Fake example:
Roster fake claimed a guilty on Titus. Titus.
If this example was real then it would mean I think titus looks scum because of it.
I had some notes that I could see being indicative of either alignment or they're NAI. I'll cut those out.
Spoiler: probably the biggest wallpost I've ever posted
Pg. 17 - roster shades dave-percy intractions without voting
Pg. 18 - decides dave was awkward and percy is townish And votes dave.
Fusco
This one is a little tricky. I think if he didn't vote either of them and just threw out that shade I'd think one of them is scum. With him voting dave I'm leaning town for percy. I went back and forth on this one though it just feels too mild to be distancing, people tend to try to make it kinda obvious that they "scumread" their partner.
Pg. 18 - skitter's initial explanations for the percy read after percy calls her out. Unclear if it's genuine SR or she believes he's town
Post 455 - does skitter fake a disagreement with partner over a read if she genuinenly believes it to be scum? If the point is to get credit for lynching scum wouldn't they both want to lynch there?
Pg. 40 - skitter who has lost the percy scumread is scumreading fusco now. Killed for her reads?
On the other hand we have shoshin scumreading percy and townreading fusco
Specifically if both aren't scum together then fusco is town
Though skitter was killed by mafia shoshin by wolves
Pg. 51 - since skitter started townreading percy she's just been more and more sure of it and kept repeating it. Hard to see why mafia killed her when roster and PP were barely mentioned by her day 1
1470 - pretty sure this is genuine from skitter and she has played with scum percy. I have played with town percy. We both townread him.
Fusco
Think this one is self-explanatory. I've brought up the other 'skitter townreads percy' points out of order to be with this one because it's the same point. Pretty sure skitter townread persivul. Unlikely that he kills her.
Post 602 - "wow so many posts but I have nothing to say" from fusco.
Fusco
Just a scummy post
Post 619 - makes a decent enough point about percy trusting me too much.
Titus
Town should have some sort of paranoia when someone townreads them strongly in the beginning of the game.
Post 711 - dislike this.
Fusco
This post was scummy to me because it feels like a way to low-key discredit all reads.
823 - fusco claims SK
Fusco
I tend to scumread stuff like this. A joke in RVS is sometimes scum-indicative. A joke scum claim like this deep in the middle of day 1 just pings me hard.
Ed of pg.34 - feels like a fake reaction
Fusco
Self-explanatory I think.
Pg.35 - insane overreaction
Fusco
Regardless of fusco's alignment this is AtE so I won't comment on it much. But it's way over the top that it honestly feels fake.
919 - I feel like he's not likely talking about a scum buddy. With the assumption that people are at least vaguely aware of what their buddies are posting.
Fusco
I know PP showed a lot of not giving a shit attitude to this game, but I don't think he'd put so little effort he doesn't at least read his buddy's posts. And I don't think he loes about not reading just for WIFOM.
936 - not much of a read... distancing?
Titus
Roster throws some weak hedgy scumread on persivul without voting or pushing. Partnery.
986 - hmmmmmm
I don't know what this indicates honestly but feel like it might be significant. Thoughts?
989 - is kind of weak reasoning.. and what's up with that comment about our slot.. still mad at tw for calling him scum?!
Like also I was aggresively townreading percy the only person he has bothered to case at that point and he comes to the same conclusion but doesn't trust us
991 - tw picked up on the same thing.
Fusco
I don't think this should be ignored. Fusco pretty openly leaning town for persivul. I get that PoE forces quick read changes sometimes but it's interesting that he quickly scumread titus when it became clear he needs him dead.
I dunno that point is very WIFOMY. The thing that really stands out here is the contradiction of how he townreads who I was townreading but doesn't trust us or address this internal conflict in any way.
1019 - would scum write off both creature and skitter as town. In a playerlist with lurkers and unknowns no less?
Add shoshin to that
Pocketing for the long game?
He then reps out though
Seems dangerous to townread those 3 in particular if he's scum
Alternatively - persy tunnelled the f out of me when he thought I was scum in another game.. didn't show as much flexibility to learn my alignment but then again we barely know each other and I have stated I dislike him publicly so it could be a personal thing?
Fusco
As you can see the WIFOM of it all is making my head spin, but overall I think this points to town!persivul.
