TemporalLich's Grand Idea [Game Over]

[TemporalLich]

No one has been exiled...

There is a 72 hour Twilight Extension phase. It is now Twilight 6. Everyone still alive may talk during this phase.

Twilight 6 will end in (expired on 2021-03-26 13:50:00)

[Bell]

Oh hey. Good game you two.

I was town.

[Bell]

I guess Nono and Vax were both scum.

[Bell]

My general goal was to put scum in the position of having to claim their role to save themselves.
Since a town getting eliminated wouldn't have been as game ending as scum being eliminated so it was a point of leverage over them.

Unfortunately, they could just veto by no eliminating so they just rushed it through.

[Bell]

I was really thinking bell as the other town, but 3196 was on point. Im leaning nono as town now.

NDmath and Bell, you guys can shoot each other tonight.

VOTE: no elim

*snort*

[Bell]

Well, actually I still slighly lean Nono town.
Or I guess werewolf.
I guess he could have bussed Korina but it seemed largely unnecessary.

One of those.

[Bell]

mmm.

Vax was the easy elimination I think. The raya argument that he was a werewolf along with his win condition being one where he won when all the mafia in particular were dead seems to fit cleanly. that plus just generally low content and little interest in hunting.

It's the other one I couldn't figure out. Though it wouldn't surprise me too much if Vax was just weird town again.
I still remember death curse where he gave a take so divorced from reality that I couldn't comprehend him as being anything but scum.

As for my play in general, sorry for the middling to bad reads.
I was trying something new because I tend to think scum re more cookie cutter and unable to break out of that town-line mold.

Which is another point against Vax or having quite rigid thinking. Always courting the town line and afraid to step out of it in case it drew attention to himself.
I was being quite assertive or pushy with my opinions throughout the game so I can see why people would be afraid I was just....open wolfing or something?

[Bell]

I'll put vax down as scum and I'm not sure on NDmath and Nono.

Pretty much, I know the reason "why am I alive"
and it's simply because I'm a convenient measurement of what everyone needs to do to win.

[Bell]

I'm not sure how I feel about Vax and Nono just reading this day phase and having amnesia about the rest of the game.
It seems in line with their limited time.
I didn't really get the impression anyone else had iso'd the remaining players and tried to sort. They were more focused on the prize infront of them.

[Bell]

what?? twilight extender is a role,, not guaranteed to be scum, dislike you trying to turn people against each other,, for the last time, not twilight extender, IT DOESN’T MATTER though

right now, thinking vax is town,, vax, the other is me,, bell and maths are antitown, trying to get us to elim,, when elimming SCUM is bad, you’ve screwed up, we’ve screwed up x)

asked mod about my role, it’s better than i thought,, saying we have a chance now, put faith in nono VOTE: no elimination

Hmm. I guess everything I say now could be interpreted as wifom or meant to control who gets shot.

Mostly I'm just interested in guessing the last 2 scum at this point.

Vax yes.

Ndmah had Raya and angry pidgeon's pretty high up there. Bu they were on opposite factions. They voed pooky for what I would call an anti-town vote which was an appropriae but ultimately blameless vote. Which I tend o think scum look out for those sorts of opportunities.

I'm still trying to figure out who was bussing or if anyone bussed.

[Bell]

I don't put faith in anyone. btw.
So, I will not put faith in you if you're town.

[Bell]

Well the more I think on this the more I worry my reads are upside down again.
I know I shouldn't be taking this seriously, but I am very serious about having fun.
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to unlock the solve for this one tho.

[Bell]

Pretty much town loses next day phase in the following scenarios:

During the day that just ended:
Town lose if scum is eliminated.
Town do not lose if town is eliminated.
Scum lose if they are eliminated. But the other faction wins barring shenanigans.

Both town get shot. Town loses.
1 town gets shot and 1 scum gets shot. If there are two-anti-town factions. We lose.

If both scum get shot we win.


The reason I wanted to threaten an elimination is because if both scum are identified it becomes less about whether they know who to shoot and it becomes more about whether they want to let town win or not.

