make any major difference.
Confirm town list :
Arc is confirmed town (Town Jail Keeper)
RB is confirmed town ( I Jailed him)
Mort is confirmed town (Chaos confirmed him)
Nero is probably town (Since Scum knows who we are jail keeping, They wanted us to believe that Nero is scum)
Chaos is leaning Scum
Naomi, Shadow & Liz alignments are unknown atm.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:51 am
by ArcAngel9
Nero probably not scum. I want to hear Mort thoughts.
Mort - Please speak up.
I don't mind mislynching a townie if that helps all of you see the scum for all of us. If nero flips town, Can we all agree that Chaos is scum?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:52 am
by Shadow_step
In post 3033, Shadow_step wrote:Chaos cannot be scum.
There is no way town only have a 1 shot big and JK as town PRs against a scum team which has a 1 shot strongman which can counter the JK.
1 shot vig if it kills a townie it loses us an ML.
Basically game is horribly scum sided of Chaos isn't actually a cop.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:53 am
by Shadow_step
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:54 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 3153, Shadow_step wrote:Was told to jail RK
In post 2562, Shadow_step wrote:In post 2558, Shadow_step wrote:
Nero is getting the bullet.
RK is getting jailed.
One of Naomi/luv is getting copped.
Jails rb
In post 2601, ArcAngel9 wrote:I jail kept "RB"
I somehow thought that he is our last scum. So this confirms that He is Town.
Asked to Jail Nero
Then has the audacity to say this
In post 3146, ArcAngel9 wrote:In post 3097, Shadow_step wrote:
Okay so I'm going to be straight with you. This is what I want in your next post Arc.
1. Who you targeted last night.
Are you blind? otherwise you're clearly not reading the game. I targeted Nero as requested by the town. Now please stop derping.
I hope you understand what you're doing. You are comparing two different night posts. I already explained myself why i chose RB over RK. And the results over my choice of actions are not different if i had chosen RK on my night 1. RK would have lived and RB would have lynched in his place.
So what is your point? please stop making derp posts.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:55 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 3159, Shadow_step wrote: In post 3033, Shadow_step wrote:Chaos cannot be scum.
There is no way town only have a 1 shot big and JK as town PRs against a scum team which has a 1 shot strongman which can counter the JK.
1 shot vig if it kills a townie it loses us an ML.
Basically game is horribly scum sided of Chaos isn't actually a cop.
Did Chaos explain why he chose MORT to investigate last night over others?
If you really want me to believe you, please get answers to my questions. Dont rub your assumptions over my face.
and STOP increasing text size.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:55 am
by Shadow_step
You are the derp, not me.
When we ask you to jail someone you jail someone else and on the next night you say that I jailed the one who you asked me to, are you fucking kidding me?
I was just confirming.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:56 am
by ArcAngel9
Big no.
If you want me to do what you want. then get me some answers from Chaos.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:57 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 3151, ChaosOmega wrote:
Well I for one am super excited to see what Arc has to say. So excited, I'm gonna
V/LA until Monday
.
Don't you always run away when you see i am going to point fingers at you?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:58 am
by Shadow_step
Cause he was paranoid about Mort, does it really fucking matter as long as he chose someone unconfirmed?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:13 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 3166, Shadow_step wrote:
Cause he was paranoid about Mort, does it really fucking matter as long as he chose someone unconfirmed?
So he clearly didn't chose what was told him by town. Why isn't anyone asking him why he didn't target Luv or any other. the motive behind targeting Mort doesn't seem town to me.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:14 am
by Shadow_step
What part of he cannot be scum because then the setup would be terribly scum sided do you not understand?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:12 am
by Naomi-Tan
Ignore her. Arguing with her isn't worth it.. trust me.. I know from yesterday where we miss-lynched -_-
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:14 am
by Naomi-Tan
We have her night action. lets just do the thing so we can get on with this -_-
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:17 am
by Naomi-Tan
Shadow is right though. given the roles It would be very red leaning without both power roles being green.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:26 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 3163, Shadow_step wrote:You are the derp, not me.
When we ask you to jail someone you jail someone else and on the next night you say that I jailed the one who you asked me to
, are you fucking kidding me?
I was just confirming.
Prove this. please.
Night 1 I jailed Toto - that helped to catch the SCUM
Night 2 I was asked to Jail RK but I jailed RB and I didn't lie about this. And this confirmed that RB is town. Either ways the result would be the same.
Night 3 I was asked to Jail Nero and I jailed Nero.
So prove it that i faked who I jailed? You guys are truly derp and total newbies.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:37 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 3168, Shadow_step wrote:What part of he cannot be scum because then the setup would be terribly scum sided do you not understand?
Here is the setup that doesn't look so bad to me.
1 Town Jail Keeper
1 Shot Town VIG
8 VT's
2 Mafia Goon
1 shot Mafia Strongman
1 shot Mafia Strongman is the counter for 2 shot Town VIG. I have run setups something very similar.
Look, I am not ruling out the possibility that Chaos could be the Odd night Cop. If he is really the cop and aligned to town, he played a very bad game so far. His day 1 play was horrible, his claim timing and the way he has done was bad. His night 1 result on TOTO was obvious throw that scum can easily pull off and odd not claim to escape day 2 results adds another layer to the suspicion, and finally the night 3 result on MORT is more shocking than ever to believe that he is farming all of this. I could be wrong too, this whole thing is just a coincidence and a hypothetical situation that making Chaos look like scum to me but we can't rule out the possibility because this is an epic scum play and definitely a good strategy from scum if they want to win the game because If i am scum, I would do everything what i said here. I would easily throw my scum mate under bus to prove my COP claim, I would lurk and claim bad to prove that i am innocent to survive.
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:37 am
by ChaosOmega
In post 3157, ArcAngel9 wrote:Nero is probably town (Since Scum knows who we are jail keeping, They wanted us to believe that Nero is scum)
Chaos is leaning Scum
Holy shit you are so bad at this game.
If I'm the last scum, that means town's only power was a 1-shot vig (which is almost negative utility, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna try to explain that concept to you) and a jailkeeper. There are newbie setups where town gets more power. There is absolutely no fucking way that was passed for balance. I should know!