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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:32 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 3170, InsidiousLemons wrote:can you elaborate on your thoughts on anya?
@pooky still waiting on a response to this

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:36 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 3198, Andante wrote:UNVOTE:
cool. were there any posts in particular struck you as town AI for koba or are you just being indecisive again

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:37 pm
by Andante
In post 3201, InsidiousLemons wrote:
In post 3198, Andante wrote:UNVOTE:
cool. were there any posts in particular struck you as town AI for koba or are you just being indecisive again

more like I think pooky is right, vig can live another day...

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:42 pm
by clidd
Ok, I finished my catch up.

It wasn't exactly page-by-page, but individual-iso (including predecessors) and this is the slot most likely to be scum imo:

VOTE: T3

I don't intend to go into details, but Haschel's behavior before the substitution was very apathetic in the sense of wim and uncharacteristic with the competence that I imagine town!Haschel has. With the entry of T3 things have not changed much, considering the shallow participation/reasoning, but I still see Haschel as scummy independent of him.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:45 pm
by Andante
In post 3203, clidd wrote:Ok, I finished my catch up.

It wasn't exactly page-by-page, but individual-iso (including predecessors) and this is the slot most likely to be scum imo:

VOTE: T3

I don't intend to go into details, but Haschel's behavior before the substitution was very apathetic in the sense of wim and uncharacteristic with the competence that I imagine town!Haschel has. With the entry of T3 things have not changed much, considering the shallow participation/reasoning, but I still see Haschel as scummy independent of him.

Same, my initial T3 stuff was mostly from Haschel, like Haschel's lines alone... are bad lol and I don't think T3 has really helped the slot, and my reason I slightly TR him, I looked into it, and it doesn't exactly hold true here, idk I'd be down to yeet him, especially if he's not caring to play.. like, he only shows up when there's talk of yeeting him

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:53 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 3203, clidd wrote:Ok, I finished my catch up.

It wasn't exactly page-by-page, but individual-iso (including predecessors) and this is the slot most likely to be scum imo:

VOTE: T3

I don't intend to go into details, but Haschel's behavior before the substitution was very apathetic in the sense of wim and uncharacteristic with the competence that I imagine town!Haschel has. With the entry of T3 things have not changed much, considering the shallow participation/reasoning, but I still see Haschel as scummy independent of him.
can we get a quick rundown of your general feelings on the validity of asteria and koba's claims? i've said a couple times now (and i believe other
have as well) that i view {asteria, koba} as almost certainly containing at least one scum, due to the number of guns in the game not matching the fact that there are 3 PR claims plus (likely) 2 gunned maf. where do you stand on the matter?

if T3 has to be the compromise i do think it's quite likely he's scum, but as has been said, a red flip gives us no info to go off of on anyone else.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:01 pm
by clidd
@Andante

The thing with T3 is that he probably has the same playstyle in both alignments, so I don't know if he's going to townspew here (unless a conscious effort takes place on his part).

So it would be interesting at least to have a threat (wagon) on the slot to make him feel the need to play. If he's town, we should have no trouble identifying that.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:08 pm
by clidd
@Lemons

If there is scum between them, it's probably Dk. GC losing motivation and using logic excessively to criticize/reject accusations is something that I have seen from scum!GC in a past game, although it also happened with town!GC. But, again, comparatively speaking, Dk + GC are less towny than Asteria.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:10 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3200, InsidiousLemons wrote:
In post 3170, InsidiousLemons wrote:can you elaborate on your thoughts on anya?
@pooky still waiting on a response to this
she feels surface level and not really trying

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:12 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 3001, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2999, InsidiousLemons wrote:also does your reasoning for wanting anya dead go beyond "she's on the asteria wagon"

anya feels very surface level and barely playing the game
In post 3208, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3200, InsidiousLemons wrote:
In post 3170, InsidiousLemons wrote:can you elaborate on your thoughts on anya?
@pooky still waiting on a response to this
she feels surface level and not really trying
yeah okay you said this not too long ago my bad

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:13 pm
by DkKoba
is it scummy?

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:15 pm
by clidd
Regarding Dk(in isolation), nothing they have done so far is outside their town/scum range.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:18 pm
by Andante
In post 3211, clidd wrote:Regarding Dk(in isolation), nothing they have done so far is outside their town/scum range.
Glad we have determined Koba is town or scum, I was worried there for a second we had a 3rd party...

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:21 pm
by clidd
It's like this:

GC=Scummy
Dk=Null
Asteria=Towny

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:22 pm
by Andante
so Scummy + Null = the slot is scum?

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:35 pm
by clidd
No, but if there has to be scum between the two that Lemon mentioned, Dk is the likely choice by PoE.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:38 pm
by clidd
Unless I'm wrong about Asteria, but that's my "gun to head" speculation.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:58 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange

Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:01 pm
by clidd
But I still prefer T3. A scumread by play is more valid to me than a mech-spec elim.

pedit: That's true.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:03 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 3207, clidd wrote:@Lemons

If there is scum between them, it's probably Dk. GC losing motivation and using logic excessively to criticize/reject accusations is something that I have seen from scum!GC in a past game, although it also happened with town!GC. But, again, comparatively speaking, Dk + GC are less towny than Asteria.
In post 3211, clidd wrote:Regarding Dk(in isolation), nothing they have done so far is outside their town/scum range.
In post 3217, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange

Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game
this is all good meta info. i would agree that the combo of crayons + koba is less town than asteria, though it makes me feel a bit better about the slot to hear from a (presumably) neutral perspective that this isn't out of the ordinary for koba.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:04 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 3218, clidd wrote:But I still prefer T3. A scumread by play is more valid to me than a mech-spec elim.

pedit: That's true.
i am willing to start running t3 up at this point. we need to get them in this thread somehow

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:05 pm
by InsidiousLemons
VOTE: T3

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:06 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 3210, DkKoba wrote:is it scummy?
what post/user is this directed at

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:12 pm
by Andante
In post 3217, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange

Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game

omg no... my cat is my baby!!!! For my cat's safety, we might have to get Koba here....

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:12 pm
by Andante
VOTE: T3

show up and prove you're town. thanks