In post 3113, Titus wrote:@Bell, if you're town, you should take the task. Objectively, everyone has tasks to do. There's no harm in recycling A's task. If you're scum, it auto completes.
the task was already taken though
Who took the task?
Reck claimed he did, although we don't know for sure of course.
prods all round? no hint of scum counter-wagonning to Bell by the looks of it.
Are you sure it’s not a wagon stalled on scum and they’re either bussing or struggling to find an alternative?
why are you asking if I'm sure? how could i be "sure"? I'll give you my opinion - the former is more likely than the latter. but i'd say probably neither.
do you have an opinion of your own?
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:25 pm
by Taly
oh shit forgot the prods are turbo
ill post tomorrow
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:03 pm
by Flea The Magician
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:37 pm
by Blitzo
Still sick unfortunately. Mostly just checking in at this point.
I didn't really see much to comment on in the brief skim of things that I missed, which was only like 1 or 2 pages.
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:48 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I think we just hammer here, or at least let’s work out a plan and then do that.
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:13 pm
by Thestatusquo
Maestro has been prodded
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:35 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 3164, SirCakez wrote:ok...
Reck why the sudden move to Haschel? if you can find a way to somehow indicate an explanation
In post 3113, Titus wrote:@Bell, if you're town, you should take the task. Objectively, everyone has tasks to do. There's no harm in recycling A's task. If you're scum, it auto completes.
the task
was already taken though
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:17 pm
by SirCakez
ok but you took the task
so I don't see how Bell is cleared here?
In post 3113, Titus wrote:@Bell, if you're town, you should take the task. Objectively, everyone has tasks to do. There's no harm in recycling A's task. If you're scum, it auto completes.
In post 3113, Titus wrote:@Bell, if you're town, you should take the task. Objectively, everyone has tasks to do. There's no harm in recycling A's task. If you're scum, it auto completes.
In post 3113, Titus wrote:@Bell, if you're town, you should take the task. Objectively, everyone has tasks to do. There's no harm in recycling A's task. If you're scum, it auto completes.
is that they're playing similar to an instance I know of them to be scum. I cannot elaborate, but they haven't responded much to the points onto them, their reads aren't too fleshed out, and they were quite inoffensive D1 and haven't outlined many unique opinions of the game. I don't know what their baseline is, so my reasoning in this basis is weak, but I think
Titus
knows something I don't and I trust that.
If you had to wagon 2 more people right now, who would they be? I think you voted
Blitzo
recently but I'm still not seeing much detail to your thoughts there aside from painting their posts as OMGUSy or WIFOM-based. I don't entirely disagree, but I want more thought than that.[/color]
In post 3113, Titus wrote:@Bell, if you're town, you should take the task. Objectively, everyone has tasks to do. There's no harm in recycling A's task. If you're scum, it auto completes.
the task
was already taken though
why would the task make you switch to
HC
?
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:47 pm
by Gamma Emerald
that doesn't even make sense. "the task is HC"? WHAT???
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:48 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 8, Gamma Emerald wrote:Alright. I wanna start off with an RQS this game. Questions
are
as follows:
1) what power role have you not been that you want to try out, and why? Don’t factor in your current role, answer this question assuming you are vanilla this game.
2) If you were scum, who would be your a) D1 miselim push, b) N1 kill, and c) partner you’d want to bus you and go to the end, given each person was the correct alignment for that specific action?
3) What is your skill with mechanic-heavy setups? If you’re not skilled at them, do you intend to get better with practice or rely on others?
4) What is your favorite candy?
5) What would you say is your biggest strength and biggest weakness as town/scum/in general?
My answers:
1) I kinda want to be a Motion Detector once. It seems like an interesting role wrt using well.
2) I’d probably push Blitzo, kill Titus, and have Reck bus me.
3) I am decent with them, but don’t always keep the public information in my head like I should.
4) Sour Patch Fruits are my favorite but they’re hard to find, so Mike and Ike’s are my candy of choice most of the time.
5) I am good at sounding natural, but my charisma is lacking, in general.
In post 3078, Battle Mage wrote:i believe Titus could be town, pushing a mislim on Bell-town here. Which means maybe we're just on the wrong track.
