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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:45 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Why don't you ask Nancy if she gets this feeling from me as a hydra?
I don't see where I said I don't care about other reads if they conflict with mine. Is this about my scumreading Sushi while NSG "hard townreads" (she doesn't) him?
This is literally something you said a long time ago then we had a fight over it and then we stopped playing together.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:46 pm
by farside
In post 3196, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 3184, farside wrote:Why is TH making work for people?
???
Your asking for meta reads from cakez.
Do you think his reads are wrong? You may have said what your reads are but i dont recall so would you mind saying who your scum reading?

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:49 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 3198, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean auros other heads are townreading Ceph and he's voting Ceph anyway.
Oh sorry. :facepalm:

I need to sleep more. Doh.

I haven’t read over half the game and unless Auro and I are vehemently disagreeing on a read, I won’t adamantly oppose it.

Like we both hardtown read Mastina and nsg for example.

But I have a much stronger read on Ren then he does.

I am obviously open to opinions that contradict ours.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:51 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 3200, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Why don't you ask Nancy if she gets this feeling from me as a hydra?
I don't see where I said I don't care about other reads if they conflict with mine. Is this about my scumreading Sushi while NSG "hard townreads" (she doesn't) him?
This is literally something you said a long time ago then we had a fight over it and then we stopped playing together.
I don't recall. I know I'm pretty stubborn, but at least now I give credence to others' reads. Only that I assign a lot of weight to the soundness of the cases. With Nancy in hydras I've just let her veto stuff before.

I thought we fought over a scumread on me for not doing much when I was Michael Scott in that rapier game.

But, yeah, I try :P

-Stuxnet

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:52 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 3199, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 3174, RadiantCowbells wrote:Auro in his own words doesn't care about other people's reads if they conflict with his own.
Why don't you ask Nancy if she gets this feeling from me as a hydra?
I don't see where I said I don't care about other reads if they conflict with mine. Is this about my scumreading Sushi while NSG "hard townreads" (she doesn't) him?
Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 3184, farside wrote:Why is TH making work for people?
???
You're asking people to link stuff. I don't see any problem with it.

-Stuxnet
@RC, I would not hydra with anyone who completely disregarded my opinions or reads. I think you would know that from your experience hydraing with me.

@Farside, what exactly is your issue with that?

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:53 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 3198, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean auros other heads are townreading Ceph and he's voting Ceph anyway.
Also this is false lol
I haven't voted Ceph
SirFakez asked me who I'd *want* to vote for and I said Ceph - I'm entitled to a personal opinion.

This feels similar to when people asked me for more reasons on my SirFakez scumread and I gave them and suddenly got attacked on a bunch of fronts :P

-Stuxnet

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:53 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Ok sorry

You've pushed for Vecna votes

You are not currently voting them

Happy

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:54 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 3201, farside wrote:
In post 3196, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 3184, farside wrote:Why is TH making work for people?
???
Your asking for meta reads from cakez.
Do you think his reads are wrong? You may have said what your reads are but i dont recall so would you mind saying who your scum reading?
I asked both Vecna and Cakez to link one of their scumgames. What is your issue with that?

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:55 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 3206, RadiantCowbells wrote:You've pushed for Vecna votes

You are not currently voting them
Yes, because I changed my read on Vecna between the point I was pushing for votes (which was pre replacement IIRC) and right now - why exactly is that problematic?

-Stuxnet

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:56 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Sorry what I meant to say was

You're pushing Suichi even though your other heads TR fhem

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:57 pm
by Trojan Horses
Fyi, farside, I’m not currently tr you. I trust that answers your question.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:59 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 3209, RadiantCowbells wrote:Sorry what I meant to say was

You're pushing Suichi even though your other heads TR fhem
RC, I’m not currently sr him but it’s not a strong read. For me, it’s more a question of PoE and at least some of that is based off of meta.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:01 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 3209, RadiantCowbells wrote:You're pushing Suichi even though your other heads TR fhem
Nancy has only read half the game. I told her my concerns about Sushi earlier. She said Ceph's play feels different from Apocalypse (the last game we faced scum!Ceph in). I mentioned that he's roleplaying a detective character which will likely alter his meta. She acknowledged this.

I'll add that Nancy and I do have read disparities a few times and we're OK with it. We have slightly different approaches to the game. As Nancy stated, she's fine with me pushing wherever - if she thinks I'm tunneling obvtown she'd tell me and I'll stop. She knows this is my style, though.

Sky is barely invested in the game. I don't recall her reads on Sushi. I would say it's outdated anyway.

-Stuxnet

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:14 pm
by SirCakez
In post 3184, farside wrote:Why is TH making work for people?
cuz Auro hates me lol
In post 3205, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 3198, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean auros other heads are townreading Ceph and he's voting Ceph anyway.
Also this is false lol
I haven't voted Ceph
SirFakez asked me who I'd *want* to vote for and I said Ceph - I'm entitled to a personal opinion.

