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↑ Jaqen Hghar wrote:One more Nacho- if Kari is flipping scum, how is this vote shift looking?

↑ Sonic Boom wrote:VOTE: Ari

Yeah, Kari's not on the lynchable list.

I don't really know why they changed their vote here, but it doesn't scream scum to me.

And when we have a cop innocent on a player and there are no flipped scum something has to scream scum from sonic boom before I even think of turning that way.

↑ Wickedestjr wrote:I’ve already explained why this is wrong, you ignored me. If the commute inventor is scum, then they already know who is getting night killed and they could theoretically just give their commute to some other townish/nightkillable player. I’m starting to think the commute inventor is scum with you (if it’s not you).

You don't think there's a protective role in the game?

That's... strange.

↑ Wickedestjr wrote:mastin has played with me more than any other player on this site, yet she has the worst track record when it comes to reading me. Even for a very confident player like her, it doesn't make sense for her to scum read me with zero doubt right now. I have answered all her questions, explained why all her points are wrong. Oh and I'm town. Her attack feels super fake.

Some players just won't be able to read you worth a shit :/.
I agree that her attack on you is bad, but I've played with her much much more than you have and it doesn't look scummy. Sorry!

I'm confused why this attack in particular is the one that's just one too many, though. She seemed to attack you with the same confidence in most of those games; is 6 wrong reads just the magic number or something?

Wicked when two people in a row call your argument bad maybe it's not so good?

Just a thought

↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:

↑ Jaqen Hghar wrote:One more Nacho- if Kari is flipping scum, how is this vote shift looking?

↑ Sonic Boom wrote:VOTE: Ari

Yeah, Kari's not on the lynchable list.

I don't really know why they changed their vote here, but it doesn't scream scum to me.

...a man is gone for a while and realizes much and more is changing constantly. That said, Titus is having her own self applied rules she is playing by, one of which is her terminology so she isn't confusing herself. In past times "lynchable" is meaning those she is thinking she is able to push a mislynch on without being called scum for it. She is sticking to that list win, lose, or draw_ hence lynch. Is this changing? i.e. Are you seeing her use "lynchable" as town before?

'mkay i need 2 replacements. i'm going to get those asap.

nope, can't count
actually need 3

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I'm not sure what to think about the Kari and Ari wagons. Why is Aristo wagon so big with questionable names while Kari wagon has 3 votes?

Something is fishy here.

mastin2 - 1 (Wickedestjr)
Wickedestjr - 1 (mastin2)

Also this is just dumb.

yes it is!

Kari wagon died because Kari replaced out.

↑ Jaqen Hghar wrote:

↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:

↑ Jaqen Hghar wrote:One more Nacho- if Kari is flipping scum, how is this vote shift looking?

↑ Sonic Boom wrote:VOTE: Ari

Yeah, Kari's not on the lynchable list.

I don't really know why they changed their vote here, but it doesn't scream scum to me.

...a man is gone for a while and realizes much and more is changing constantly. That said, Titus is having her own self applied rules she is playing by, one of which is her terminology so she isn't confusing herself. In past times "lynchable" is meaning those she is thinking she is able to push a mislynch on without being called scum for it. She is sticking to that list win, lose, or draw_ hence lynch

able

. Is this changing? i.e. Are you seeing her use "lynchable" as town before?

i wasn't aware of that tell and don't recall her using lynchable as either alignment.

↑ Lying Cat wrote:That's what I said. Pay better attention.

Ummm.
Fluminator asked a question.
I answered correctly.
What on earth am do I need to pay better attention to...?

↑ mastin2 wrote:Basically...Wicked's vote looked like scum, period. It looked a lot more like scum voting town than scum voting scum, but scum bussing's not impossible. It just doesn't look town.

sigh~

Good Lord.

Just because you're finding it hard to catch up doesn't mean you replace out immediately :/

Eat a lynch if you have to. Play more loosely if you have to. Replacing is a last resort of last resorts but I don't feel like it's being treated that way right now :/

↑ vezokpiraka wrote:I'm not sure what to think about the Kari and Ari wagons. Why is Aristo wagon so big with questionable names while Kari wagon has 3 votes?

