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fwiw, i actually did go read iceland after the stuff you posted at me last night and didn't really see anything in that vein.

(i did not read your PT, though)

Heya i'm around for a bit but i dont have oodles of energy tonight

I think that this is the right thing to do here: VOTE: mom
I dont think she's town
I dont think anybody thinks she's town
I think she's just in everyone's scumpool but getting overlooked for whatever reason, and ime that's always the person i regret *not* flipping when i had the oppurtunity to do so

Heya prism, heya bork

~ skitter

In post 3111, Venus Fly Trap wrote:

In post 3104, Iverson wrote:Is there some silver bullet I am missing for why DC is town? In about ~12 minutes I am taking off for the day which means my vote will stay.

i don't think he approaches nm the way he does as scum; i don't think he comes into this game deciding to bus him. he was very, very, very resolutely for that push and refused multiple entreaties to divert the wagon off of nm.

I don't get the first part given that this setup incentivizes being aggressive against partners and it looks like he had prior experience to live up to/stay consistent with.

I don't know which wagon you're referring to here but Day 2 I did not see it as TvS and DC was basically a nonentity yesterday, at least from whenever I replaced in.

In post 3111, Venus Fly Trap wrote:

i also think that he isn't playing around me the way he would as scum - i.e. he isn't making all of his play *abt me*; he is very, very, very willing to be contrary to me and do whatever he likes no matter what i might think abt it.

i think scum-him basically tries to pocket me and tries to get on my good side and that usually manifests by making his reads match mine and trying to push my agenda. that isn't happenign here. he actually doesn't particularly care what i'm doing and isn't trying to match his play to mine. i think this is very +town for him

His positioning around you earlygame I felt was performatively contrarian precisely in the hopes of this, and 2181 he made a significant effort towards either getting on the same page or believing you were scum if he couldn't. Letting you have free rein for the sake of a pocket also doesn't work in this setup anyway.

skitter i am having trouble finding DC to be town for the reasons you think they are town

do you have solid examples of mena doing the stuff you posted about expecting him to do as scum?
do you have solid examples of him decidedly not doing that as town?

In post 3175, Kismet wrote:fwiw, i actually did go read iceland after the stuff you posted at me last night and didn't really see anything in that vein.

I, uh, yeah. Nothing in that vein, good job, no need to revisit.

I haven't eaten today and have instead cleared through like a month of P5R so I'm going to be honest the chance of me rereading atm is zero sorry I am very lightheaded but I am PRESENT

In post 3180, Iverson wrote:

In post 3175, Kismet wrote:fwiw, i actually did go read iceland after the stuff you posted at me last night and didn't really see anything in that vein.

I, uh, yeah. Nothing in that vein, good job, no need to revisit.

look man i just want to figure the game out and every time i think i'm getting close you'e dropping hints that i don't know what i'm doing

which, i mean, may be true, but it's just kinda turning me into a paranoid wreck

If you actually want me to go on an egoistic spiel about how it's totally not out of range I can but that summarizes it and we can skip it wow amazing ok go us

In post 3179, Kismet wrote:skitter i am having trouble finding DC to be town for the reasons you think they are town

do you have solid examples of mena doing the stuff you posted about expecting him to do as scum?
do you have solid examples of him decidedly not doing that as town?

one sec yes but i'm giving up on my phone and going to a computer
iverson i'll get to u too

i didn't say it was out of your range. infinity said that. I'm just playing probabilities of motivations as best i can

well even better glad we're on board if you want me to fully analyze a finished game so i can egostroke over joking about it and moving on maybe later

I never said anything was out of prism's range, I just don't think it makes much sense for him to play the way he has as scum.

i was making a quick joke can we stop

anyway

prism: dc over mom?

I can honestly go for either but I actively scumread DC

Momrangal I am literally just assuming she is scum because everyone else has been extremely town meanwhile Momrangal has not posted for essentially two full gamedays (I think they had like, 3 posts of commentary yesterday) and did not have anything in the first 25 pages that I found memorable

No one vote until I talk with ydrasse

that's basically where i am. i'm going to sort the DC thing out w/ skitter and then probably make a decision because i think we've probably hit the point where i won't get too much more out of this gameday.

p-edit: ok.

anyway i'm back on infinity town i don't think i ever vote there today.

notscience I felt a lot better as he engaged w/ Bulge and something earlier today iirc but his opening Day 2 was still all kinds of wack and idc if Skitter disagrees

I thought it was the Cakeman but it is time to Whip Out The Magnifying Glass instead of assuming notscience is a brick left on a keyboard

he implied he didn't have much time until tomorrow.

In post 3194, Kismet wrote:anyway i'm back on infinity town i don't think i ever vote there today.

proud of u

there's a small chance i'm wrong, the l+g interactions are fundamentally super subjective, but today has just been from infinity scum to where even if it's something i can envision i really don't even want to try

yep i agree

I know, I was making a reference to how I thought people weren't holding NM to a high enough standard (thinking he was a brick) whereas with notscience I was like "eh looks like he is vaguely sorting now" and called it a day