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In post 3144, Bellaphant wrote:I dunno, like...pooky was pretty heavily town read, including by me early game, and now I too am just not feeling it - but that could be scummy, according to you?

P-edit I feel like you kinda just answered this.

Pooky is still a really hard tr for me. Like him moving me from yellow to green but not actually saying anything about it. Why does scum!Pooky squander an opportune chance at hard pocketing me?

In post 3146, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 3140, RCEnigma wrote:

In post 107, The toad wrote:

In post 81, Rad wrote:I never watched Lost so all flavor is completely, ahem, lost on me. Happy to be town though!

Wolfy entrance.
VOTE: Rad

Lukewarm and Bell give early towny vibes.

Bad take. I’m probably scum for this post.

I have no idea wtf you’re doing in this game but it’s hella entertaining.

Just vibing.

In post 3142, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 3137, Rad wrote:

In post 3129, Bellaphant wrote:...(that's a little condescending )

Also, people are really a lot more aware of their reads status than I am, generally? That's you, Luke and bbt that's bought it up.

Shit was I coming across as condescending? Sorry that wasn't my intent at all!

I'm very aware of the reads that came from pooky's collection and I think the heavy town reads absolutely need to be the focus of scum here. Any possible slip up of heavy town reads should be immediately pounced on by scum if town doesn't do it for them. Not saying it necessarily makes players who pounce scum, but it needs to happen one way or the other. So I'm definitely interested in focusing on people who may opportunistically jump at me for my DP read and the fact that you could but didn't screams townie to me.

What is your current DP read?

LOL please relax on that, I will get to you when I get to you. I'm busy responding in real time to shit and haven't even begun looking into your ISO. I'm starting to read malcolm's first anyway as his reaction to all this was way more sus. You have 268 posts, now the most in the game, and I have never ISO'd you. If town!DP, please forgive me for not having an up to date absolute read on you and instead just suggesting that maybe you're scum based on some feels I got over time. Let me get to it tonight. If I come up with a logical scum read on you I'll post my 8 page dissertation about it then.

In post 3148, RCEnigma wrote:

In post 3138, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 3136, RCEnigma wrote:

In post 3134, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 3131, RCEnigma wrote:Umm I’m 4 pages deep and lukewarm is scum but no one cares?

What seriously? What are you even basing this on?

I’m basing it off of the first 4 pages. What a silly question.

I’m obviously asking for a more specific answer.

I think the way flavor was approached by multiple other slots (Bell, BBT for example) Felt organic. The way Luke approached it felt more like a tool, ergo not organic. It might be overzealousness of knowing the flavor and wanting to talk about it but if that’s the case my read probably falls off further into the thread.

If I had to strip everything away I’d say it’s like, other slots were engaging in a conversation that Luke felt they needed to be inserted into.

Even at the time they are getting townreada for it so idk maybe I’m crazy.

donu think luke is scum?

In post 3153, Off The Hook wrote:

In post 3148, RCEnigma wrote:

In post 3138, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 3136, RCEnigma wrote:

In post 3134, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 3131, RCEnigma wrote:Umm I’m 4 pages deep and lukewarm is scum but no one cares?

What seriously? What are you even basing this on?

I’m basing it off of the first 4 pages. What a silly question.

I’m obviously asking for a more specific answer.

I think the way flavor was approached by multiple other slots (Bell, BBT for example) Felt organic. The way Luke approached it felt more like a tool, ergo not organic. It might be overzealousness of knowing the flavor and wanting to talk about it but if that’s the case my read probably falls off further into the thread.

If I had to strip everything away I’d say it’s like, other slots were engaging in a conversation that Luke felt they needed to be inserted into.

Even at the time they are getting townreada for it so idk maybe I’m crazy.

donu think luke is scum?

I think he had a scummy opening and got chain townread for it. Which is weird.

I’m not calling anyone here a sheep but I’m no Welshman.

In post 3148, RCEnigma wrote:

In post 3138, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 3136, RCEnigma wrote:

In post 3134, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 3131, RCEnigma wrote:Umm I’m 4 pages deep and lukewarm is scum but no one cares?

What seriously? What are you even basing this on?

I’m basing it off of the first 4 pages. What a silly question.

I’m obviously asking for a more specific answer.

I think the way flavor was approached by multiple other slots (Bell, BBT for example) Felt organic. The way Luke approached it felt more like a tool, ergo not organic. It might be overzealousness of knowing the flavor and wanting to talk about it but if that’s the case my read probably falls off further into the thread.

If I had to strip everything away I’d say it’s like, other slots were engaging in a conversation that Luke felt they needed to be inserted into.

