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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:13 am
by Kagami
top~

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:30 am
by Katarina LeBlanc
I'm a bottom :c

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:27 am
by Kagami
Varsoon, you're a 1-shot redirector and nothing else, right?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:48 am
by Kagami
And I'd prefer it if the remaining flavor claims come
after
Nacho's

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:51 am
by ActionDan
oh btw I'll know who the motivator is off of flavor considering the motivate message. So I think if the remaining people aren't PRs in their own right It'd be nice to pseudo claim whether lush was motivated N1.

yes/no etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:09 am
by pieguyn
SAKURA <3
In post 3199, Sakura Hana wrote:Gaiden flipped encryptor right? I need to read more into those 2 day 1 wagons and Cabd's interactions with them, because 1 thing i know is that Cabd considers day chat OP and he probably would have protected Gaiden if it came to it.
that was exactly my read
you stole that from me
you traitor ;w;

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:11 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 3205, pieguyn wrote:that was exactly my read
you stole that from me
you traitor ;w;
Idk, i haven't read anything past page 20 in general, and i've only read Lush's ISO, so since that was your read, care to bring anything idk or haven't checked then?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:13 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 3204, ActionDan wrote:It'd be nice to pseudo claim whether lush was motivated N1.
I don't get the question, is this at everyone? care to explain it?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:22 am
by ActionDan
at the 4 unclaimed people.

I'll know who the motivator is from a character claim. each claims that if they were the motivator whether they targeted lush N1.

honestly. It really doesn't matter and straight claims are fine at this point

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:24 am
by Mac
I am not a tracker. I am not a motivator. I will also full claim if required. I also still have the feels about Dan being scum. Dan scum = muffin town, in my opinion.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:26 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 3209, Mac wrote:Dan scum = muffin town, in my opinion.
Why can't both be Town? Is this anything that i'll prob. find out when I finally get to read all the pages?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:41 am
by Nachomamma8
Hi guys I'm the motivator

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:41 am
by Nachomamma8
And yes, Lush was motivated Night 1.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:44 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 3181, Kagami wrote:He can only be town, in my mind, if you are scum.
So I guess Kagami's gonna come after me then.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:44 am
by Kagami
Interesting, can we have flavor claims?

p-edit: Not yet

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:47 am
by Mac
In post 3210, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3209, Mac wrote:Dan scum = muffin town, in my opinion.
Why can't both be Town? Is this anything that i'll prob. find out when I finally get to read all the pages?
Because I feel both are counters to the ninja - thus I think dan's possibly fakeclaiming. I still don't think a ninja kill would show up under his investigate.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:50 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 3067, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 3048, Jaqen Hghar wrote: A man thinks a man prior was correct after all. GoodCopBadCop is definitely a BAD Cop and must needs have his neck stretched.
And here I started to like you D2... guess it wasn't you after all?

Muffin, I was taking it easy since Cabd told me that we had a cop guilty entering D3... doesn't look to be that simple tho. What does concern me is you hunting the Varsoon wagon and not
your own quick wagon
. If you really are town, it should be pretty freaking obvious from the speed and reasoning behind your wagon that scum would be salivating to hop on.

I also don't like how you are writing off Varsoon as very very likely town because his D1 play points to him being town when I absolutely disagree, and echo Jaqen's sentiments re: Varsoon from D2.

I will let Cabd respond to your questions, since you specifically addressed him, but would like your thoughts on my comments.

Nacho, I realize that there is a possibility that Lush may have not gotten a guilty, but why are you talking like its the end of the world with "Why the fuck do towns have a tendency to start throwing shit away because "oooh, we're in the lead"?" That is absolutely NOT what is happening here. Are you trying to say there is a zero percent chance that Lush got a guilty? Cause that's pretty dumb and you are NOT a mafia god.

If there is a chance that Lush had a guilty and was trying to convey that in the form of a lynch push then we should be pursuing that avenue for lynch candidate today. You are also clearing Muffin solely on claim alone? I expect you to actually contribute and not be freaking dead-weight as town.

~GC
There's a very solid chance that Lush didn't get a guilty, and I find your push like they did so absolutely retarded. If Lush, as a odd night cop, got a double guilty on Muffin and ActionDan, they would claim it. If Lush got a single guilty on Muffin, there's a zero percent chance she would keep it in her pants instead of crowing to the entire world how Muffin was scum and she called it years before; she would not allow a third person to be lynched that wasn't her guilty.

And no, I'm not a mafia god and I will probably be closer to deadweight this game than what I usually am. But the reasons for this lynch are dubious at best so you're probably going to have to stick with scumhunting as opposed to MAYBE WE GOT HIM.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:51 am
by Sakura Hana
Idk, i thought i read kill cop not kill tracker, so i thought it worked like a gunsmith, can anyone correct me on this?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:52 am
by Nachomamma8
I am Merlin prismriver, for you flavor buffs.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:52 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 3217, Sakura Hana wrote:Idk, i thought i read kill cop not kill tracker, so i thought it worked like a gunsmith, can anyone correct me on this?
You're completely correct; I have no idea what drugs Mac is ingesting.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:55 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 3081, Kagami wrote:I don't think Lush crumbed a target nor do I think it would make sense to decide and stick with a target given the Gaiden flip. Lush made it abundantly clear that the investigation target was muffin, the only argument for muffin's innocence is the possibility that muffin was framed in some way or another, or lush was redirected to a scum.

There's no way muffin was framed in favor of someone on Varsoon's wagon, to my mind, so we'd have to believe lush was redirected. I don't think this happened because I see no reason to think Lush was scum, and Varsoon has already claimed a redirection role.
I think the confidence of Muffin as an investigative target is :/

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:01 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 3140, Kagami wrote:Ehhhh... I really don't think there's any reasonable argument that lush didn't investigate you, muffin. He clearly did not crumb an innocent, and came out guns blazing anti-muffin despite only having a weak rationalization for his suspicion.

It's not crazy that he jumped off the wagon to lynch the CoK either, though it does indicate that he didn't investigate Dan. He saw that he wasn't getting support for muffin and was fine with lynching an alternative guilty, knowing that his potential flip should result in a muffin lynch anyway, and maybe getting a second investigation with luck.

The pro-muffin argument relies on the investigation being tampered with, not Lush sucking at cop-crumbing.
Mollie doesn't crumb results.
Jiffy is not subtle enough to crumb results.
Bork no clue but he wasn't the one pushing things.
So not seeing an innocent crumbed actually doesn't mean shit.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:01 pm
by Mac
In post 3217, Sakura Hana wrote:Idk, i thought i read kill cop not kill tracker, so i thought it worked like a gunsmith, can anyone correct me on this?
That makes alot more sense than it does in my head.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:04 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 3198, Kagami wrote:I think we need the rest of the claims.

My current theory is that the motivator is even-night.
You'd be wrong.
I am mostly motivator but I also have a wonderfully useless action to compliment it.

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:14 pm
by Kagami
Yeah, I realized that there's really not much left for you to motivate anyway.

What's your flavor, mac?