Pg.45 - Fusco keeps thinking (this post isn't the first time I think) he'll be NK'd for some reason which seems really weird
Fusco
Not a lot of peoole have really townread him and he kinda lurked for a while back then in day 1. Why would he think he'd be NK'd?
1159 - no mention of roster or PP. Little weird if he's a partner. This one could be town-indicative.
Titus
This is not a full readlist but it still seems unlikely to not mention any of his partners if fusco is mafia.
1228 - not the first time percy posts something like this. Really townie at heart but he also hasn't been pushing people that much, really kind of passive about it
Like his thought processes and responses show someone paying very close attention and picking up on things
But if I were to point out the scumminess up to page 50 is he doesn't seem to have any offensive aggression .. no opinions he's pushing strongly. It's day 1 and could be a style thing though
Having mixed thoughts about this one. This goes kinda into meta. I don't have much experience with persivul to really say confidently. I kinda trust my gut at the time it happened though and in day 1 I was comfortable townreading Persivul.
1304 - roster says percy townspewed
Fusco
Not something I expect a scum to say about a partner. 'Spewed' in particular is kind of an interesting choice. Feels like scum who needed a way to join the percy is town group. But he was hedging earlier so maybe he wants to townbin a partner. It just really looks off when you look for associatives and I think he would have had that in his mind. Roster goes pretty hard when bussing and is no amateur to messing with associatives, I would be surprised if he haphazardly threw this out there if persivul is his partner.
1365 and 1368 - fake interaction between partners?
An activity argument seems like an easy way to fake disagreement.
1372 - "maybe you're pr" not something I expect a townie to say
Fusco
Self-explanatory.
1376 - raises a good point but gives fusco an out. Why?
We'll add this one to the point above and count it as one. Name it "a fake looking fight between roster and fusco
1404 - would be funny if fusco is scum and shot sky night 1
1435 - I don't think scum put both partners in a row here? There's the in the middle theory for T-S-T when it's 3 people but like don't think it applies to 2 scum in a list of 7
Titus
This one clears fusco but it's a pretty weak tell/not enough of a data sample to act on it alone.
1463/1464 - phantismo raises a strong point if it were singleball. It might still be valid in multiball. Of course, he's wrong on vorkuta so how much of his point is valid if it's only 3 townies on the wagon?
Titus
But he was wrong on his assumptions. I don't know if he will still be scumreading percy if he were alive.
Pg. 60 - PP opens the thread to see a large wagon forming on him, votes percy who has votes on him, but really goes back to chemist
That implicates percy actually
Titus.
Feels like a bad attempt to distance/if both were town why would he feel the need to pick chemist/percy? Did he think chemist had a better chance of being lynch. It is true, and chemist did in fact get lynched so I dunno.
1499 - I hate this vote
Fusco
I'm weird maybe but when someone's vote looks particularly showy.. it doesn't feel genuine to me.
1530 - phantismo softens to idea of town!percy and considers scum!skitter
1532 - if he's right fusco has to be scum to make it 2.
Fusco
When one of the biggest pushers of scum!percy starts to lean the other way.. it's not a good indicator for Fusco.
1535/36 - really scummy
Below you will see other examples of similar posting.
1538 - "I'm so totally not bussing" (or I'm tunnelled
)
Fusco
I'm tunnelled. But I think I'm right.
1544 - would he really not mention a single buddy here? Especially one who was bussing. The crossbuss is necessary
Points to fusco being a partner.
1551 - see example of scum placing their partner among the scummy voters
1591 - makes me wish percy was also on the wagon so I can compare roster's reaction to both fusco and percy. It's multiball and one of the partners is already being bussed, I kinda think roster is forced to townread his remaining buddy here hence the random wagon analysis he comes up with
I feel like this implicates Fusco heavily but whatever I'll chalk it up to roster confusing us deliberately.
1608 - do people say that about their buddy?
Do you think persivul is faking this reaction to PP not getting hammered?
1658 - so just jumping on the popular wagon each time.
Fusco
See above when he put PP at L-2.
1691 - this doesn't feel like a buss.
Fusco
Feels like someone trying to sort PP for real.
1696 - if roster react to this strongly it heavily implicates fusco I think
Because roster had written him off as town when he analyzed PP wagon
Sadly roster never really reacted to this so it's NAI.
