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i propose a team with farside, unwnd, and NDMath.
if this passes, we can psuedo confirm Dunn and NDMath. The quiz mechanic is pro town, so I suspect people lying about their claims. I believe NDMath and Dunn should be resolved if they are truthful because scum would want to get rid of conf towns. However, this is a closed setup, so perhaps scum leave them in for the wifom. spring might be scum, but I agree that this has been a terrible town.
Starbuck gets lynched today because her tone sounds super fake and defensive. unwnd also brought up the point that Starbuck instantly thought she was proxied which is a scummy reaction.
Chain order
farside-beeboy-unwnd-nd-dunn-pb-tse-me-spring-starbuck
I just put beeboy second. Everything else makes sense.
The problem is: now that Dunn and ND claimed, my two top scumreads are gone. We definitely don't allow them to be killed, so maybe a group of {beeboy, TSE, spring}? I could be replaced with beeboy, but I would prefer not to.

In post 3066, Starbuck wrote:If it helps, y'all put me on that hurt list, but make sure that she's there with me. I'll vote whichever way we need.

like this quote doesn't really make sense. If she thinks spring is scum, that means she is likely fine with being killed? This doesn't really line up with what she's said so far. For example, PB and beeboy both have expressed their desire to die.

Anyways, I could be tunneling, but give me the decision to kill either spring or starbuck because I need to reevaluate both of them.

Chain Order 3.2

farside22

(11)

- farside22>

Chainless:

(1)

- Dunnstral, Starbuck, Pink Ball, unwnd, NDmath, TrueSoulEnergy, midwaybear, beeboy, springlullaby

Quiz Team 3.1

Proposed Team

(3)

-

Pink Ball, unwnd, farside22

Approve

(1)

- Starbuck

Decline

(2)

- springlullaby, Dunnstral

Not voting:

(7)

- Pink Ball, unwnd, NDmath, TrueSoulEnergy, midwaybear, beeboy, farside22

Strongman kill VC 3.2:

Springlullaby, Dunnstral, Midwaybear

(1)

- farside22

Midwaybear, Dunnstral, NDmath

(1)

- Pinkball

unwnd, Beeboy, NDMath

(1)

- beeboy

Beeboy, TrueSoulEnergy, NDMath

(1)

- unwnd

Springlullaby, TrueSoulEnergy, Starbuck

(1)

- NDmath

Farside22, unwnd, Pink ball

(1)

- springlullaby

Not voting:

(4)

- Dunnstral, Starbuck, TrueSoulEnergy, midwaybear,

In post 3141, Pink Ball wrote:Nooooo dont make mid decide he will let spring live!!!

In post 3142, midwaybear wrote:i would choose TSE over spring because some of the things spring has been saying are weird.
like what she said about Raya's role.

I'm good with this choice.

In post 3146, Pink Ball wrote:farside we could assume that your protection on N1 is conftown right???

It's the only thing that makes sense to me. Lets play devils advocate for a moment. Whether you believe SB or Spring to be scum in the N1 quiz they both knew who was going to be the chainleader and the mod claried during the night that the person voted as chainleader would be BP. So yes, I believe I protected the player that was to be shot that night.
I'd rather not say who.

Also since I don't mind an open wolf at this point in the game. Why don't be force TSE/Sping at the bottom. Scum shots are SB/Mid/TSE in that pool?

In post 3148, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 3143, midwaybear wrote:why does town have so many PRs now...

1-Shot Wiretapper
2-Shot Sabotoge Checker
2-Shot Doctor
Mason with no pt
Mason with no pt

Don't forget the neighbor claim by PB and Spring.
SB said in the quiz night 1 she is a VT.
BB claimed he was NU (hurts a quiz by failing it)
Only mid and TSE have not claimed anything thus far.

In post 3153, farside22 wrote:

mod: for the strong man kill is the choice. Does the scum get the group with the most votes?

unhurt

In post 3154, farside22 wrote:So yes, I believe I protected the player that was to be shot that night.
I'd rather not say who.

And this town is letting that slip by.

Wtf. There is no reason for a real doctor to not out target.

Everybody: vote for me as a NK target, I'm pretty much ready to be nk.

Cues PB not discriminating between NK and lynch.

@beeboy where are you? your thoughts on tse and an answer to my question pls.

If I'm really wrong, and unwnd and Farside are just that bad: not claiming target and targeting people who don't need to be targeted.

I can see midway/TSE/Pink Ball.

Mason claim is unlikely to be scum.

Oh btw, the nk pool makes it look like really scumsided as it means there are nk's.

1) Titus Albert B. Rampage - VT
2) Dunnstral ------------------ Mason with NDmath
3) SirCakez ------------------- VT
4) Raya36 --------------------- 2-shot sabotage cop
5) Starbuck ------------------- VT
6) Pink Ball -------------------- Neighbor with springlullaby
7) farside22 ------------------- 2-shot doc
8) unwnd ---------------------- 1-shot wiretaper
9) NDmath -------------------- Mason with Dunn
10) TrueSoulEnergy ---------- ????
11) midwaybear -------------- ????
12) beeboy -------------------- Quiz miller
13) springlullaby -------------- Neighbor with Pink Ball

--------------------------------

TSE and midway, you may as well want to claim now.

