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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:45 am
by Siveure DtTrikyp
If cait is hanging way back and not doing damage, either their frontline is hanging out of the fight in which case it's a stomp/not a fight, or they're busy with your frontline. If they're busy and you walk up a little and start dealing damage, how likely are they to stop and go for you? I doubt that's all too likely.
For most other adcs, the distance you have to move up when hanging back so far is a large tradeoff. For cait it kindof isn't.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:02 am
by Iecerint
I didn't realize those gapclosers were so ginormous, though. They certainly don't feel that monstrous in-game for whatever reason.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:28 am
by BROseidon
In post 32176, Iecerint wrote:I didn't realize those gapclosers were so ginormous, though. They certainly don't feel that monstrous in-game for whatever reason.
Since spells are from center of model and AAs are from range, they're a little shorter in-range than the numbers indicate, but yeah, gap closers are huge.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:30 am
by BROseidon
In post 32175, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:If cait is hanging way back and not doing damage, either their frontline is hanging out of the fight in which case it's a stomp/not a fight, or they're busy with your frontline. If they're busy and you walk up a little and start dealing damage, how likely are they to stop and go for you? I doubt that's all too likely.
If the j4/irelia/vi/w/e is competent?
They aren't blowing their gap closer until either the ADC or APC is in range unless you absolutely force them to somehow, and that usually requires a catch.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:31 am
by BROseidon
In the mid game, the ADC still has a chance b/c the j4 or w/e isn't gonna be tanky enough to soak up damage forever, but once the j4/vi/w/e has a few tank items, it's over.
ADCs aren't objectively that useful in team fights. If it weren't for turret pushing and how potent ADCs are in 2v2 lanes, you wouldn't need ADCs on every team comp.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:39 am
by pickemgenius
please never talk in this thread again.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:53 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
Don't be mean to people.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:26 pm
by pickemgenius
Yes I'll just let idiocy run rampant.
You're right i'd rather people spout out stupid shit over and over.
If you think I'm being mean you have literally no fucking idea.
Don't get on some moral high ground here bud.
Don't be a smart person saying stupid shit for everyone's sake.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:30 pm
by EspeciallyTheLies
Or.. you could behave like an adult instead of an impudent child. There's no need for that here.
Edit: Point is, LoL is a fun game. There's enough jerks on there, why should anyone come here, where there's an established community of people with similar interests in things other than just League, and be treated the same way? Even if what he said was stupid, there are better ways of pointing it out. Or, you know, not at all.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:41 pm
by Iecerint
The perspective that ADCs needed a team fight buff before 4.10 was actually pretty widespread and contributed to the AD/Randuin itemization changes.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:44 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 32183, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Or.. you could behave like an adult instead of an impudent child. There's no need for that here.
Edit:
Point is, LoL is a fun game.
There's enough jerks on there, why should anyone come here, where there's an established community of people with similar interests in things other than just League, and be treated the same way? Even if what he said was stupid, there are better ways of pointing it out. Or, you know, not at all.
The bolded is at contest here.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:46 pm
by BROseidon
It's funny b/c it's fairly obvious that I'm a better player than you who knows more about the game than you by a substantial margin.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:49 pm
by BROseidon
In post 32184, Iecerint wrote:The perspective that ADCs needed a team fight buff before 4.10 was actually pretty widespread and contributed to the AD/Randuin itemization changes.
This.
LiftLift has been complaining about how little ADCs can do in team fights for like over a year. I think it was before season 3 that Riot basically said to ADCs "you no longer get to 2-shot tanks in team fights."
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:04 pm
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 32185, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: In post 32183, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Or.. you could behave like an adult instead of an impudent child. There's no need for that here.
Edit:
Point is, LoL is a fun game.
There's enough jerks on there, why should anyone come here, where there's an established community of people with similar interests in things other than just League, and be treated the same way? Even if what he said was stupid, there are better ways of pointing it out. Or, you know, not at all.
The bolded is at contest here.
fun for me! I just got lvl20!
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:16 pm
by Glork
In post 32188, EspeciallyTheLies wrote: In post 32185, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: In post 32183, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Or.. you could behave like an adult instead of an impudent child. There's no need for that here.
Edit:
Point is, LoL is a fun game.
There's enough jerks on there, why should anyone come here, where there's an established community of people with similar interests in things other than just League, and be treated the same way? Even if what he said was stupid, there are better ways of pointing it out. Or, you know, not at all.
The bolded is at contest here.
fun for me! I just got lvl20!
Oh, to be young again.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:24 pm
by KaleiÐoscøpe
OK, so I threw every game on my placement matches by playing Zilean Support trying to get into low bronze so I can experience the climb and play with my other Bronze5 friends
Manage to go 4-6 by not doing anything
Got placed into S4.
Now I wished I actually tried.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:35 pm
by RayFrost
If it's your first time doing placements, you really should try your best.
I mean, you should probably try your best in general. It takes active throwing to reach bronze.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:24 pm
by EspeciallyTheLies
5 rod of ages was suggested for Brand on ARAM. Just tried it on Swain. Most awesome build ever. XD FOREVERRAVEN
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:30 pm
by Saki
Toxicity corresponds with size of premades.
I wish there was a box I could check that said "match me with solo-queued players only."
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:05 pm
by Siveure DtTrikyp
What the hell saki.
The main way toxicity manifests is flaming. Fire spreads.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:31 pm
by MrZepher
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:40 pm
by BROseidon
Hey Zeph, you can talk when you hit plat.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:01 pm
by Flameaxe
Reported.
Is this the way to LoL thread now?
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:05 pm
by Iecerint
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:11 pm
by Flameaxe
TOUCHE, SIR.