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Btw I wanted to kill only CW but last second GiF informed me that I either have to kill gamma as well or no kill at all.
Sooo sorry gamma you were a needed sacrifice!

Pedti:Hey hey motherfkin hey
Your girl lux is here

Also I don't think Cafe is scum cus of some things but I will get to it later when I get home

ayyyyyyyyyyyyy

flashbacks to NSG absolutely destroying Undertale mafia

Okay so here's the basis for where I'm at right now

I think that scum were, with at most 1 exception, either resisting or apathetic to the wagon on LE and that they were hoping to use it against town later.

I think that because
1) I have some degree of townreads on all of the members of said wagon besides Kats. Pops is a weak weak townlean as well but there's still not all that much room for scum there.
2) CS's post in LyLo seemed like scum with hand in the cookie jar overreaching.
3) We got nightkilled for bringing up the possibility that scum were actively avoiding the wagon. There was an IC that scum knew about, and they still shot us instead of taking out the IC. Our trajectory was clear, they shot us because they didn't like the trajectory that we were on.

Also I don't think Cafe is scum cus of some things but I will get to it later when I get home

what are "some things"? Who do you think the scum are?

Looking forward to it..

GJ Gameplay on shots.

I was targetted by an apparent scum day ability that informed me at the beginning of night that I needed to choose between no-transforming N1, or no transforming N2 and skipping all day abilities D2. The PM was flavored but I think I'll withhold the flavor. I think it's scum because the wording didn't seem to suggest it would inhibit factional NK and now with the scum role PM flip it looks even more like that.

I am not claiming which of those two options presented to me that I chose.

Do keep in mind that you were a universal townread who had softed town power and Bitmap was known IC and we were still shot over either of you.
That should at the very least say something.

In post 3203, Tana and Ephraim wrote: 3) We got nightkilled for bringing up the possibility that scum were actively avoiding the wagon. There was an IC that scum knew about, and they still shot us instead of taking out the IC. Our trajectory was clear, they shot us because they didn't like the trajectory that we were on.

The rest is good, but come on, it's an RC slot.

I'm 99% sure T&E is town.
Ganeplay def town.
pops possibly town.
I'm town.

Gimme some time to figure out stuff.

In post 1899, Chaos Wind wrote:On a more serious note why is LE focusing on people’s reads on them instead of their own read on other people when deciding who to push?

In post 2386, Chaos Wind wrote:Intent to hammer LE

-Wind

These are basically the only instances of LE's wagon in Wind's ISO. I too, am following the line of thought that scum is largely or entirely off-wagon, both for the reasons Ephraim mentioned and because I think LD was an inevitable lynch just by virtue of how she was playing—and scum love to keep their hands away from inevitable town lynches.

In post 3206, popsofctown wrote:

In post 3203, Tana and Ephraim wrote: 3) We got nightkilled for bringing up the possibility that scum were actively avoiding the wagon. There was an IC that scum knew about, and they still shot us instead of taking out the IC. Our trajectory was clear, they shot us because they didn't like the trajectory that we were on.

The rest is good, but come on, it's an RC slot.

Every game where I was shot so far this year I've been on the right track.
Notably, I've never had a game where I wasn't on the right track this year either, so regardless of which way you choose to look at it...

In post 3209, Tana and Ephraim wrote:

In post 3206, popsofctown wrote:

In post 3203, Tana and Ephraim wrote: 3) We got nightkilled for bringing up the possibility that scum were actively avoiding the wagon. There was an IC that scum knew about, and they still shot us instead of taking out the IC. Our trajectory was clear, they shot us because they didn't like the trajectory that we were on.

The rest is good, but come on, it's an RC slot.

Notably, I've never had a game where I wasn't on the right track this year either, so regardless of which way you choose to look at it...

as far as first pass associatives

In post 188, Chaos Wind wrote:

In post 138, Titus wrote:

In post 130, gameplay506 wrote:Idk most players have been joking but Titus is the only one who left an odd feeling in me
Same with bitmap but replace odd with good

Oof sorry if I'm being too serious and ruining the fun, I will go back to my rl now

Ok 5 bucks based on everything that's happened gameplay is seriously scum here. Bitmap's likely scum or useful to them.

VOTE: Gameplay

RC's voting based on vendetta.
Pops is voting to get a reaction.
Cafe getting a counter wagon going in RVS isn't an issue at all. I might have done the same.

Gameplay's posting however is over justified. Titus has an "odd" feeling. Bitmap has a "good" feeling. Yet he breaks the posting up into several posts and is real defensive about it.