Btw, I don't see why farside claimed. At all.

Because if farside saved unwnd, it confirms him as town.


5) Starbuck ------------------- VT
6) Pink Ball -------------------- Neighbor with springlullaby

10) TrueSoulEnergy ---------- ????
11) midwaybear -------------- ????
12) beeboy -------------------- Quiz miller
13) springlullaby -------------- Neighbor with Pink Ball

Which looks like this.
> Midwaybear and TSE need to die. Pink Ball is probably the last scum.

In post 3155, farside22 wrote:

In post 3148, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 3143, midwaybear wrote:why does town have so many PRs now...

1-Shot Wiretapper
2-Shot Sabotoge Checker
2-Shot Doctor
Mason with no pt
Mason with no pt

Don't forget the neighbor claim by PB and Spring.
SB said in the quiz night 1 she is a VT.
BB claimed he was NU (hurts a quiz by failing it)
Only mid and TSE have not claimed anything thus far.

Yes but neighbors aren't that strong on their own + if there is scum in the neighborhood it is negative for town, and beeboy's role is negative too

So I don't think they fit into a "too much power roles" argument

I think what is claimed so far is reasonable considering the chain mechanic, and considering the quiz mechanic

Quiz mechanic = town sided, chain mechanic = scumsided

As for how scumsided the chain is.... if we mislynch today, tomorrow is lylo and we have to put all 3 scum in the bottom 3 or we lose, so we basically have to know the full team. Unless there's something in the quiz tonight.

springlullaby wrote:Because if farside saved unwnd, it confirms him as town.

unwnd was bulletproof night 1 - you were there

In post 3157, springlullaby wrote:

In post 3154, farside22 wrote:So yes, I believe I protected the player that was to be shot that night.
I'd rather not say who.

And this town is letting that slip by.

Wtf. There is no reason for a real doctor to not out target.

True the mafia should know so I don't see why it remains a secret?

@farside that's exactly what we should do: TSE and spring as last two, spring is lynched, pool of three is midway, Starbuck and TSE.

So

HURT: Starbuck, TSE, midwaybear

In post 3164, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 3157, springlullaby wrote:

In post 3154, farside22 wrote:So yes, I believe I protected the player that was to be shot that night.
I'd rather not say who.

And this town is letting that slip by.

Wtf. There is no reason for a real doctor to not out target.

True the mafia should know so I don't see why it remains a secret?

I protected beeboy.

In post 3166, Pink Ball wrote:So

HURT: Starbuck, TSE, midwaybear

HURT: Starbuck, TSE, midwaybear

VOTE: pinkball
Please pass to star as i don't trust many will.

If you could keep the order and be the one to push thing I'd appreciate it. I have been fighting some really hard days this week and I am really need to step back for a few days.

In post 2969, beeboy wrote:HURT: unwnd, Beeboy, NDMath

Give unwnd a bullet proof vest.
Scum has to kill Math or my negative utility.

This is the best line of play.

Yet the axis of sucks doesn't follow beeboy, the only rational player.


Farside is lying.

Farside is either really really dumb or outright scum.
I'm thinking outright scum.

2) Dunnstral ------------------ Mason with NDmath
5) Starbuck ------------------- VT
6) Pink Ball -------------------- Neighbor with springlullaby


9) NDmath -------------------- Mason with Dunn
10) TrueSoulEnergy ---------- ????
11) midwaybear -------------- ????

13) springlullaby -------------- Neighbor with Pink Ball


Nah, farside + unwnd is totally a scum couple and unwnd is scum.

@Starbuck, get in here: have you finished your suckery? Can you put your head into solving the game or do you want to suck more?
@TSE, why am I scum? I refuse to be lynched, I'm ok to be in the nk pool. You need to claim.
@midway, why am I scum again? You need to claim too.

If any of them aren't scum then NDmath+Dunn+Starbuck?

The only thing that makes me pause is the Raya kill, which makes me think scum is outside of consensus.

@midway, why did you think this town is dumb?

In post 3142, midwaybear wrote:i would choose TSE over spring because some of the things spring has been saying are weird.
like what she said about Raya's role.

What is weird about Raya's role?

In post 3167, farside22 wrote:

In post 3164, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 3157, springlullaby wrote:

In post 3154, farside22 wrote:So yes, I believe I protected the player that was to be shot that night.
I'd rather not say who.

And this town is letting that slip by.

Wtf. There is no reason for a real doctor to not out target.

True the mafia should know so I don't see why it remains a secret?

I protected beeboy.

In post 3166, Pink Ball wrote:So

HURT: Starbuck, TSE, midwaybear

HURT: Starbuck, TSE, midwaybear

VOTE: pinkball
Please pass to star as i don't trust many will.

If you could keep the order and be the one to push thing I'd appreciate it. I have been fighting some really hard days this week and I am really need to step back for a few days.

Do you honestly believe I’m scum with Starbuck?
Farside has a greater chance for that.

I’m VT
Thought I softed it Day 1.