This feels similar to when people asked me for more reasons on my SirFakez scumread and I gave them and suddenly got attacked on a bunch of fronts :P

-Stuxnet
:igmeou: why am I SirFakez?

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:22 pm
by Shuichi Saihara
In post 3197, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 3192, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 3190, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 3173, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 3001, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 2996, SirCakez wrote:ok why not push the wagon there then? Vecna is already on there. Rn I don't really feel like you're doing anything to push the lynch away from Vecna to Shuichi if that's what you want.
(no this is not some sort of subtle attempt to get you to unvote me)
Would you vote Sushi with me?

There are ways to push the lynch off someone that aren't "push someone else" :P including appeals to spend more time in the game, summarize reasoning which I can argue against, etc.

-Stuxnet
Why don't you care that one of your heads is townreading me
I think this is like the second time in this game, your comment on one of our posts made no sense and didn’t even reference you.
uhhhhh can you not read or
Auro didn’t mention RC anywhere in this post.
...what the fuck does RC have to do with anything that was just said

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:24 pm
by Shuichi Saihara
In post 3211, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 3209, RadiantCowbells wrote:Sorry what I meant to say was

You're pushing Suichi even though your other heads TR fhem
RC, I’m not currently sr him but it’s not a strong read. For me, it’s more a question of PoE and at least some of that is based off of meta.
I don't know where you're getting all this Ceph meta from. We don't have an extensive history or anything.
In post 3212, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 3209, RadiantCowbells wrote:You're pushing Suichi even though your other heads TR fhem
Nancy has only read half the game. I told her my concerns about Sushi earlier. She said Ceph's play feels different from Apocalypse (the last game we faced scum!Ceph in). I mentioned that he's roleplaying a detective character which will likely alter his meta. She acknowledged this.

I'll add that Nancy and I do have read disparities a few times and we're OK with it. We have slightly different approaches to the game. As Nancy stated, she's fine with me pushing wherever - if she thinks I'm tunneling obvtown she'd tell me and I'll stop. She knows this is my style, though.

Sky is barely invested in the game. I don't recall her reads on Sushi. I would say it's outdated anyway.

-Stuxnet
I don't even know what game apocalypse is

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:25 pm
by Shuichi Saihara
also my "rp"/character has been really not happening for about 50 pages now but i'm hoping to get back into it when i stop hating everything

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:28 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 3213, SirCakez wrote:cuz Auro hates me lol
Although I know you're joking, I'll just say again: It's never personal, I like you as a player and did like you in Excalibur (although my vague memory is that you were a lot more aggro there?) where we played together last :P

I use shitty nicknames for everyone if I get a chance!
It makes it harder to ctrl+f for associations in my ISO


@Sushi: it's that large Krazy game where you replaced Dann afair

-Stuxnet

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:29 pm
by Shuichi Saihara
oh, that game i replaced into late

even though you're getting townpoints for me out of it i feel compelled to point out that a game i only played a third of might not be the greatest choice for meta

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:32 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 3218, Shuichi Saihara wrote:even though you're getting townpoints for me out of it i feel compelled to point out that a game i only played a third of might not be the greatest choice for meta
Seemed like a basic playstyle comparison from Nancy.
That's Nancy's read btw and not mine.

-Stuxnet

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:36 pm
by SirCakez
In post 3217, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 3213, SirCakez wrote:cuz Auro hates me lol
Although I know you're joking, I'll just say again: It's never personal, I like you as a player and did like you in Excalibur (although my vague memory is that you were a lot more aggro there?) where we played together last :P

I use shitty nicknames for everyone if I get a chance!
It makes it harder to ctrl+f for associations in my ISO


@Sushi: it's that large Krazy game where you replaced Dann afair

-Stuxnet
I know I'm just joshing you back haha
I don't even remember Excalibur honestly...at the time I was extremely busy with work and the game was an afterthought which is probably why I don't remember it lol
I was more aggro in general in my past. I think I've grown more empathetic and less angry during my break.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:37 pm
by SirCakez
tbh I can't name any specific games for Ceph meta I just have this conception of him as a player in my head and I'm sticking to it!

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:39 pm
by Shuichi Saihara
idk i think in general you need a lot of games to have decent meta at all
and that might be hard to accomplish with me
way back in the day my meta was trying hard to look town/actually caring about the game = scum
then i spent a couple years subverting that on purpose
now i barely play anymore and i have no idea what i'm doing or what paradigm would make sense

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:46 pm
by gobbledygook
RC

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:46 pm
by gobbledygook
You need to out your neighbor to me, if at all possible.