Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

[Anatole Kuragin]

It seems like you're

really

trying to stretch this which is annoying since you're conftown.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Because it shows your mindset. You were joking about how you were carrying the town on your back after you ended up scumreading two scum. It wasn't a "funny" joke. It was something that was said in a lighthearted way.

But I'm not going to keep pushing this point. I'd rather look through your ISO in this game and post more comments.

[Cutty Shark]

I am toying with the idea of no lynch today. We are in the +SK equivalent of MYLO:

worst case scenario tomorrow would be 3v1v1 where we are essentially in the same situation as today (ML can lose the game but a correct lynch cannot lose it). Best case scenario is considerably better for a number of reasons.

Also it gives Nashville or whomever the camera ends up with an extra shot with it.

Thoughts?

-b

[Anatole Kuragin]

I didn't pretend to nail messiah in that game though. He was nightkilled and I never voted him or even really addressed him at all. It doesn't add up to what you're saying here.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I didn't pretend to nail messiah in that game though. He was nightkilled and I never voted him or even really addressed him at all. It doesn't add up to what you're saying here.

@f16

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Then me or Ffery will get shot at. It is suboptimal to no lynch when there is conftown. I really don't think mafia or SK will try to shoot at each other. Also, scum have to choose between killing Titus/Mala or one of me and Ffery and that uncertainty is there even if we lynch out of Anatole/Majiffy/Oka.

[Cutty Shark]

I really don't think mafia or SK will try to shoot at each other.

I guess this is the point of contention. They can't both win and have to deal with each other sometime.

-b

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I didn't pretend to nail messiah in that game though. He was nightkilled and I never voted him or even really addressed him at all. It doesn't add up to what you're saying here.

@f16

That's fine. I already said I'd drop that point.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I really don't think mafia or SK will try to shoot at each other.

I guess this is the point of contention. They can't both win and have to deal with each other sometime.

-b

They are going to try and make it happen through a day lynch. It is much more likely they would lose if they leave conftown alive.

[Anatole Kuragin]

If you want to see my decent town meta, look at Belisarius's flying aces where MC was scum and I called him from day one. I think it's probably pretty similar to my progression with the Babs lynch. I went back and forth with him (since he fakeclaimed doctor and most people townread him) but after there was a decent association I pulled the trigger.

[Cutty Shark]

Well if we end up at 2v1v1 I am going to auto NL if I am still alive, so neither will be winning that way.

-b

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Which is still a sort of kingmaker scenario/prisoner's dilemma. Why go there when we can win outright and still have the power to choose who to lynch?

[Cutty Shark]

Which is still a sort of kingmaker scenario/prisoner's dilemma. Why go there when we can win outright and still have the power to choose who to lynch?

No, that's what happens if we ML today, not if we NL.

-b

[Anatole Kuragin]

If you want to see my decent town meta, look at Belisarius's flying aces where MC was scum and I called him from day one. I think it's probably pretty similar to my progression with the Babs lynch. I went back and forth with him (since he fakeclaimed doctor and most people townread him) but after there was a decent association I pulled the trigger.

Same with my read of Reck in the recently finished Air Combat Mafia by Oman - I had a gut scumread on Reck all game but didn't really push it until I hammered him in LYLO.

[Cutty Shark]

And yes, I would rather lynch correctly today. I'm just trying to do that from the most informed position I can

-b

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Which is still a sort of kingmaker scenario/prisoner's dilemma. Why go there when we can win outright and still have the power to choose who to lynch?

No, that's what happens if we ML today, not if we NL.

-b

You are right. But let's say two of Nashville, Ffery or I get nightkilled after we no lynch. You are in the same position as before and you won't be any closer to figuring out which of Oka/Majiffy/Anatole are scum.

[Anatole Kuragin]

well i can help you there - lynch oka now

[Cutty Shark]

Yep. That is definitely that particular worst case scenario

-b

[Anatole Kuragin]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Oh yeah, I read through the Air Combat game. Not sure what to make of it yet.

[Cutty Shark]

well i can help you there - lynch oka now

Why oka and not majiffy?

-b

[Anatole Kuragin]

we've been over this - Oka is almost certainly serial killer

[Cutty Shark]

And you think nashville is outside shot at groupscum only?

-b

[Anatole Kuragin]

it's her or majiffy

there is an or there

I don't have an or on serial killer

[Anatole Kuragin]

Her discussion about the camera doesn't seem groupscummy to me but I don't have a good argument aside from that