Even at the time they are getting townreada for it so idk maybe I’m crazy.

I will reISO him but his tr me for being “indignant” - I think that’s the word he used sounded genuine to me.

In post 3152, Rad wrote:

In post 3142, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 3137, Rad wrote:

In post 3129, Bellaphant wrote:...(that's a little condescending )

Also, people are really a lot more aware of their reads status than I am, generally? That's you, Luke and bbt that's bought it up.

Shit was I coming across as condescending? Sorry that wasn't my intent at all!

I'm very aware of the reads that came from pooky's collection and I think the heavy town reads absolutely need to be the focus of scum here. Any possible slip up of heavy town reads should be immediately pounced on by scum if town doesn't do it for them. Not saying it necessarily makes players who pounce scum, but it needs to happen one way or the other. So I'm definitely interested in focusing on people who may opportunistically jump at me for my DP read and the fact that you could but didn't screams townie to me.

What is your current DP read?

LOL please relax on that, I will get to you when I get to you. I'm busy responding in real time to shit and haven't even begun looking into your ISO. I'm starting to read malcolm's first anyway as his reaction to all this was way more sus. You have 268 posts, now the most in the game, and I have never ISO'd you. If town!DP, please forgive me for not having an up to date absolute read on you and instead just suggesting that maybe you're scum based on some feels I got over time. Let me get to it tonight. If I come up with a logical scum read on you I'll post my 8 page dissertation about it then.

I honestly don’t know how to read this. You sound very genuine but it’s still really strange to me that you want me to trust you on your read on me, even if it’s scum. Do you see my issue with this?

Idk where that is. I’m on page 5 and have light townreads on Bell, CSF, Pooky, Klick, and possibly BBat but that’s the weakest. I feel like there was another but I can’t come up with a name off the top of my head so it shouldn’t be that important.

Dwlee might be town on tone from a random page I read. I like Rad for recent posting and nothing from the early game. I like off the hook for a combination of tone read and their reads in relation to my thinking. I don’t know if that’s early game or recent, I feel like I’m mixing things up by going back and forth.

In post 12, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 10, Malakittens wrote:I’m to be insufferable all game. all fucking game..

I mean at least I can talk to the dead.

VOTE: dancingpuppets

I probably would not have revealed that until you learned something useful from a dead player, but :shrug:

This post reads +townie to me.

To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:

1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.

In post 3156, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 3152, Rad wrote:

In post 3142, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 3137, Rad wrote:

In post 3129, Bellaphant wrote:...(that's a little condescending )

Also, people are really a lot more aware of their reads status than I am, generally? That's you, Luke and bbt that's bought it up.

Shit was I coming across as condescending? Sorry that wasn't my intent at all!

I'm very aware of the reads that came from pooky's collection and I think the heavy town reads absolutely need to be the focus of scum here. Any possible slip up of heavy town reads should be immediately pounced on by scum if town doesn't do it for them. Not saying it necessarily makes players who pounce scum, but it needs to happen one way or the other. So I'm definitely interested in focusing on people who may opportunistically jump at me for my DP read and the fact that you could but didn't screams townie to me.

What is your current DP read?

LOL please relax on that, I will get to you when I get to you. I'm busy responding in real time to shit and haven't even begun looking into your ISO. I'm starting to read malcolm's first anyway as his reaction to all this was way more sus. You have 268 posts, now the most in the game, and I have never ISO'd you. If town!DP, please forgive me for not having an up to date absolute read on you and instead just suggesting that maybe you're scum based on some feels I got over time. Let me get to it tonight. If I come up with a logical scum read on you I'll post my 8 page dissertation about it then.

I honestly don’t know how to read this. You sound very genuine but it’s still really strange to me that you want me to trust you on your read on me, even if it’s scum. Do you see my issue with this?

Absolutely. And your reaction to this has been kinda townie for me. It is what it is. I'm town and that's just the truth but I don't expect you to just take my word for it.

In post 3158, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 12, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 10, Malakittens wrote:I’m to be insufferable all game. all fucking game..

I mean at least I can talk to the dead.

VOTE: dancingpuppets

I probably would not have revealed that until you learned something useful from a dead player, but :shrug:

This post reads +townie to me.

It doesn’t to me.

In post 3159, Rad wrote:To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:

1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.

Err…. What if you’re town with bad reads?

In post 3159, Rad wrote:To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:

1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.

So what do you make of RCE pushing Luke? I’m actually a bit suss on him now and it has nothing to do with him reading me wrong but it’s really hard to tell with him. \_0_/

Sus on me or sus on Luke?

