I believe those are my only two scum games this past year, these are my town ones most recent where you could look at my activity for yourself and see.
All of the above with exception to dresden ran at same time as this game... I think there is another, somewhere... but you will see the activity levels are a concern in all games lately.
It does not matter that the people in your other game complained about your lack of activity. Even in your lack of activity, you still were more engaged in the game than here. You were still scumhunting and somewhat engaged in the game. Something that has been completely lacking here.
Saying you don't have a case so I can't defend against it is just bullshit. You've have back to back rolling v/la's and when you are here you comment on things that don't matter and aren't actually scumhunting.
If you're town, stop waiting for something to defend against, and be active. Try and figure out who the damn scum are. Claiming Camn is scum because she wants to lynch you right now because you're so inactive that noone can get any type of read on you isn't scum hunting. You know this. Camn might be scum but that isn't convincing, not when it's very very easy to see you as scum right now.
Right now, you look like coasting lurking scum. You haven't done anything, offered anything, helped at all.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:27 am
by Benmage
Woops, meant to post yesterday.. its been overwhelming returning to NY engaged. I'll try and post tonight.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:07 am
by camn
A meta defense is no defense at all.
Jason- What happened? You started out this game with good activity... then you lost a teammate and a traitor.... did your heart quail? What changed?
Be honest. Was it the size? The walls? the pretty summer days?
Or the loneliness in the QT?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:16 am
by Shaft
I'm creeped out by the shadow lurking going on this phase.
jason, how did you end up needing to make an EBWOP when you already linked to the Zac game in the previous post? In other words, help me understand how you criss crossed Team and Zac's mafia games.
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:22 am
by Shaft
Ben, I'm still not sure about your answer to my last question. Why would you throw out that I had time for a claim if my claim didn't matter, especially considering there were other viable lynches/VT claims? If doc isn't the end all be all, what is?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:55 pm
by DeasVail
There is some paranoia, but I'm still thinking Jason.
How do you think that matches up to your responses here.
Also, who are your top two scum reads and why?
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:14 am
by Cerulean
Kise - did you learn anything from looking through his games? And why are you suddenly interested in Jason's meta?
Camn - do you still suspect benmage? You wanted him put at l-1 yesterday, got your wish but jumped off because no counterwagon so you helped Ben rise the counterwagon to the reason you demanded people vote for. I don't think you've made a peep about benmage but started throwing suspicion dv's way and Jason's. I also don't think you responded to our dv town reasoning. Who do you actually suspect?
Jason- What happened? You started out this game with good activity... then you lost a teammate and a traitor.... did your heart quail? What changed?
Be honest. Was it the size? The walls? the pretty summer days?
Or the loneliness in the QT?
You literally spent the entire game calling him town and then eventually stating he was town but should be vigged.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:50 am
by camn
Relevance?
And cerulean- please see post 3030 for an organized and recent list of my suspicions.
Not much has changed.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:29 am
by Cerulean
What did you think of empire's reasoning for dv being town? Do you still see him as a potential partner to Jason?
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:56 am
by camn
I think empires reasoning is off.
Imagine you got a blue-colored role saying thou had partners, a QT, and you were a day talk enabler.
That would be just as confusing as getting a red-colored role saying you had nothing but your vote.
So DV's 'genuine' confusion is nothing.
As to why he would true claim? Because he started out crumbing it, didn't think it through, and was committed to the action.
Plus, I am not of the mind too let anything in the neighborhood influence me. I can't see it.
Plus plus, I think DV/Jason makes more sense in re last night than Ben/anyone. Ben has been flaky lately, and could be scum, but he is generally more rational, and would be eliminating powder roles by now.
↑camn wrote:I think empires reasoning is off.
Imagine you got a blue-colored role saying thou had partners, a QT, and you were a day talk enabler.
That would be just as confusing as getting a red-colored role saying you had nothing but your vote.
So DV's 'genuine' confusion is nothing.
As to why he would true claim? Because he started out crumbing it, didn't think it through, and was committed to the action.
Plus, I am not of the mind too let anything in the neighborhood influence me. I can't see it.
Plus plus, I think DV/Jason makes more sense in re last night than Ben/anyone. Ben has been flaky lately, and could be scum, but he is generally more rational, and would be eliminating powder roles by now.
This is weak sauce. And it actually doesn't make any sense. If you have a blue colored role, a qt, partners, are a day talk enabler and are told you can kill each night, you're not going to be confused about your alignment. That's a pretty solid indicator that you're scum.
Getting a read colored role, and your vote, and you're a daytalk enabler could be confusing. I was confused.
Are you saying you were confused and thought you were town when you got your role at first?
Also, so you're saying he thought he'd crumb his scum role for what purpose if he's scum? He didn't think it through is pretty lame, and you're better than that. (see not an insult, I actually have decent expectations of you.)
Beyond that what do you think of his read on his actual play?
So, what changed from you wanting benmage lynhced yesterday, but no really want, to not wanting him lynhced today?
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:31 am
by Shaft
@Cerulean, not really. Team mafia was mid last year. It looks like jasonscum is aggressive. I asked him about recent [scum] meta since his other recent game was linked. I figured it would help for the rest of you to look at. I didn't want to be ignorant, however, so I looked at everything he linked.
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:35 am
by Cerulean
↑Shaft wrote:@Cerulean, not really. Team mafia was mid last year. It looks like jasonscum is aggressive. I asked him about recent [scum] meta since his other recent game was linked. I figured it would help for the rest of you to look at. I didn't want to be ignorant, however, so I looked at everything he linked.
Yeah, I was his scum partner in team mafia. He started out strong and aggressive and then started coasting and lurking about mid to late day one.