1717 - I need to know how well they know each other to analyze this.
I don't know if anyone knows how much shoshin and persivul know each other but would be good to know.
1760 - this is incredibly wifomy but I really don't think a buddy says this. He's already voting him, I think it's more likely he doesn't comment at all and let his buddy burn
1890 - you think irrel gets all 4 wrong here?
Fusco
I haven't had much respect for or faith in phantismo's reads this game, but to get all 4 of these wrong would be reeeally weird. Irrel is far better than a 0% accurate gamesolve read.
Pg. 77 - horrible shade of irrel by fusco
Fusco
1990 - It's hard to imagine that scum!Percy's last actions were a vote as soon as A50 reps into his p's slot, and then repping out for his joining the game. If it's to distance it's kinda meh ethically, and tbh not a good way to do it because it's pretty obvious.
I don't really know what more to say about this. Even using to townread persivul feels icky. But it happened and like I'd be lying if I said it hasn't had any impact at all on my read.
2007 - ducky is awesome <3
2016 - this new meta of creature where he goes inactive comes back and says "no votes on me, boring" is getting real old
This is just @creature. I'm a little disappointed in you.
Bottom of pg.81 - why would fusco ask about townreads not scumreads? Particularly when we have mafia and wolf flips and can hunt for associatives. He wants people's townreads instead?!
This is just weird. It might be too subjective of a tell but it's a really weird way to look at and try to sort the game imo.
2040 - A50 throws some offhanded shade on percy's slot. Distancing or trying to break up some townreads?
2052 - again this just seems weird if they're partners. The slot was already voting A50 for personal reasons, now titus is doing what I can only assume is am RVS vote (which is redundant) for what? To distance? A little too on the nose.
Fusco
Pg. 83 - good for teasing phantismo post-game
I almost want to vote titus out of pity for irrel
He spent so much energy on a scum!percy case
But pretty much all of it depended on that slot being wolf with skitter
Pg. 97 - A50 talks to / comments on fusco posts a lot more than titus, almost ignoring titus.
A50 sort of nullreads the titus slot while titus sort of scumreads A50
Fusco gives me a very fencesitty vibe around these pages
2416 - like on the surface a post like that doesn't sound like something you say to a partner but this is A50
And not just A50, but A50 playing a game with me and other people who know him
Like the interactions sort of remind me of his interactions with me when we rolled scum together
But again I'm sort of wary that I'm biased
Like I hate second guessing myself in the late game because I feel that reads that are established earlier in the game are more accurate with the exception of info based/mechanical/pov reads
And when it comes to blurry slots where it's really not obvious which is which, my historical reads tell me I should trust the early pings more often than not
There's probably a good reason for that, because scum have a much clearer game plan near the end of the game. They know who they have to associate with, who to pocket, who to mislynch etc. Which allows for more paranoia to creep into townies
Like someone reps into a scum slot, and the poe of town is shrinking I think they immediately form a strategy on how to deal with their partner
Either bus and try to deepwolf or establish your p as deepwolf.
Or you distance
And since a50 didn't really push either, he's going for distancing, in which case fusco looks more suspicious
2471 -
Does town fusco shade us pre-dunn flip?
2483 - hmmmm .. "if" titus is mafia
Generally this post pings me as the sort to make when talking about a buddy. But maybe A50 wanted to lay the groundwork to push town!titus if he didn't like her VCA??
I'd put this is as a point against titus.
Titus
2494 desn't seem fake
Fusco
Good reaction from titus tbh. Not giving anything away if she's a partner.
Pg. 100 - basically A50 hammers in the idea that titus should VCA to catch the wolf.
Doesn't feel like a buddy interaction but without daytalk,,, maybe??
2516 - quoting possible associations between HIMSELF and flipped traitor. Who does that??
Fusco
This just pinged me as scummy. Like a weird reverse psychology thing where he points out how scummy he might look before anyone else can.
2546 - so now after the A50 flip we know he was lying because he did or his team did in fact shoot vork.
Is A50 trying to spew titus town with all his I'm waiting for VCA or is he pocketing her?
I have no answer to this. It is a big part of A50's ISO. It's important but it could go either way.
