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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:44 am
by Rainn
In post 774, Dunnstral wrote:This is a wagon I won't be letting happen today :/
Uhh...I think I would have kind of noticed you guys were probably masons here...

maybe I should read the game before posting²

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:46 am
by Almost50
In post 3172, Rautherdir wrote:(And yeah, they would have either had to have started the game with the upkeep or have used a role during day 1 somehow for the upkeep to hit them night 1)
I don't get this. Can you please explain more?

Note: My point is if he used a day action with an upkeep then he started the game with serum as well. That's the part that's confusing me.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:48 am
by Rainn
Maybe it's something like...Primate/Cloiud/MariaR/Wheme.

That's more or less where I'm at right now at least.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:51 am
by Rautherdir
and the surrounding conversation. It isn't a firm town read, but basically I'm content sheeping Sakura's read on CloudKicker for now.

p-edit:
If he used a day action then he's scum that used a factional ability or something of that nature to get serum early. It is a possibility but not one you would claim.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:57 am
by Rainn
Maybe we should start up the party with this

VOTE: primate

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:59 am
by Almost50
You do realize Cloud is voting Primate, right? (This is NOT an argument for Primate. It's actually in Cloud's defence)

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:00 pm
by Rainn
I do realize that he is pretty quick on his feet to vote primate out of nowhere, yes.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:00 pm
by Almost50
VOTE: Primate

To me it's Primate, Oversoul & Chemist as the main suspects. I am not sure who is their 4th

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:01 pm
by Bambi Jay
The monkey turns on a monkey. Shocker.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:01 pm
by Rainn
I do also realize that Chemist in his catch-up, after supposedly reading 400 posts, only quoted one of primate's posts and that's kind of "huh".

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:06 pm
by Rainn
Actually it seems like we've some 80% chance of either Oversoul or Cloud being scum btw.

This is who was on the unwnd's wagon:

Dunnstral 802, Bambi Jay 877, PenguinPower 1278, Fred the Cat 1319, Rautherdir 1620, Almost50 1706, Celestial Coordinates 1816, Sakura Hana 1831, Cloudkicker 1834, unwnd 1841

All of those people have been "cleared" more or less for:

Dunn and Rauth as masons.

Bambi as 3rd party.

Penguim and A50 as..."he's a wasted lynch" (PR soft)

CC died.

Sakura...is pretty towny already imo.

Therefore the unique remaining person that gained serum yesterday and apparently had the power to turn anyone into a miller was....

Cloud?

By the way my scum read on him happened before I realized this.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:07 pm
by Rainn
Oversoul, I want you to confirm with the mod wheter what happened to you can be an event or not.

if it's not possible I would like for you to take a stance on if what happened to you could be an event or not.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:09 pm
by Bambi Jay
Or they gambitted Dunn was legit a Miller and fucked up the Goo claim?

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:12 pm
by Almost50

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:12 pm
by Rainn
Uh, I'm not taking the possibility of them both being scum out of the table bambi

I'm just saying that the chances that at least one of them is scum, is considerably high right now.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:25 pm
by Rainn
The more I read CK mid-day 1 posts with the wagons going on, the more confident I become that he is simotech. Explanations later (soon).

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:31 pm
by MariaR
User 1 and User 16 wagons are fine by me

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:34 pm
by Rainn
I think today is pretty much bound to be about Primate/Oversoul/Cloud as of now.

Maybe there's the logic of a fake soft claim but it doesn't look like that right now and we can leave sorting out those claims in the massclaim down on the road.

I would rather finish reading the game and hear from them before choosing which one to vote.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:42 pm
by Rainn
In post 1032, Primate wrote:I was scum with him fork and he was fairly lurky. This game he's a bit lurky too
but he's more useful
, and if you factor in lurkiness and just assume he's a lurky player it's not particularly objectionable. A scumread would be nice, coming in and saying that you think the two biggest wagons are town is a bit like something a scum would do, but it's only two reads, he could believe it.
Note that Chemist had...really not done anything worth of being called "useful".

Primate just can't give a straight answer to it and this commentary about such a hard lurker slot comes more likely from scum than town.

If I had to guess even more, I would say that it's scum!Primate that knows Chemist is town. But not sure.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:03 pm
by Rainn
In post 1155, CloudKicker wrote:I wont flip since i have never been lynched as town ;)
The problem is I don't think you're town at all but if you're...

maybe...

"We're about to end this whole man career".
In post 1156, Bambi Jay wrote: Could've sworn I said earlier something about tempting fate...
I knew I could count on you.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:07 pm
by Rainn
In post 1178, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1173, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1171, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1170, Celestial Coordinates wrote:I haven't dismissed anyone or anything. Like I said, there are a lot of uncertain slots that could be scum.

But I'm confident that my lynch order kills enough of the scum early to give us enough serum to make the rest of the game easy.
Nah, my scum ability is to reset serum for everyone, since im 3rd in line thats, your above statement is untrue :/
Why did you start trolling and claiming scum?
Because Its entertaining, which is the reason why I play this game to begin with. RC being wrong w/ his ego bigger than my balls when kidamn’s gf is unavailable is entertaining, so pushing the situation is funny
In post 1182, CloudKicker wrote:I have always enjoyed making snide comments about your ego and you arent a saint either

About Gamma, I think I have been more wrong than correct on him with all the games we played, as either alignement. I feel like hes town but that read is always on hold considering my poor stats w/ him

About uwnd, im like ??? I already outed my reads on him, he had good posts I dont think comes from scum, yet shat the bed a few times, imo hes mediocre town read-wise which is basically everyone

Fred its w/e, I need more content and that is disregarding his activity meta

So no I don’t really think its solved
I don't dislike these posts.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:08 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3135, Bambi Jay wrote:
Spoiler: Reaction to Oversoul
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Huh?

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:30 pm
by Rainn
Page 60.

I do have a less negative view on CK but not really that much difference from my original one.

Before I could only see his posts coming more likely from scum than town.

Now he has some posts that maybe comes more likely from town to scum, but I'm not convinced.

It's not a simply matter of reads anymore though, the serum logic points out to either Cloud or Oversoul, although maybe there's a loophole we aren't paying attention to.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:34 pm
by Sakura Hana
In post 92, Rautherdir wrote:Want to claim masons with me instead?
This is a weird way to "claim masons" tho.
In post 3175, Rainn wrote:
In post 774, Dunnstral wrote:This is a wagon I won't be letting happen today :/
Uhh...I think I would have kind of noticed you guys were probably masons here...

maybe I should read the game before posting²
Ok that actually makes sense if they are actually truly masons.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:35 pm
by Sakura Hana
Also hi Rainn.
No, i wasnt Millerized, i was fired from my company.
Yes, we're spefically told if it's a Night Action, and OS confirmed it was one.