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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:19 pm
by Nashville Dreams
Cutty Shark wrote:I specified which head because bork is way more familiar with Majiffy than I am.
I ask if it should be null because couldn't scumJiffy just imitate townJiffy's tunneling?


yes it could be null, but I don't think it's null. I'm just attributing that Jiffy's tone/behavior feels a lot more like he did in Micc's game than say when he was scum in X-Men.

~M

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:21 pm
by Cutty Shark
Okey doke.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:25 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
I'm gonna complete my meta dive tomorrow but I'm leaning towards voting Anatole.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:36 pm
by Malakittens
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I'm gonna complete my meta dive tomorrow but I'm leaning towards voting Anatole.


I do also. The whole claim does feel odd to me.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:37 pm
by Nashville Dreams
Malakittens wrote:
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I'm gonna complete my meta dive tomorrow but I'm leaning towards voting Anatole.


I do also. The whole claim does feel odd to me.


I don't even. I suck at this hydra thing~

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:40 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Malakittens wrote:
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I'm gonna complete my meta dive tomorrow but I'm leaning towards voting Anatole.


I do also. The whole claim does feel odd to me.

Do you think he's partners with Mara/Honey or a Serial Killer?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:58 pm
by fferyllt
Nashville Dreams wrote:
Cutty Shark wrote:
Nashville Dreams wrote:Also Bork just saying what jiffy is doing is very similar to how he decided to railroad me in Micc's Micro and the fact he wouldn't stop makes me actually believe that Jiffy could actually be town right now.

Are you sure it shouldn't be null (this isn't bork)?


Okay, regardless of which head you are. I don't see how this makes it null. Jiffy came in and started instantly tunneling Bork which reminded me how he just did it to me in the Micro. I don't see how it's null because he was town there and not scum. Also he did something similar to Shos in Inyusha which furthers my belief that Jiffy is just being really stubborn town.

~M


Not instantly. He was going to have a go at me but I turned out to be a pesky mason!

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:29 am
by Anatole Kuragin
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Hey guys, look at this amazing find:


Anatole Kuragin wrote:VOTE: Inflatable Pie

Him and messiah gave eachother town/null reads without evidence all game.

look it up yourselves


Anatole in Timeshift claims that his scumpartner InflatablePie is scum with his OTHER partner Messaiah Complex.


Has every mafia player not done that at some point?

Also, that scenario is completely different from the one you're trying to paint here. I was trying to connect a living partner to a dead one because it was fairly likely one of us was going to die that die. In this game I pegged honey and baboon before either died and when baboon was being townread by players like you.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:21 am
by Majiffy
And now you're just somebody that I used to voooooote

You didn't have to shut me out
You called me town but I'm not listening anyway
Cuz I don't even need that, yo
From somebody that I used to vote

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:32 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Anatole Kuragin wrote:
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Hey guys, look at this amazing find:


Anatole Kuragin wrote:VOTE: Inflatable Pie

Him and messiah gave eachother town/null reads without evidence all game.

look it up yourselves


Anatole in Timeshift claims that his scumpartner InflatablePie is scum with his OTHER partner Messaiah Complex.


Has every mafia player not done that at some point?

Also, that scenario is completely different from the one you're trying to paint here. I was trying to connect a living partner to a dead one because it was fairly likely one of us was going to die that die. In this game I pegged honey and baboon before either died and when baboon was being townread by players like you.

I'm sure they have and I don't think it is impossible that you pegged both scum based on interactive tells.

But there wasn't anything blatant about Baboon and Honeybee being partners together. It feels like you made the right conclusion with poor reasoning which points to an informed perspective.

Your reasoning for calling Mara scum was really weak. I talked about this already. You even retracted it when Bork questioned you on it. I'm trying to see how you as town came to the conclusions you did but I just can't follow your thought process there.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:39 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
I'm re-reading Timeshift again. Anatole, if there is anything you want me to look out for that will show that you are town here, let me know.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:55 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Not going to try and argue my towniness through self-meta when I've lynched 2/3 scum. If that's not enough then so be it

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:56 am
by Cutty Shark
Majiffy, how confident are you in your scumread? And do you understand the implications of a mislynch?

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:57 am
by Cutty Shark
Anatole Kuragin wrote:Not going to try and argue my towniness through self-meta when I've lynched 2/3 scum. If that's not enough then so be it

Maybe you could respond to the repeatedly brought up point that you recanted your Baboon because of bork?

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:59 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Baboon was an up and down read for me - whether it was Bork or Tammy vouching for her or my own read into her positioning on the Honey lynch at one point that was making me townread babs at any given time. Every player in this game has gone back and forth on reads.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:00 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Majiffy quit making me feel like an asshole for wanting to lynch you by trying to lynch someone besides me and with awesome songs

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:01 am
by Majiffy
Cutty Shark wrote:Majiffy, how confident are you in your scumread? And do you understand the implications of a mislynch?

I'm sitting on it for the moment.

And yes.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:02 am
by Cutty Shark
Anatole Kuragin wrote:Baboon was an up and down read for me - whether it was Bork or Tammy vouching for her or my own read into her positioning on the Honey lynch at one point that was making me townread babs at any given time. Every player in this game has gone back and forth on reads.

So why were you scumreading them again?

Majiffy, does that mean "I'm sitting here and not chancing my mind" or "I'm sitting here possibly reconsidering"?

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:02 am
by Cutty Shark
*changing

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:05 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Anatole Kuragin wrote:I can only carry this town on my back for so long.

Anatole Kuragin wrote:
Bulbazak wrote:I'm actually leaning back toward Anatole after his effort to try to dismiss my reads and then claiming to be carrying the town. He's about in the right place on the Pie wagon for bussing scum as well.


Remember your read on pie?

I'm seeing lots of similarities there and here. And you feel the same with regard to your mindset i.e. "I was voting scum all along."

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:07 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Mara was aggressively pushing lynches that seemed phony and seemed to change her convictions depending on potential lynches. That's pretty much the jist of it. I originally scumread her right off the back for meta compared to Timeshift that Tammy and F16 disagreed with. I thought she played much less passively in this game. I deferred to them just because they have more experience in making meta cases and Tammy has a lot more experience playing with mara in general.

I've changed my reads on players but it was never because of a wagon, it was because I either correctly or incorrectly read something they did as town/scum. She changed them based on what was convenient.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:07 am
by Anatole Kuragin
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Anatole Kuragin wrote:I can only carry this town on my back for so long.

Anatole Kuragin wrote:
Bulbazak wrote:I'm actually leaning back toward Anatole after his effort to try to dismiss my reads and then claiming to be carrying the town. He's about in the right place on the Pie wagon for bussing scum as well.


Remember your read on pie?

I'm seeing lots of similarities there and here. And you feel the same with regard to your mindset i.e. "I was voting scum all along."


this is hilarious. I wish tammy was still here to explain why. you'll figure it out if you keep reading though

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:09 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
I know it was a joke if that's what you were referring to and yes I have read the game.

I'm talking about your mindset being similar. It is as if you feel scumreading scum would get you towncred.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:10 am
by Anatole Kuragin
why did you quote it if you knew it was a joke?

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:13 am
by Anatole Kuragin
I was trying to discredit Bulba because he made a bad read in that other quote - it had nothing to do with my scumhunting in that game and it wasn't an appeal to that.