A50 will bus. Probably more often than not. But how? The how is not going to be the same each game. I've tried not to read too much into A50's associatives as he is 100% intending to confuse us.
2560 - does scum clear a slot like dave so close to endgame?
2574 - doesn't serve mafia agenda to say this. They want to find wolf. Maybe she lies to make it sound organic but why not just come up with a suspect or final list once she's finished, instead of looking like she might not get results
Fusco.
I agree with fusco that Titus can easily shape the narrative as she likes. But that involves making choices. Making choices on who to townread and who to place in a PoE etc.. and these decisions matter a whole lot in the endgame when you need to sow mistrust among town.
2715 - dave thinks titus is obvscum
Left alive for the read or for wifom?
2716 - fusco is not mafia in any of A50's scenarios. I find it rather unlikely A50 doesn't set up for a potential buss, especially since when we were wolves together in jungle republic he kept pushing me as wolf. Also he called other people mate in that game but not me. Let me find the 'mate' instances here it may or not be significant
Just 1 mate on fusco
Well that conflicts Jungle republic but the 2nd tell is more of a passing thought I wouldn't take it seriously
So this would indicate titus is scum unless A50 chose to mess with me specifically (which is quite possible)
We are alive after all and he has been pockety towards our slot.
Titus
This one is not quite 50-50 maybe 60-40 in favor of town!fusco. But like I said reading into A50 interactions is a rabbit hole especially for me personally when A50 will be specifically thinking about my reaction to his posts.
2724 - not an official VC but Do scum double down on the same wagon here?
I'm not sure here. My instinct is to say no, but to be fair if titus is the buddy does A50 risk titus getting hammered?
2733 - okay I really don't think A50 uses this sort of out of thread logic just to buss/distance. Probably a way for him to fake a case on a townie he wants to mislynch later instead of talking about titus' actual content
2753 - creature thinks titus is not!mafia..
2758/59 - fusco has done this sort of thing multiple times. Call out/shade some reasoning and agree with it at the same time
2761 - dave strongly disagrees with creature wrt titus
Fusco
These all look bad for fusco given who died etc.
3060 - this just feels off
Like he's making a big show out of voting fusco
A50 trying to mess with us again. Really wants this vote to stand out though. why? WHYYY?
Pg. 18 - decides dave was awkward and percy is townish And votes dave.
Fusco
This one is a little tricky. I think if he didn't vote either of them and just threw out that shade I'd think one of them is scum. With him voting dave I'm leaning town for percy. I went back and forth on this one though it just feels too mild to be distancing, people tend to try to make it kinda obvious that they "scumread" their partner.
Pg. 18 - skitter's initial explanations for the percy read after percy calls her out. Unclear if it's genuine SR or she believes he's town
Post 455 - does skitter fake a disagreement with partner over a read if she genuinenly believes it to be scum? If the point is to get credit for lynching scum wouldn't they both want to lynch there?
Pg. 40 - skitter who has lost the percy scumread is scumreading fusco now. Killed for her reads?
On the other hand we have shoshin scumreading percy and townreading fusco
Specifically if both aren't scum together then fusco is town
Though skitter was killed by mafia shoshin by wolves
Pg. 51 - since skitter started townreading percy she's just been more and more sure of it and kept repeating it. Hard to see why mafia killed her when roster and PP were barely mentioned by her day 1
1470 - pretty sure this is genuine from skitter and she has played with scum percy. I have played with town percy. We both townread him.
Fusco
Think this one is self-explanatory. I've brought up the other 'skitter townreads percy' points out of order to be with this one because it's the same point. Pretty sure skitter townread persivul. Unlikely that he kills her.
Post 602 - "wow so many posts but I have nothing to say" from fusco.
Fusco
Just a scummy post
Post 619 - makes a decent enough point about percy trusting me too much.
Titus
Town should have some sort of paranoia when someone townreads them strongly in the beginning of the game.
Post 711 - dislike this.
Fusco
This post was scummy to me because it feels like a way to low-key discredit all reads.
823 - fusco claims SK
Fusco
I tend to scumread stuff like this. A joke in RVS is sometimes scum-indicative. A joke scum claim like this deep in the middle of day 1 just pings me hard.
Ed of pg.34 - feels like a fake reaction
Fusco
Self-explanatory I think.