Although I'm sympathetic to the idea we need to lim SOMEBODY, I also think a lazy mis-elim after 124 pages is dumb.
Where's the doubt coming from? The fact that
Titus'
argument could or is flawed, or that the gamestate doesn't make sense for town to lim scum?
My POV with
Bell
is that they're playing similar to an instance I know of them to be scum. I cannot elaborate, but they haven't responded much to the points onto them, their reads aren't too fleshed out, and they were quite inoffensive D1 and haven't outlined many
unique
opinions of the game. I don't know what their baseline is, so my reasoning in this basis is weak, but I think
Titus
knows something I don't and I trust that.
If you had to wagon 2 more people right now, who would they be? I think you voted
Blitzo
recently but I'm still not seeing much detail to your thoughts there aside from painting their posts as OMGUSy or WIFOM-based. I don't entirely disagree, but I want more thought than that.
town wins if we do all tasks
scum get one standard NK and one room kill
so if we just NK then we're losing two people each cycle to scum kills anyway
if it's on average 2 tasks per player, and we
have
17 people, assuming say 4 scum, that puts us at 13 crewmates aka roughly 26 tasks to complete
i assume each person can only complete one task per cycle? so if EVERYONE got their task done immediately, we could theoretically halve the number of tasks to do after one cycle?
this feels too easy. like scum have to have a way to fuck with tasks.
wait. of course they do. they have sabotages of some kind. i bet that's the mechanic we don't know yet. sabos will force people to go certain places and spend their time fixing sabotages instead of doing tasks.
- who feels like scum who is going along with/wants the massclaim plan
i'm about to head into a flurry of meetings so quoting this as something i want to respond to and not breeze past when i'm out
right so, i think titus is town. yes that's partially bc they defended me lightly. i am v susceptible to that. i also think GE is town just misguided.
flea's contributions and setup spec come from a similar place where mine does, so i think flea is probably town too?
these are all very early reads that will evolve
that would leave the scum on the "massclaim" wagon being somewhere among like... alisae, battlemage, murdercat, pooky, cakez, tgp? not all of them obvs but at least one IMO.
of those im probably the most sus of murdercat rn. the way they were like "lol we're giving scum too much info but eyyy it's ok" really rubbed me the wrong way. like if you're town and think this plan is bad, why are you passively agreeing to it/going along with it/not stopping it?
cakez is #2 for me bc of the way they're playing around the idea... like, cakez is on board and agreeing with the massclaim plan, but then simultaneously like, attacking gamma emerald for voting me for NOT going along with the plan. it looks like cakez could just be trying to stir shit up to make sure as many people as possible look sus but i don't think it's internally consistent logically.
akarin is actually pinging me as slightly scummy? i can't put my finger on it, so call it gut for now, but something ab the way she's contributing to the discussion seems very much like LAMIST and not actual mechsolving or scumhunting.
bell is also sitting in the scummy column for me rn. i read bell's posts about setup spec/mechs as someone who has extra info but is pretending they don't. i wish i could exactly explain it. just... the attitude/tone of the posts. it raised my eyebrow and hey it's something.
idk what dgb is doing. or taly.
outworlder came in and like, has v interesting interactions with cakez and murdercat and akarin, all of whom ping me as scum as well. so im either deep in the pocket of scum mindset or outworlder is coming at it from the same place i am (ie town)
somehow this response post became a wall of reads but gun to my head it's like
TOWN
titus, gammaem, flea, outworlder*
AT LEAST ONE SCUM
alisae, battlemage, murdercat, pooky, cakez, tgp
SOME BIG NULL PILE SOMEWHERE
dgb, taly, blitzo,
haschel
SCUMMY OUTSIDE OF MASSCLAIM BULLSHIT
murdercat, akarin, bell
so basically like over half the game is in my uh oh pile right now and i need to work on getting it down
In post 3113, Titus wrote:@Bell, if you're town, you should take the task. Objectively, everyone has tasks to do. There's no harm in recycling A's task. If you're scum, it auto completes.
no hint of scum counter-wagonning to Bell by the looks of it.
