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Post Post #3200 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:11 pm

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maybe if i go complain to the NRG i can get people to stop putting neos in games.
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Post Post #3201 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:13 pm

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In post 3175, votato wrote:
In post 3171, Zlair wrote:
In post 3167, votato wrote:also, pretty much every game i roll scum people say "you were obvscum" in postgame, yet i wasnt lynched.
I've noticed that. This is the 5th game I've played with votato where he was scum. He's won all 5.
heh i figured you were hectic. glad you could be on my team for once.
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Sakura having a meta of replacing out as town took a lot of heat off you
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Post Post #3202 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:29 pm

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One thing I learned from this game is scum really will replace out under suspicion.
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Post Post #3203 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:30 pm

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In post 3202, Blair wrote:One thing I learned from this game is scum really will replace out under suspicion.
Well no one wants to lose.
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Post Post #3204 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:53 pm

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Oh look a trust tell.
Oh look my slot was scum.

Seriously speaking tho, it's the first time I've ever gotten so emotional as scum to ragequit like that.
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Post Post #3205 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:00 pm

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I feel like the same would've happened as town and that doesnt give me good feelings.
Probably because ABR scares me as either alignment due to limited past experience and i end up saying things i dont mean to say just to avoid having to deal with his abrassiveness that I remember from years ago.
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Post Post #3206 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:01 pm

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GGs

Thank you for the host, GB.

Thanks for inviting me to play, Clair and Blair.

I’ll keep it brief. One sub is too many, but however many we had? It throws the game integrity out the window. Forget about it. And while subbing out for legitimate reasoning is fair game, as far as I can tell both Sakura and FL subbed out because they were appropriately suspected. That’s fucking bush league. I understand MS is it’s own thing, but they should be barred from playing future games for a period of time. That may sound harsh, but if they can sub out because they’re being suspected it puts the onus on the rest of the players to determine their alignment based on a meltdown. That’s not fair and it’s not fun. That’s angleshooting. Cheating. Again, game integrity.

So many PRs in a 13-player game also feels like too much. It increases variance to a nonsensical degree and “balancing” that isn’t possible. This is also my personal belief, but having to solve players on the underlying mechanics instead of what they posts dilutes the game, and what werewolf is. Some of you will probably laugh at this opinion and tell me to not take werewolf so seriously... But I play it for the mind games and social interactions, not to solve PR mechanics. But to each their own — I can tell the design in and of itself was made with thought so I’m grateful for that. Please don’t take this as a critique on the design (because again, “balance”) but instead my personal beliefs on how small games are best played. Seer13 or Mountainous are just the best.

I’m looking forward to playing with ABR again, guy is a sweetheart.
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Post Post #3207 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:01 pm

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Feels Bad, I really wanted to play scum with FL.
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Post Post #3208 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:03 pm

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Although like 10% of it was because I've been wanting to kill that stupid Trust Tell once and for all.
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Post Post #3209 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:05 pm

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In post 3205, Sakura Hana wrote:I feel like the same would've happened as town and that doesnt give me good feelings.
Probably because ABR scares me as either alignment due to limited past experience and i end up saying things i dont mean to say just to avoid having to deal with his abrassiveness that I remember from years ago.
we didnt even interact though?
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Post Post #3210 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:06 pm

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In post 3209, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3205, Sakura Hana wrote:I feel like the same would've happened as town and that doesnt give me good feelings.
Probably because ABR scares me as either alignment due to limited past experience and i end up saying things i dont mean to say just to avoid having to deal with his abrassiveness that I remember from years ago.
we didnt even interact though?
You got suspicious of me at the time i think? due to me not starting any fights with the lairs or FL and FB and you or something, and asked me about my read on FL, and I just decided to blurt out whatever would get you out of my hair.
Literally would've done the same thing as town.
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Post Post #3211 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:08 pm

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Which lead to my argument with Blair, which literally led to the exact same feelings I have when I get confronted like that when I'm town and that caused me into doing something I regreted immediately after I posted it, but since nowadays you cant take back replace out requests what was done was done and I had to leave.
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Post Post #3212 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:08 pm

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In post 3210, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3209, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3205, Sakura Hana wrote:I feel like the same would've happened as town and that doesnt give me good feelings.
Probably because ABR scares me as either alignment due to limited past experience and i end up saying things i dont mean to say just to avoid having to deal with his abrassiveness that I remember from years ago.
we didnt even interact though?
You got suspicious of me at the time i think? due to me not starting any fights with the lairs or FL and FB and you or something, and asked me about my read on FL, and I just decided to blurt out whatever would get you out of my hair.
Literally would've done the same thing as town.
lol was sad you subbed out
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Post Post #3213 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:09 pm

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The only relief I have is that I can finally stop becoming IC everytime i ragequit as town, although I hope ragequitting doesnt happen ever again, It's not good for my heart.
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Post Post #3214 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:12 pm

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In post 3212, Albert B. Rampage wrote:lol was sad you subbed out
I think you're a good scumhunter and i read your guide and look up to you.
However, I have bad memories of previous games with you where you've literally killed all the fun in the game for me, although not intentionally obviously and you probably werent even aware.
Sadly I dont remember exactly from where coz the only games I remember was the game where i was some sort of bulletproof vig where you were scum and that one dragon age mafia where i was on my alt Luna Fox and I was a cop.
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Post Post #3215 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:13 pm

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I guess your previous avatar was also scarier.
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Post Post #3216 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:15 pm

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But anyways, what's done is done, I did something that I shouldnt (yet again, although this time I wasnt town), and no matter how much I regret doing it, It's something that I did, so whatever happens to me will happen, and I'm just gonna probably take another break from Mafia.
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Post Post #3217 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:16 pm

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Scum Hunting isn’t that hard to do.
Least not for me.
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Post Post #3218 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:36 pm

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In post 3206, Flair wrote:So many PRs in a 13-player game also feels like too much.
there was 3?
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Post Post #3219 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:36 pm

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Personally, the scum team played very well. It was impossible to ascertain who was scum in this game in my opinion. I now think that I had been a bit hasty in placing stan1ey at L-1 and it was a good idea to take back my vote on Firebringer although it was a bad idea to vote there in the first place.
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Post Post #3220 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:47 am

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In post 3218, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3206, Flair wrote:So many PRs in a 13-player game also feels like too much.
there was 3?
Yes.
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Post Post #3221 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:51 am

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In post 3220, Flair wrote:
In post 3218, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3206, Flair wrote:So many PRs in a 13-player game also feels like too much.
there was 3?
Yes.
Actually, there were four counting the mafia rolestopper.
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Post Post #3222 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:52 am

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I enjoy mountainous setups as much as (probably more than) anyone, but Jailkeeper and Neapolitan vs Rolestopper in a 13p setup isn't too swingy at all - especially considering the Rolestopper significantly nerfs the utility of the Jailkeeper.
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Post Post #3223 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:26 am

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I replaced out because I didn't trust the game was legit as far as alts. Only reason. If I had continued to play I'm sure scum still would have won, they played well, and used the confusion to their advantage. I don't like to replace out and don't normally so I will count this as a loss on my record.
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Post Post #3224 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:38 am

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In post 3204, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh look a trust tell.
Oh look my slot was scum.

Seriously speaking tho, it's the first time I've ever gotten so emotional as scum to ragequit like that.
You proved the point that it wasn't a bad idea to town read you for it then. :P
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