Pg.35 - insane overreaction
Fusco
Regardless of fusco's alignment this is AtE so I won't comment on it much. But it's way over the top that it honestly feels fake.
919 - I feel like he's not likely talking about a scum buddy. With the assumption that people are at least vaguely aware of what their buddies are posting.
Fusco
I know PP showed a lot of not giving a shit attitude to this game, but I don't think he'd put so little effort he doesn't at least read his buddy's posts. And I don't think he loes about not reading just for WIFOM.
936 - not much of a read... distancing?
Titus
Roster throws some weak hedgy scumread on persivul without voting or pushing. Partnery.
986 - hmmmmmm
I don't know what this indicates honestly but feel like it might be significant. Thoughts?
989 - is kind of weak reasoning.. and what's up with that comment about our slot.. still mad at tw for calling him scum?!
Like also I was aggresively townreading percy the only person he has bothered to case at that point and he comes to the same conclusion but doesn't trust us
991 - tw picked up on the same thing.
Fusco
I don't think this should be ignored. Fusco pretty openly leaning town for persivul. I get that PoE forces quick read changes sometimes but it's interesting that he quickly scumread titus when it became clear he needs him dead.
I dunno that point is very WIFOMY. The thing that really stands out here is the contradiction of how he townreads who I was townreading but doesn't trust us or address this internal conflict in any way.
1019 - would scum write off both creature and skitter as town. In a playerlist with lurkers and unknowns no less?
Add shoshin to that
Pocketing for the long game?
He then reps out though
Seems dangerous to townread those 3 in particular if he's scum
Alternatively - persy tunnelled the f out of me when he thought I was scum in another game.. didn't show as much flexibility to learn my alignment but then again we barely know each other and I have stated I dislike him publicly so it could be a personal thing?
Fusco
As you can see the WIFOM of it all is making my head spin, but overall I think this points to town!persivul.
Pg.45 - Fusco keeps thinking (this post isn't the first time I think) he'll be NK'd for some reason which seems really weird
Fusco
Not a lot of peoole have really townread him and he kinda lurked for a while back then in day 1. Why would he think he'd be NK'd?
1159 - no mention of roster or PP. Little weird if he's a partner. This one could be town-indicative.
Titus
This is not a full readlist but it still seems unlikely to not mention any of his partners if fusco is mafia.
1228 - not the first time percy posts something like this. Really townie at heart but he also hasn't been pushing people that much, really kind of passive about it
Like his thought processes and responses show someone paying very close attention and picking up on things
But if I were to point out the scumminess up to page 50 is he doesn't seem to have any offensive aggression .. no opinions he's pushing strongly. It's day 1 and could be a style thing though
Having mixed thoughts about this one. This goes kinda into meta. I don't have much experience with persivul to really say confidently. I kinda trust my gut at the time it happened though and in day 1 I was comfortable townreading Persivul.
1304 - roster says percy townspewed
Fusco
Not something I expect a scum to say about a partner. 'Spewed' in particular is kind of an interesting choice. Feels like scum who needed a way to join the percy is town group. But he was hedging earlier so maybe he wants to townbin a partner. It just really looks off when you look for associatives and I think he would have had that in his mind. Roster goes pretty hard when bussing and is no amateur to messing with associatives, I would be surprised if he haphazardly threw this out there if persivul is his partner.
1365 and 1368 - fake interaction between partners?
An activity argument seems like an easy way to fake disagreement.
1372 - "maybe you're pr" not something I expect a townie to say
Fusco
Self-explanatory.
1376 - raises a good point but gives fusco an out. Why?
We'll add this one to the point above and count it as one. Name it "a fake looking fight between roster and fusco
1404 - would be funny if fusco is scum and shot sky night 1
1435 - I don't think scum put both partners in a row here? There's the in the middle theory for T-S-T when it's 3 people but like don't think it applies to 2 scum in a list of 7
Titus
This one clears fusco but it's a pretty weak tell/not enough of a data sample to act on it alone.
1463/1464 - phantismo raises a strong point if it were singleball. It might still be valid in multiball. Of course, he's wrong on vorkuta so how much of his point is valid if it's only 3 townies on the wagon?
Titus
But he was wrong on his assumptions. I don't know if he will still be scumreading percy if he were alive.
