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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:24 am
by MathBlade
In post 3173, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3169, Scorpious wrote:
In post 3164, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3162, Nero Cain wrote:Why does April being an FL alt make you not want to vote there?
Because FL is good town.

It’s pretty much a free check if my Ari read was right depending upon who FL pushes and their alignment
This sucks.. there are so many non "this" game related variables here to call someone town.
I mean people used the same logic for both Skitter and VP and dats?. Though reputation=//=ability. All these players have more than two brain cells and most people with more than two brain cells can be "good"
That’s why you sort them by results.

We agree on a lot of our scum pool just not VP.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:25 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 3170, Nero Cain wrote:wrong. One doesn't necessarily need to read back to get reads and play.
You don't need to read back every post but a new player should at least be trying to gauge how the game has gone so far to deduce how likely their read based off one or two posts is to be correct. Otherwise I don't think their views counts for much, especially when we're on 3k posts.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:26 am
by VP Baltar
In post 3137, Nero Cain wrote:Datisi, VP Baltar, Eyes without a face, April Ludgate, Skitter

^
correct vote pool
You're starting to make me suspicious again. Are you actualky reading the day?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:28 am
by Yeet
In post 3166, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3095, Frogsterking wrote:Luminary are you pushing Malcolm now, what is happening?
I will say, Frogster's aloofness in this game is very different from his town play in the last game.

What's up with that Frog? You've seemed not super engaged with the flow of the game for awhile now.
Yeah, I think Frogster is being slept on after the very early game which felt kinda townie.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:28 am
by Yeet
I don’t Have a strong opinion on tenebro. Could be frustrated Town or AtE scum. I could see either. If I had to pick maybe slightly lean town because it’s a sort of believable frustration.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:30 am
by Nero Cain
In post 3177, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3137, Nero Cain wrote:Datisi, VP Baltar, Eyes without a face, April Ludgate, Skitter

^
correct vote pool
You're starting to make me suspicious again. Are you actualky reading the day?
i am. What's making you sus?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:39 am
by VP Baltar
In post 3180, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3177, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3137, Nero Cain wrote:Datisi, VP Baltar, Eyes without a face, April Ludgate, Skitter

^
correct vote pool
You're starting to make me suspicious again. Are you actualky reading the day?
i am. What's making you sus?
Because your reads are very static. This is essentially the same pool you stated overnight in the hood I believe. Feels very safe for you to camp on and take pot shots at considering no one seems to care all that much.


VOTE: frogster BTW.

Will do this iso today, but frog was like losing his mind going after people for all kinds of tinfoil shit our last game where he was town and this game he is barely a presence. Idgi

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:45 am
by Datisi
VOTE: frogster

not loving the fact that it feels like everyone and their mother is defending scorp, but let's see what happens here

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:51 am
by Yeet
VOTE: Frogster

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:51 am
by VP Baltar
In post 3182, Datisi wrote:VOTE: frogster

not loving the fact that it feels like everyone and their mother is defending scorp, but let's see what happens here
Vote scorp then? Why follow me?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:52 am
by MathBlade
Nah not feeling a Frogger wagon. They seem Townie to me
Someone wanna case Frogger?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:52 am
by Nero Cain
Do my reads have to change? Dats is doing the same shit that you did d1 and trying to manipulate me to vote Scorp. Eyes wasn't great yesterday and all we've gotten was a promise that he's going to do better today. Skitter voted a claimed vig that is claiming he was rbed then left. Maybe he's scum and that might make her town but ultimately I don't feel like what little she did today makes me want to hard town read her. April pushed Malcolm and that's all he/she has done today.

but are YOU reading b/c I've voted Enchant and given my thoughts on both Tene and Scorp.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:54 am
by Datisi
something something information gathering

his wagon is obviously not happening right now, so i'm prob not learning anything else from it

while i on first look don't like that his wagon is so dead, that's still a very surface level conclusion that i need to think about a bit more, and i can always come back to it if i want

pedit: @baltar

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:57 am
by VP Baltar
In post 3186, Nero Cain wrote:Do my reads have to change?
If town, then likely yes.

Everything in your post after this is bloat.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:00 am
by Nero Cain
Sorta think that town are the ones that will have stronger opinions and scum are the ones that wil be more open willing to change on the drop of a a hat-you know that you and dats

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:03 am
by Datisi
every time i have seen town and scum shoved into those two categories, i've seen them shoved into the opposite ones, so that's a curious post

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:05 am
by Nero Cain
examples?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:06 am
by VP Baltar
In post 3189, Nero Cain wrote:Sorta think that town are the ones that will have stronger opinions and scum are the ones that wil be more open willing to change on the drop of a a hat-you know that you and dats
Not true at all. Bad town of course will latch onto reads and death tunnel and conf bias, but scum feel obligated to create reasons to change reads. That's work. And people are lazy.

Anyhow, mafia theory debate isn't useful. If you're town, convince me why I should be voting skitter. Or Eyes for that reason. You're not doing that, as evidenced by the fact no one is following you.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:08 am
by Datisi
i've always seen town be described as the ones willing to jump around and change their mind, while scum are the ones that are overly worried with their image and trajectories and all that

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:09 am
by VP Baltar
April, why are you TR Cape again?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:12 am
by Nero Cain
In post 3192, VP Baltar wrote:You're not doing that, as evidenced by the fact no one is following you.
*shrug*

There have been plenty of times when I've gone after scum and haven't been sheeped. But you are the leading wagon so...

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:16 am
by MalcolmTucker
I've only played with Frogster once and while I won't rely on meta too much, they kinda played like this as town. Sudden flurry in votes is kinda interesting though. The slot could probably do with some pressure if nothing else since they've gotten an easy ride but wouldn't advocate for elimination right now.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:19 am
by MathBlade
Yeah I hate the sudden flurry with no case.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:20 am
by VP Baltar
In post 3195, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3192, VP Baltar wrote:You're not doing that, as evidenced by the fact no one is following you.
*shrug*

There have been plenty of times when I've gone after scum and haven't been sheeped. But you are the leading wagon so...
Getting me to be a minor ass wagon on D2 is about as hard as getting rid of free pizza. (Also, would argue you actually did almost nothing to get this wagon)

You think you're truly going to get me limmed today with some lazy vote campers?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:20 am
by Datisi
since when does there have to be a case to pressure someone?

"i can't remember a single scumread frogs has" is my case