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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:51 am
by Lil Uzi Vert
Will catch up tonight.

Where are you now Klick?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:51 am
by Luca Blight
The following sequence is scummy as hell from both of the slots in question. The plan here is clearly to sacrifice A50 to Lynch the Mailman and then bus him D3.

In post 1677, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: iconeum

Dude was on every wagon that reached L-1.

Dude claimed cop when he didn't have to. Some say scum wouldn't claim dop d1. Well I say scum also wouldn't be on every L-1 wagon unless he's just that aggressive... He could be.

Alisae's last read was a luca/Icon scum team.

He used his action on the player most likely to be killed if town.

If icon is still alive next day phase he will automatically be my lynch. I'm not gonna risk scum skating by on a fake claim to a victory like that. That's on town if scum win by, fake claiming cop d1.
In post 1678, Almost50 wrote:OK..

VOTE: Icon

If you're right you are doing me a BIG favour bringing me into the spirit of the game.
If you're wrong I get to say "I told you so". It's fun for me either way, and I've got no better option really.
In post 1680, Tchill13 wrote:Haha. Looks like I'm the only one here OK with assuming responsibility.

Or playing at all for that matter.

You can easily replace out if you feel the game is over already or don't intend to play in lylo.
In post 1681, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1679, Almost50 wrote:I belive that is L-1 too. Any quick hammer is a scum claim
Somebody quick hammer. I'll hard tr you in lylo.
In post 1683, Tchill13 wrote:I'll tell you rn if icon flips town and you're still on the board A50 your primary suspect number one

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:52 am
by gobbledygook
Ok. Now I see what you're saying. So does this mean that you think both Tchill and I are scum?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:52 am
by gobbledygook
Like it just is weird that you both are now crossvoting, but the fact that no hammer has fallen makes me think it is where we should vote today

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:53 am
by gobbledygook
I just hate the fact that I am now stuck in this situation because I had a strong town read on Tchill and a townread on you Luca. But this means I was wrong about one of them.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:03 am
by Tchill13
It is not possible for town to only have 1 PR. A setup with 2 mafia goons still had town stronger than 1 PR.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:10 am
by Luca Blight
You’re clutching at straws.

One example proves nothing, especially given the Town Pr in this game is a stronger one.

The newbie games, whether you like it or not, prove that you can have a balanced normal game with one Town PR. Icon’s Pr is similar to that of a cop, if not an even stronger version; and the example I provided had one cop and two goons.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:15 am
by Tchill13
I'm pointing to an example of scum st their weakest in the actual que we're playing in, you're pointing at mandated setups in a que that's setup so ppl can specifically learn how to play the game. (I didn't know it was mandated)

If you ask me both are weak, but mine is stronger given its where we're actually playing.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:17 am
by Tchill13
Where did I bus gobble? Since that was the plan.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:23 am
by Luca Blight
The plan changed when I agreed to Klick’s mass-claim idea, which meant you reluctantly had to follow suit. Lynching Icon was subsequently out of bounds.

And A50’s replace out obviously changed things as you went from having a partner who couldn’t be arsed to play and was allowing himself to be lynched, to a partner who was willing to play the game and gambit upon entering.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:30 am
by Tchill13
Ah the plan changed, convenient.

I'd say one could argue that I'd dislike gobble as a partner just as much. He CC'd his own slot then comes up with a unique mechanic nobody liked. Pretty much all he's done this game. What's to like about that more so than A50? At least with A50 I have a partner ik is OK with me bussing. I'd have no clue how gobble felt about that.

Looooving the fact you drop entire conversation pieces when I win that argument btw. It's very enjoyable.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:32 am
by Tchill13
In post 1545, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1534, Klick wrote:In order to assume Icon is town you have to have a scumteam that chooses to kill Alisae over a claimed Cop. The options for that are slim, methinks.
Yeah but sometimes scum get scared that a protective is on the only claim d1. So of course Ali is the next option.

Hell it might be a good idea to mass claim atm considering the predicament icon has caused.
Doesn't look like I was against mass claim.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:34 am
by Tchill13
In post 1714, Tchill13 wrote:UNVOTE:

OK I'm down for mass claim. Klick is making sense.

@icon. Idc if you're VLA or not. You made a fucking terrible, anti town, selfish egotistical play just because Alisae was in the game.

Luca is never gonna stop pushing me. That's fine.

I'm just locking in icon/Luca/klick as town for the rest of this day phase.

Idc if I'm wrong anymore. That fear is the only thing keeping me from locking you 3 anyways.

I've never went back and forth in a single game on 2 slots like I have Luca and icon but my gut tells me they're town.

My head tells me they're extremely frustrating and I hope they're scum but that's almost never the case here.

Town are always more frustrating than scum.

I'd like A50 then LUV to be the first 2 claims.
Well I did have one post stating I didn't want to put the protective but I ultimately agreed to mass.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:37 am
by Luca Blight
And then you said this...
In post 1656, Tchill13 wrote:I don't believe we should mass claim given a protective may still be out there.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:39 am
by Tchill13
I... Just said I said that.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:40 am
by Luca Blight
It completely contradicts your point.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:41 am
by Luca Blight
And you ultimately agreed because I agreed - you had no choice after that, which was my point.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:47 am
by Tchill13
I literally just said I said that lol. A whole 3 minutes before you posted.

"it's bullshit if x happens"

"it's bullshit if y happens"

You'd discredit no matter how I agreed to it. I agreed to it because of klick's reasoning.

Dropping more convo pieces btw. This time it was why gobble isn't much better than A50 in terms of a scum partner.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:49 am
by Tchill13
The DaTitsi lynch, opening the day pushing klick, effectively polarizing my best shot at winning this game with scum! Gobble, not claiming tracker at mass given how easy a fake claim that would have been to maintain and how much more believable I'd be atm.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:54 am
by Luca Blight
I’m dropping conversation pieces because we are repeatedly clogging up the thread. If I responded to everything you say then there would be no end to it.

It was worth quoting because it literally contradicted what you’d just said.

I don’t feel the need to answer why Gobble is a better partner, a) because the answer is obvious and b) because I already outlined why above.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:03 am
by Tchill13
In post 3168, Tchill13 wrote:The DaTitsi lynch, opening the day pushing klick, effectively polarizing my best shot at winning this game with scum! Gobble, not claiming tracker at mass given how easy a fake claim that would have been to maintain and how much more believable I'd be atm.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:07 am
by Luca Blight
Just more fucking WIFOM. Whatever I reply you’ll just spew further WIFOM. It’s pointless.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:08 am
by Tchill13
In post 3168, Tchill13 wrote:The DaTitsi lynch, opening the day pushing klick, effectively polarizing my best shot at winning this game with scum! Gobble, not claiming tracker at mass given how easy a fake claim that would have been to maintain and how much more believable I'd be atm.

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:25 am
by Chemist1422
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:25 am
by Chemist1422
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