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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:04 pm
by Elyse
TSO's 3148 is pretty damning, IMO.

Can people explain townreads on Eagle? I've been going back and forth with him.

At this point, I've put PS, TSO, Aneninen, Garmr, Varsoon, and TWIE in my townpile.

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:13 pm
by Randomnamechange
Elyse wrote:TSO's 3148 is pretty damning, IMO.

Can people explain townreads on Eagle? I've been going back and forth with him.

At this point, I've put PS, TSO, Aneninen, Garmr, Varsoon, and TWIE in my townpile.

I cant really to be honest. He just seemss genuine.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:29 am
by jasonT1981
Official Vote Count


Extrapolated Eagle
(4): Garmr, Shiro, T S O, Passionate Storm
Errantparabola
(2): Extrapolated Eagle, randomidget
randomidget
(2): Varsoon, Aneninen
I Am Innocent
(1): Elyse
My Other Head Is Scum
(1): Errantparabola

Not Voting
(5): I Am Innocent, TheWayItEnds, ZZZX, My Other Head Is Scum,PeregrineV


Day 4 Deadline(expired on 2016-01-19 14:09:44)

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.


T S O wrote:
Jason - hypothetically, if a Strongman targets a Hider who is hiding behind someone else, what would be the result?


Apologies, I missed this first time reading. If a strongman targets the hider, and the hider hides, the hider is hidden and therefore would not die. The only way a hider can die, is if they hide behind scum nullifying their hiding ability leaving them open to night actions (and in the process dying even if not targeted) or hiding behind someone, who is themselves targeted for the kill.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:14 am
by Passionate Storm
Elyse wrote:TSO's 3148 is pretty damning, IMO.

Can people explain townreads on Eagle? I've been going back and forth with him.

At this point, I've put PS, TSO, Aneninen, Garmr, Varsoon, and TWIE in my townpile.


Well, we both agree Aneninen is scum. Why do you think he's town?

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:47 am
by Elyse
For me it goes back to his Clotilde gambit. It seems like something he wouldn't do as scum and it looked like an attempt to solve the game. Since then his posts haven't really wowed me but they aren't scummy either.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:23 am
by TheWayItEnds
i dont understand how people are town reading varsoon still.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:27 am
by Randomnamechange
Yeah, Varsoon should be at best null.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:05 am
by T S O
Let's just say it - he seems like the vig. That's it. There's no point hiding it because literally -everyone- is thinking the same.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:08 am
by T S O
Elyse wrote:TSO's 3148 is pretty damning, IMO.

Can people explain townreads on Eagle? I've been going back and forth with him.

At this point, I've put PS, TSO, Aneninen, Garmr, Varsoon, and TWIE in my townpile.


Yes, yes, quite likely, also fairly likely, I guess and yeah.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:08 am
by T S O
I mean - Varsoon has somehow survived to d4 despite being the most obvious vig there is, which is sorta admirable in its own right.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:09 am
by T S O
I'm not trying to direct vig shots because I'd bet scum have some way of nullifying it.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:09 am
by T S O
Though, aside from a Doctor, I guess it's all irrelevant, since they'll just target Varsoon. Hmm.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:58 am
by TheWayItEnds
Is that what we're thinking?

Oh.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:01 am
by Passionate Storm
Elyse wrote:For me it goes back to his Clotilde gambit. It seems like something he wouldn't do as scum and it looked like an attempt to solve the game. Since then his posts haven't really wowed me but they aren't scummy either.


When's the last gamesolvey post they had?

I am quite alarmed at our level of agreement....

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:31 am
by Elyse
I was talking about the Clotilde thing.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:30 am
by PeregrineV
Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Mmm. Look at his interest in the Elyse wagon when Klingon becomes viable lynch. And then his sudden forgetting of the topic. Also watch how is reads on people flip back and forth literally from post to post.


He seems to mostly have a townread on Elyse that matches yours. Other than a post or to, it doesn't seem like much disagreement between you two.

And flipflopping on people is, recently and unfortunately, pretty often town behavior.

Unless you got specifics, still not my first choice for lynch today.

(Who is, you ask, if you haven't yet?)

Not sure. Want to actually ISO Kling for leads, but need to finish this close week.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:35 am
by PeregrineV
Passionate Storm wrote:Invalidate my premises, and my confidence wanes.

Yup. I still think scum piled on Spifflop and itlepipitlepip and alchemist. EE fits that bill.

PV also fits due to vote pattern.



Is this like the third random jab for the third random reason?

@Jason, If a Hider hides behind a Mafia Godfather, and assuming no other action on the Hider or GF, will the Hider die?

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:37 am
by PeregrineV
@TSO
- Currently thinking that Eagle doesn't seem like scum. I saw your giant post on it, and will have to go back and analyze and argue before I vote for him.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:45 am
by jasonT1981
PeregrineV wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:Invalidate my premises, and my confidence wanes.

Yup. I still think scum piled on Spifflop and itlepipitlepip and alchemist. EE fits that bill.

PV also fits due to vote pattern.



Is this like the third random jab for the third random reason?

@Jason, If a Hider hides behind a Mafia Godfather, and assuming no other action on the Hider or GF, will the Hider die?


Hiding behind any mafia, regardless of their role will result in death, as well as leave the hider open to night actions.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:56 am
by Elyse
Shiro's absence is making me question him as well

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:16 am
by PeregrineV
jasonT1981 wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:Invalidate my premises, and my confidence wanes.

Yup. I still think scum piled on Spifflop and itlepipitlepip and alchemist. EE fits that bill.

PV also fits due to vote pattern.



Is this like the third random jab for the third random reason?

@Jason, If a Hider hides behind a Mafia Godfather, and assuming no other action on the Hider or GF, will the Hider die?


Hiding behind any mafia, regardless of their role will result in death, as well as leave the hider open to night actions.


@Jason- thx!

@PS- Talk to me if you want a response. Or not.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:24 am
by T S O
Wait, so:

If a Hider hides behind a Mafia, and the Mafia shoots the Hider, the Hider dies by Mafia kill?

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:24 am
by T S O
I think this may be the correct scenario, at last.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:30 am
by Shiro
Elyse wrote:Shiro's absence is making me question him as well


Excuse me absence ? I didn't post for one page and you call that absence ? Seesh

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:31 am
by Shiro
Like not posting doesn't mean I am not here reading