Pops, real life does suck. I'd rather not think about it. I put it elsewhere but there's real high odds I'm getting a divorce.

I think Titus is town for this post

Analyzing the votes on them would likely be the first thing Town!Titus would think to do here

-Wind

this is a really weak town read on Titus but it also makes me think gameplay/Chaos Wind aren't aligned if there was any question of that

In post 971, Chaos Wind wrote:

In post 927, Lady Eventide wrote:

In post 923, Tana and Ephraim wrote:But it seems you're getting hung up over these "reasons" from "reading your games" instead of... you know, adressing the fact that i called your vote opportunistic, also you mentioned you wanted to hear more from us when there's a big ISO with posts from both, and we've consistently interacted with the playerbase and provided reads as we form them. But NOPE, apparently we're scum because RC read your games and figured you were scum from doing so, everything else be damned.
-Tana

... Huh. Interesting.

Yes, there is a big ISO. Nonetheless, I wanted to hear more. Wanting to hear more =/= calling you inactive, please do be clear regarding that.

I still want to hear more from RC and get real proof he's read WC1, but this feels good. I think Dolittle's my priority now, rather than you two.

VOTE: DrDolittle

I like this vote a lot

It feels like it's trying to keep up solving pressure

-Wind

less clear but it's -equity for DDL/Chaos Wind being aligned

those are my weakest town reads on the wagon so it's nice to feel a little more confident about them

So I would like to start by bringing the question to others because it's the one point where me and Tana actually disagree today and that's DDL

What do you guys think? My original read on the situation was that the DDL counterwagon seemed likely to be overflowing with scum tryin' to look useful but with the only flipped scum being someone who actually did in fact offer to vote LE, I'm no longer so sure about that read.

less clear but it's -equity for DDL/Chaos Wind being aligned

not so sure about this specific reason

In post 3212, Tana and Ephraim wrote:So I would like to start by bringing the question to others because it's the one point where me and Tana actually disagree today and that's DDL

What do you guys think? My original read on the situation was that the DDL counterwagon seemed likely to be overflowing with scum tryin' to look useful but with the only flipped scum being someone who actually did in fact offer to vote LE, I'm no longer so sure about that read.

less clear but it's -equity for DDL/Chaos Wind being aligned

not so sure about this specific reason

eh

on second thought it could just be a reason for Chaos Wind to awkwardly town read LE and get credit later

My question to you, Ephraim, is what if you were possibly slightly off track and they shot you to give us paranoia that your reads were completely on track?

Oh I totally misunderstood CW's position in the EoD wagons. Hmm.

My question to you, Ephraim, is what if you were possibly slightly off track and they shot you to give us paranoia that your reads were completely on track?

hi

In post 3214, Bitmap wrote:My question to you, Ephraim, is what if you were possibly slightly off track and they shot you to give us paranoia that your reads were completely on track?

No wait that wouldn't make sense. I would of been the NK then if your reads were off track. So actually yeah pretty sure T&E had the right track.

In post 3205, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Do keep in mind that you were a universal townread who had softed town power and Bitmap was known IC and we were still shot over either of you.
That should at the very least say something.

Cafe Stile and RCEnigma are possible scum on DDL EoD

HH is possible but I'm town binning for now

In post 3217, popsofctown wrote:

In post 3205, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Do keep in mind that you were a universal townread who had softed town power and Bitmap was known IC and we were still shot over either of you.
That should at the very least say something.

It kind of seems like circumstantially it's hard for DDL to be scum. [/color]

I don't think this is necessarily true.

It could easily be, like, LLD/DDL/CW/x if CS is town.

Why are we not considering RCE today?

In post 998, DrDolittle wrote:Chaos Wind (Chemist1422 + Eragon) [X]: Hi titus as a post. Wind = Chemist.

it is a little weird to include Chaos Wind in a reads list if this is all you're going to say

In post 3222, Dannflor wrote:

In post 998, DrDolittle wrote:Chaos Wind (Chemist1422 + Eragon) [X]: Hi titus as a post. Wind = Chemist.

it is a little weird to include Chaos Wind in a reads list if this is all you're going to say

but I feel like you either omit or make up more to say if you do include a scum buddy?

In post 3222, Dannflor wrote:

In post 998, DrDolittle wrote:Chaos Wind (Chemist1422 + Eragon) [X]: Hi titus as a post. Wind = Chemist.

it is a little weird to include Chaos Wind in a reads list if this is all you're going to say

Makes me less inclined to think DDL is scum with CW.