Pg. 60 - PP opens the thread to see a large wagon forming on him, votes percy who has votes on him, but really goes back to chemist
That implicates percy actually
Titus.
Feels like a bad attempt to distance/if both were town why would he feel the need to pick chemist/percy? Did he think chemist had a better chance of being lynch. It is true, and chemist did in fact get lynched so I dunno.
1499 - I hate this vote
Fusco
I'm weird maybe but when someone's vote looks particularly showy.. it doesn't feel genuine to me.
1530 - phantismo softens to idea of town!percy and considers scum!skitter
1532 - if he's right fusco has to be scum to make it 2.
Fusco
When one of the biggest pushers of scum!percy starts to lean the other way.. it's not a good indicator for Fusco.
1535/36 - really scummy
Below you will see other examples of similar posting.
1538 - "I'm so totally not bussing" (or I'm tunnelled
) Fusco
I'm tunnelled. But I think I'm right.
1544 - would he really not mention a single buddy here? Especially one who was bussing. The crossbuss is necessary
Points to fusco being a partner.
1551 - see example of scum placing their partner among the scummy voters
1591 - makes me wish percy was also on the wagon so I can compare roster's reaction to both fusco and percy. It's multiball and one of the partners is already being bussed, I kinda think roster is forced to townread his remaining buddy here hence the random wagon analysis he comes up with
I feel like this implicates Fusco heavily but whatever I'll chalk it up to roster confusing us deliberately.
1608 - do people say that about their buddy?
Do you think persivul is faking this reaction to PP not getting hammered?
1658 - so just jumping on the popular wagon each time.
Fusco
See above when he put PP at L-2.
1691 - this doesn't feel like a buss.
Fusco
Feels like someone trying to sort PP for real.
1696 - if roster react to this strongly it heavily implicates fusco I think
Because roster had written him off as town when he analyzed PP wagon
Sadly roster never really reacted to this so it's NAI.
1717 - I need to know how well they know each other to analyze this.
I don't know if anyone knows how much shoshin and persivul know each other but would be good to know.
1760 - this is incredibly wifomy but I really don't think a buddy says this. He's already voting him, I think it's more likely he doesn't comment at all and let his buddy burn
1890 - you think irrel gets all 4 wrong here?
Fusco
I haven't had much respect for or faith in phantismo's reads this game, but to get all 4 of these wrong would be reeeally weird. Irrel is far better than a 0% accurate gamesolve read.
Pg. 77 - horrible shade of irrel by fusco
Fusco
1990 - It's hard to imagine that scum!Percy's last actions were a vote as soon as A50 reps into his p's slot, and then repping out for his joining the game. If it's to distance it's kinda meh ethically, and tbh not a good way to do it because it's pretty obvious.
I don't really know what more to say about this. Even using to townread persivul feels icky. But it happened and like I'd be lying if I said it hasn't had any impact at all on my read.
2007 - ducky is awesome <3
2016 - this new meta of creature where he goes inactive comes back and says "no votes on me, boring" is getting real old
This is just @creature. I'm a little disappointed in you.
Bottom of pg.81 - why would fusco ask about townreads not scumreads? Particularly when we have mafia and wolf flips and can hunt for associatives. He wants people's townreads instead?!
This is just weird. It might be too subjective of a tell but it's a really weird way to look at and try to sort the game imo.
2040 - A50 throws some offhanded shade on percy's slot. Distancing or trying to break up some townreads?
2052 - again this just seems weird if they're partners. The slot was already voting A50 for personal reasons, now titus is doing what I can only assume is am RVS vote (which is redundant) for what? To distance? A little too on the nose.
Fusco
Pg. 83 - good for teasing phantismo post-game
I almost want to vote titus out of pity for irrel
He spent so much energy on a scum!percy case
But pretty much all of it depended on that slot being wolf with skitter
Pg. 97 - A50 talks to / comments on fusco posts a lot more than titus, almost ignoring titus.