In post 3162, RCEnigma wrote:

In post 3159, Rad wrote:To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:

1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.

Err…. What if you’re town with bad reads?

Scum team should still want to knock down the top town players regardless of their ability to read. Town read players aren't scary for their ability to read (that's completely separate and a skill thing), they're scary for making the less town read players more likely to be the target of town's focus.

In post 3158, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 12, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 10, Malakittens wrote:I’m to be insufferable all game. all fucking game..

I mean at least I can talk to the dead.

VOTE: dancingpuppets

I probably would not have revealed that until you learned something useful from a dead player, but :shrug:

This post reads +townie to me.

Literally right before this, Luke dropped a flavor claim. Well a soft. I don’t put much stock into a first post claim that isn’t like miller or ascetic or something. Mala could be doing anything. I think the townie reaction is to ignore it or wifom it.

It’s also like…hypocritical to call them out on this when they just dropped flavor info. And if the counter argument is that flavor didn’t matter, why ask Bell about it right after?

In post 3164, RCEnigma wrote:Sus on me or sus on Luke?

You. Why is Luke even scummy? Like I’m just thinking you pushing Luke is the kind of thing you’d do as scum.

In post 3141, Rad wrote: No, I'm saying that any town slot that's being widely read as town is horrendously dangerous to scum and they need to be taken down a slot. Maybe town accomplishes that for them, or maybe scum has to push it. But it has to happen.

Do you disagree?

Yeah, I do.

Just kill them? Unless their reads are bad, then let them live and continue making bad pushes while leading town?

You disagree?

In post 3166, RCEnigma wrote:

In post 3158, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 12, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 10, Malakittens wrote:I’m to be insufferable all game. all fucking game..

I mean at least I can talk to the dead.

VOTE: dancingpuppets

I probably would not have revealed that until you learned something useful from a dead player, but :shrug:

This post reads +townie to me.

Literally right before this, Luke dropped a flavor claim. Well a soft. I don’t put much stock into a first post claim that isn’t like miller or ascetic or something. Mala could be doing anything. I think the townie reaction is to ignore it or wifom it.

It’s also like…hypocritical to call them out on this when they just dropped flavor info. And if the counter argument is that flavor didn’t matter, why ask Bell about it right after?

He wasn’t shading Mala with this, so don’t get your point?

In post 3165, Rad wrote:

In post 3162, RCEnigma wrote:

In post 3159, Rad wrote:To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:

1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.

Err…. What if you’re town with bad reads?

Scum team should still want to knock down the top town players regardless of their ability to read. Town read players aren't scary for their ability to read (that's completely separate and a skill thing), they're scary for making the less town read players more likely to be the target of town's focus.

Well generally I guess. But we just finished a game that is the antithesis of this statement. Also Large games have a larger amount of town blending as well as scum. Universal townreads aren’t as big a thorn for scum as potential prs with accurate suspicions.

Can we please trim down these fucking quotes?

Makes the page impossible to read

In post 3169, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 3166, RCEnigma wrote:

In post 3158, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 12, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 10, Malakittens wrote:I’m to be insufferable all game. all fucking game..

I mean at least I can talk to the dead.

VOTE: dancingpuppets

I probably would not have revealed that until you learned something useful from a dead player, but :shrug:

This post reads +townie to me.

Literally right before this, Luke dropped a flavor claim. Well a soft. I don’t put much stock into a first post claim that isn’t like miller or ascetic or something. Mala could be doing anything. I think the townie reaction is to ignore it or wifom it.

It’s also like…hypocritical to call them out on this when they just dropped flavor info. And if the counter argument is that flavor didn’t matter, why ask Bell about it right after?

He wasn’t shading Mala with this, so don’t get your point?

Fair, just explaining why I don’t find it townie when you do.

In post 3168, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

In post 3141, Rad wrote: No, I'm saying that any town slot that's being widely read as town is horrendously dangerous to scum and they need to be taken down a slot. Maybe town accomplishes that for them, or maybe scum has to push it. But it has to happen.

Do you disagree?

Yeah, I do.

Just kill them? Unless their reads are bad, then let them live and continue making bad pushes while leading town?

You disagree?

I guess it depends on the skill level of the scum team? It's my experience that scum just kills the top town read player so as to not overthink things. Sure scum could decide something different but in general, isn't that just what happens?

In post 3167, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 3164, RCEnigma wrote:Sus on me or sus on Luke?

You. Why is Luke even scummy? Like I’m just thinking you pushing Luke is the kind of thing you’d do as scum.

This is accurate and I don’t hate this read. But it doesn’t change my Luke read 5 pages into the game.