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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:39 am
by Gamma Emerald
Yeah I kinda making an assumption again
However I
really
am starting to feel like moon has some inside info on this alleged no-kill plot

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:40 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3199, Moongrass wrote:I have discussed lots of things so saying my focus has been on one throw away point about the no kill is an exaggeration.
I don’t think it’s the ONLY thing you’ve mentioned
I just think you’re on of the leaders in that conversation

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:40 am
by Titus
Ugh. I just saw a minor problem with my House Cyrus scumread. Unless Cyrus didn't mention the sig bet thing, then it's unlikely their partners. Yet their push and jabs read fake to me.

:/ I think it's more likely that House and Cyrus didn't run it past each other but a reasonable person could see it differently.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:40 am
by Moongrass
Well that's impossible given I have no idea what the scumteam are doing which may point to Cyrus being on the team (no offense)

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:42 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3199, Moongrass wrote:my assumption there are only two PRs in the game.
...
WHAT???

HOW DID YOU REACH THIS COLCLUSION?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:42 am
by Gamma Emerald
I’ll say Titus’ posting toDay has been kinda towny

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:43 am
by Titus
In post 3204, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3199, Moongrass wrote:my assumption there are only two PRs in the game.
...
WHAT???

HOW DID YOU REACH THIS COLCLUSION?
Not going to answer this for Moon, but I have suspected this myself.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:43 am
by Moongrass
One thing I do know is that the nom kill was intended to set up my mislim in the days following. I do not like Cyrus opening D2 with "this seems like a set up" and I do not like house bringing up nom's last post D1 to put gasoline on my wagon today.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:44 am
by Moongrass
In post 3204, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3199, Moongrass wrote:my assumption there are only two PRs in the game.
...
WHAT???

HOW DID YOU REACH THIS COLCLUSION?
So we start the game with two townstumps. They each get to pick a PR = 2 PRs.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:45 am
by Titus
In post 3205, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’ll say Titus’ posting toDay has been kinda towny
I have a break from my insanity. I'll be largely AFK from this game tomorrow (won't keep up with game speed). But tomorrow I should have more time as well.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:45 am
by Titus
In post 3208, Moongrass wrote:
In post 3204, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3199, Moongrass wrote:my assumption there are only two PRs in the game.
...
WHAT???

HOW DID YOU REACH THIS COLCLUSION?
So we start the game with two townstumps. They each get to pick a PR = 2 PRs.
That doesn't exclude us from having more PRs.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:47 am
by cyrus62
yep so theres your scum team moon and titus. both frail and push for easy lynch . hears a hint and warning to all n. im not afraid to self hammer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:48 am
by Moongrass
I assume it does because having 2 townstumps is a big boon already plus 2 added PRs seems hard to balance with 3 scum roles. But again, I'm not a mechanically strong player.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:48 am
by Gamma Emerald
Yeah
I thought there was something explicitly stating Jingle would create a setup around the stumps’ submissions but there isn’t

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:49 am
by Titus
In Attorney Phoenix fashion, I actually just got a theory that we have exactly two PRs but the mods designed this game with horrible balance unless they included a lawyer or something like that.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:49 am
by Gamma Emerald
That was meant to be in response to Titus

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:51 am
by Titus
@Gamma, do you want to hear my theory?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:51 am
by cyrus62
so if you push me to try to advance reads it wont work. and fyi i dont care if its anti town or not i have bleed town this game so lack of trust warrents a town lost.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:56 am
by Titus
If we suppose that Gamma, mastina, not mafia, and DGB are all clear, which they are under my theory (despite my mastina by read play is still hot garbage until I verify jjh).

That leaves us with me, cyrus, house, jjh, the hydra, and moongrass.

We miseliminate.
notmafia clears another name in the pool.
Scum kill DGB.

We're at 7 alive with 2 scum.
We have 4 names in the possible pool.
We miseliminate.
Scum kill Gamma (again sake of argument, any conftown besides not mafia works).
Not mafia clears another name in the pool.

We're at 5 alive with two scum.
2 names left in the pool.

Unless my math is off, I don't see how scum can win unless they have a secondary role that can bypass not mafia and I don't see that happening.

I think this game was just designed with crappy balance.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:57 am
by cyrus62
not advanceing my reads i havent pushed gramma mistina or nm in two days

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:58 am
by Titus
Cyrus, how can town lose here?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:59 am
by Titus
In post 3218, Titus wrote:If we suppose that Gamma, mastina, not mafia, and DGB are all clear, which they are under my theory (despite my mastina by read play is still hot garbage until I verify jjh).

That leaves us with me, cyrus, house, jjh, the hydra, and moongrass.

We miseliminate.
notmafia clears another name in the pool.
Scum kill DGB.

We're at 7 alive with 2 scum.
We have 4 names in the possible pool.
We miseliminate.
Scum kill Gamma (again sake of argument, any conftown besides not mafia works).
Not mafia clears another name in the pool.

We're at 5 alive with two scum.
2 names left in the pool.

Unless my math is off, I don't see how scum can win unless they have a secondary role that can bypass not mafia and I don't see that happening.

I think this game was just designed with crappy balance.
My math is bad. I shorted us a body lol.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:00 am
by Titus
Oh wait... there is one way we lose here. Crap.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:02 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3216, Titus wrote:@Gamma, do you want to hear my theory?
Hell yeah!
I’ve played all of AA 5 and 6 (minus 6’s special episode which I’m on the first investigation of) so I’m a sucker for a good Thought Route

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:04 am
by Gamma Emerald
Spoiler: Music for the occasion