A50 sort of nullreads the titus slot while titus sort of scumreads A50
Fusco gives me a very fencesitty vibe around these pages
2416 - like on the surface a post like that doesn't sound like something you say to a partner but this is A50
And not just A50, but A50 playing a game with me and other people who know him
Like the interactions sort of remind me of his interactions with me when we rolled scum together
But again I'm sort of wary that I'm biased
Like I hate second guessing myself in the late game because I feel that reads that are established earlier in the game are more accurate with the exception of info based/mechanical/pov reads
And when it comes to blurry slots where it's really not obvious which is which, my historical reads tell me I should trust the early pings more often than not
There's probably a good reason for that, because scum have a much clearer game plan near the end of the game. They know who they have to associate with, who to pocket, who to mislynch etc. Which allows for more paranoia to creep into townies
Like someone reps into a scum slot, and the poe of town is shrinking I think they immediately form a strategy on how to deal with their partner
Either bus and try to deepwolf or establish your p as deepwolf.
Or you distance
And since a50 didn't really push either, he's going for distancing, in which case fusco looks more suspicious
2471 -
Does town fusco shade us pre-dunn flip?
2483 - hmmmm .. "if" titus is mafia
Generally this post pings me as the sort to make when talking about a buddy. But maybe A50 wanted to lay the groundwork to push town!titus if he didn't like her VCA??
I'd put this is as a point against titus.
Titus
2494 desn't seem fake
Fusco
Good reaction from titus tbh. Not giving anything away if she's a partner.
Pg. 100 - basically A50 hammers in the idea that titus should VCA to catch the wolf.
Doesn't feel like a buddy interaction but without daytalk,,, maybe??
2516 - quoting possible associations between HIMSELF and flipped traitor. Who does that??
Fusco
This just pinged me as scummy. Like a weird reverse psychology thing where he points out how scummy he might look before anyone else can.
2546 - so now after the A50 flip we know he was lying because he did or his team did in fact shoot vork.
Is A50 trying to spew titus town with all his I'm waiting for VCA or is he pocketing her?
I have no answer to this. It is a big part of A50's ISO. It's important but it could go either way.
A50 will bus. Probably more often than not. But how? The how is not going to be the same each game. I've tried not to read too much into A50's associatives as he is 100% intending to confuse us.
2560 - does scum clear a slot like dave so close to endgame?
2574 - doesn't serve mafia agenda to say this. They want to find wolf. Maybe she lies to make it sound organic but why not just come up with a suspect or final list once she's finished, instead of looking like she might not get results
Fusco.
I agree with fusco that Titus can easily shape the narrative as she likes. But that involves making choices. Making choices on who to townread and who to place in a PoE etc.. and these decisions matter a whole lot in the endgame when you need to sow mistrust among town.
2715 - dave thinks titus is obvscum
Left alive for the read or for wifom?
2716 - fusco is not mafia in any of A50's scenarios. I find it rather unlikely A50 doesn't set up for a potential buss, especially since when we were wolves together in jungle republic he kept pushing me as wolf. Also he called other people mate in that game but not me. Let me find the 'mate' instances here it may or not be significant
Just 1 mate on fusco
Well that conflicts Jungle republic but the 2nd tell is more of a passing thought I wouldn't take it seriously
So this would indicate titus is scum unless A50 chose to mess with me specifically (which is quite possible)
We are alive after all and he has been pockety towards our slot.
Titus
This one is not quite 50-50 maybe 60-40 in favor of town!fusco. But like I said reading into A50 interactions is a rabbit hole especially for me personally when A50 will be specifically thinking about my reaction to his posts.
2724 - not an official VC but Do scum double down on the same wagon here?
I'm not sure here. My instinct is to say no, but to be fair if titus is the buddy does A50 risk titus getting hammered?
2733 - okay I really don't think A50 uses this sort of out of thread logic just to buss/distance. Probably a way for him to fake a case on a townie he wants to mislynch later instead of talking about titus' actual content
2753 - creature thinks titus is not!mafia..
2758/59 - fusco has done this sort of thing multiple times. Call out/shade some reasoning and agree with it at the same time
2761 - dave strongly disagrees with creature wrt titus
Fusco
These all look bad for fusco given who died etc.
3060 - this just feels off
Like he's making a big show out of voting fusco
A50 trying to mess with us again. Really wants this vote to stand out though. why? WHYYY?
Fusco - 25
Titus - 6
Let's discuss when you see this dave.
But I'll place my vote just in case deadline comes.
VOTE: fuscosco
