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It seems like you're trying to stretch this which is annoying since you're conftown.

Because it shows your mindset. You were joking about how you were carrying the town on your back after you ended up scumreading two scum. It wasn't a "funny" joke. It was something that was said in a lighthearted way.

But I'm not going to keep pushing this point. I'd rather look through your ISO in this game and post more comments.

I am toying with the idea of no lynch today. We are in the +SK equivalent of MYLO:

worst case scenario tomorrow would be 3v1v1 where we are essentially in the same situation as today (ML can lose the game but a correct lynch cannot lose it). Best case scenario is considerably better for a number of reasons.

Also it gives Nashville or whomever the camera ends up with an extra shot with it.

Thoughts?

-b

I didn't pretend to nail messiah in that game though. He was nightkilled and I never voted him or even really addressed him at all. It doesn't add up to what you're saying here.

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:I didn't pretend to nail messiah in that game though. He was nightkilled and I never voted him or even really addressed him at all. It doesn't add up to what you're saying here.

@f16

Then me or Ffery will get shot at. It is suboptimal to no lynch when there is conftown. I really don't think mafia or SK will try to shoot at each other. Also, scum have to choose between killing Titus/Mala or one of me and Ffery and that uncertainty is there even if we lynch out of Anatole/Majiffy/Oka.

↑ F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I really don't think mafia or SK will try to shoot at each other.

I guess this is the point of contention. They can't both win and have to deal with each other sometime.

-b

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:I didn't pretend to nail messiah in that game though. He was nightkilled and I never voted him or even really addressed him at all. It doesn't add up to what you're saying here.

@f16

That's fine. I already said I'd drop that point.

↑ Cutty Shark wrote:

↑ F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I really don't think mafia or SK will try to shoot at each other.

I guess this is the point of contention. They can't both win and have to deal with each other sometime.

-b

They are going to try and make it happen through a day lynch. It is much more likely they would lose if they leave conftown alive.

If you want to see my decent town meta, look at Belisarius's flying aces where MC was scum and I called him from day one. I think it's probably pretty similar to my progression with the Babs lynch. I went back and forth with him (since he fakeclaimed doctor and most people townread him) but after there was a decent association I pulled the trigger.

Well if we end up at 2v1v1 I am going to auto NL if I am still alive, so neither will be winning that way.

-b

Which is still a sort of kingmaker scenario/prisoner's dilemma. Why go there when we can win outright and still have the power to choose who to lynch?

↑ F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Which is still a sort of kingmaker scenario/prisoner's dilemma. Why go there when we can win outright and still have the power to choose who to lynch?

No, that's what happens if we ML today, not if we NL.

-b

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:If you want to see my decent town meta, look at Belisarius's flying aces where MC was scum and I called him from day one. I think it's probably pretty similar to my progression with the Babs lynch. I went back and forth with him (since he fakeclaimed doctor and most people townread him) but after there was a decent association I pulled the trigger.

Same with my read of Reck in the recently finished Air Combat Mafia by Oman - I had a gut scumread on Reck all game but didn't really push it until I hammered him in LYLO.

And yes, I would rather lynch correctly today. I'm just trying to do that from the most informed position I can

-b

↑ Cutty Shark wrote:

↑ F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Which is still a sort of kingmaker scenario/prisoner's dilemma. Why go there when we can win outright and still have the power to choose who to lynch?

No, that's what happens if we ML today, not if we NL.

-b

You are right. But let's say two of Nashville, Ffery or I get nightkilled after we no lynch. You are in the same position as before and you won't be any closer to figuring out which of Oka/Majiffy/Anatole are scum.

well i can help you there - lynch oka now

Yep. That is definitely that particular worst case scenario

-b

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Oh yeah, I read through the Air Combat game. Not sure what to make of it yet.

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:well i can help you there - lynch oka now

Why oka and not majiffy?

-b

we've been over this - Oka is almost certainly serial killer

And you think nashville is outside shot at groupscum only?

-b

it's her or majiffy

there is an or there

I don't have an or on serial killer

Her discussion about the camera doesn't seem groupscummy to me but I don't have a good argument aside from that