I's kind of convoluted reasoning though.

[Vaxkiller]

Bell, your content on whole is better than nono, mostly because there is more of it. But because there is more of it and it's consistent (at least the stuff I have been keeping up with in the past game day) I can't help but think your town.

nono's post got me in the feels, because he was saying EVERYthing I was feeling, and it gave a little extra hope at the end. Re-reading it makes me reconsider.

THe best thing we can do at this point is to help the scum find each other.


NDmath is scum.

THe scum inside bell/nono needs to shoot there.
But who does ndmath shoot? I want to figure that out, so ndmath has that information and shoots so we win.

I suppose 1 of the scum could just game throw, but that would not be in the spirit of the game, and likely going against win con? Debatable.

[Vaxkiller]

Ohhh, I see. You think scum will both shoot town? BUt wouldnt they think the other scum may be shooting them (if they know who they are) and want to shoot there? Id be too fearful of that.

[Vaxkiller]

Ugh, actually, scum could totally just come out and say they are scum and ask across the table so to speak.

[Vaxkiller]

ooof

Ill be on in a bit, works calling

[NDMath]

what?? twilight extender is a role,, not guaranteed to be scum, dislike you trying to turn people against each other,, for the last time, not twilight extender, IT DOESN’T MATTER though

Both you and vax are screaming this, but neither have disproven me.
If not scum, where are the twilight extensions coming from?

I was really thinking bell as the other town, but 3196 was on point. Im leaning nono as town now.

NDmath and Bell, you guys can shoot each other tonight.

VOTE: no elim

This is thonk
1 quickhammer so you don't get elim'd
2 no actual protown reason for the quickhammer
3 pocket the other scum so you hopefully don't get shot
4 in the process call the two players who can't both be scum both scum

but sure me and bell will shoot eachother

As for my play in general, sorry for the middling to bad reads.
I was trying something new because I tend to think scum re more cookie cutter and unable to break out of that town-line mold.

Don't feel too bad -- your reads were still better than mind.
I kind of think I was at fault for the guillo hang even though I wasn't there that day.

Pretty much town loses next day phase in the following scenarios:

During the day that just ended:
Town lose if scum is eliminated.
Town do not lose if town is eliminated.
Scum lose if they are eliminated. But the other faction wins barring shenanigans.

Both town get shot. Town loses.
1 town gets shot and 1 scum gets shot. If there are two-anti-town factions. We lose.

If both scum get shot we win.


The reason I wanted to threaten an elimination is because if both scum are identified it becomes less about whether they know who to shoot and it becomes more about whether they want to let town win or not.

I's kind of convoluted reasoning though.

Day probably plays out smoother if you had explained the plan like this.
Though nono and vax would probably still hammer in no elim on us.

[Nono]

I'm not sure how I feel about Vax and Nono just reading this day phase and having amnesia about the rest of the game.
It seems in line with their limited time.
I didn't really get the impression anyone else had iso'd the remaining players and tried to sort. They were more focused on the prize infront of them.

not doing meta,, don’t know anyone, nor know the configuration so “sorting” is pointless,, trying to find a way not to lose

bell’s plan, cross-voting, if wrong, immediately loses the game xD IT’S SO BAD

maybe it’s me, still makes no sense,, whatever, am happy with my choice, don’t act like town lost

[Nono]

note; read with happy tone,, am not mad or trying to offend)

let’s roll the dice

[Bell]

It honestly would have been better for me to self-vote then to no eliminate because it would have reduced the odds of town getting shot.

[Bell]

If you were trying to find a way not to lose I don't think I saw you trying to do that.
You asked other people to outsource that thinking for you.

[NDMath]

note; read with happy tone,, am not mad or trying to offend)

let’s roll the dice

(clarification good)
Yeah, if you are town i disagree with that vote but no point in arguing about it.

It honestly would have been better for me to self-vote then to no eliminate because it would have reduced the odds of town getting shot.

Pretty sure neither of them are gonna be shooting you

[NDMath]

good talk

[Bell]

Yup.
May fortune favor me and whoever the other town is.