Something is fishy here.

mastin2 - 1 (Wickedestjr)
Wickedestjr - 1 (mastin2)

Also this is just dumb.

The wagons were tied at the last vote count. I swapped to Aristo over Kari because I had insufficient reason to believe Kari was scum, and given a generally null overall read on both slots, and their inactivity, I went with the slot that was being voted by the conftown.

I can't speak for anyone else though.

EBWOP: OH, and just so it's clear, when I say last vote count I meant the vote count before this one.

Nacho: Agreed. Fairly disappointing to see everyone replacing out of this game.

LC, I'll probably respond to your last set of posts, not sure if there's anything I really need to say though.

↑ Flubbernugget wrote:I've tried Cerb and jaqen

You've tried me and mas

This is what I remember off the top of my head so am I missing stuff?

I'll go through all our votes...

Flubber-
-joined SB wagon
-joined SC wagon
-joined Mac wagon
-joined Cerb wagon
-joined hiplop wagon
-returned to Cerb
-returned to hiplop wagon
-tried starting a Jaqen wagon
-voted jaqen again even though no unvote
-joined Aristo wagon

Me-
-voted mastin
-joined Mac wagon
-voted Gorkington
-voted you
-joined Bins wagon
-mistakenly voted Cerb
-returned to Bins wagon
-voted Jaqen
-joined hiplop wagon
-voted ika
-voted you
-joined Kari wagon (compromise vote)
-voted mastin


Most of your votes are joining already existing bandwagons. Most of mine are attempts to start bandwagons. I'm not being a hypocrite here...

↑ Cerberus v666 wrote:Wicked: how am I trying to paint this as similar to her town meta? I don't even know her town meta. I just know from what I've read that she's extremely confident.

You initially called my point on her null. Thus, you initially thought that the play I'm voting her for here is similar to her town meta.

↑ Wickedestjr wrote:

↑ Cerberus v666 wrote:Wicked: how am I trying to paint this as similar to her town meta? I don't even know her town meta. I just know from what I've read that she's extremely confident.

You initially called my point on her null. Thus, you initially thought that the play I'm voting her for here is similar to her town meta.

What? Null means null which means not alignment indicative which means it could be done by a player in either a town or a scum slot...

LC: There are other roles that are relevant to the discussion. I know that. I'm sure you know that. i'm sure scum know that. Why wouldn't you mention all the possibilities? Because it's "anti-town" to say something in the thread that the scum certainly know?

Also, I don't expect people to actually care about my opinions on terminology/play style. Any time I reference something like that it's mostly just venting. It does make me want to see people who do those things get lynched, but it't not for rational reasons.

Jaqen: The point of my comment was you said the Ari counterwagon was growing. The implication there, given that both slots are lurkers and nobody can really defend either one, is that the first wagon, which had a counterwagon grow to stop it, was on scum. I didn't really express that very well in my first post though, I just focused on your scum read on members of the wagon. I really should have said something along the lines of "It appears to me that believe kari is scum because a counterwagon grew in response to her wagon(and this belief is probably at least somewhat supplemented by the fact that two of your scum reads are on said counterwagon)."

↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:Kari wagon died because Kari replaced out.

There hasn't been a single unvote from Kari since she replaced out actually.

And I tried very hard to avoid doing so myself. I have stated a reason, not all of the reasons, for it but don't believe I should have to.

You say I should just play more loosely. You do realize my activity level thus far, yes?
It has been unfair to the players here and to Anti, and thus I am replacing out. If it were going to get easier for me to contribute in coming days/weeks, I'd have remained, but it won't.
That there are 3 replacement requests on the same page is really unfortunate, but I would never abuse such a thing. I'm sorry if it seems that way to you.

↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:You don't think there's a protective role in the game? That's... strange.

Yes! It is!

What do you think that strangeness means?

↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm confused why this attack in particular is the one that's just one too many, though. She seemed to attack you with the same confidence in most of those games; is 6 wrong reads just the magic number or something?

There isn't any good reason why this attack is one too many. Everything about the attack is just plain wrong. Which is why he's scum.