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↑ Saki wrote:I somewhat caused the Thor wagon but I'm uncomfortable with the speed at which it got larger

Exactly.

Conversely, Thor ignoring it completely is also troublesome.

@TD- I'd like to hear why you have Thor as town, especially with regards to 3207.

I've had Thor as town through most of this game, mostly due to him being relatively open about his thought process, it looking towny to me, and me being able to follow it.

I've been super busy lately and haven't really read 3207 in depth yet. I'll fix that at some point today.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:Conversely, Thor ignoring it completely is also troublesome.

Are you kidding me?
I addressed his lack of a case the instant he offered it.

Then I went from L-6 to L-1 in the space of "this morning while I wasn't around"

This is called an obvious move by scum - what the hell are you smoking over there dork-head?

Oh, Pere means his case, not the lack case.

Pere's case is derp mixed with paranoia - there's nothing to say about it because you're citing true things - the conclusion is wrong, but there's no actual way to argue that other than "I disagree with the conclusion and could have done it all smoother if it was an actual scum minded plot" A scum plot. I'll add, that doesn't match my meta as scum if I bother to try to defend. But...meh.

The case i dumb.
The wagon is opportunistic.
I'm too lazy to fight it hard for you all because I've been part of too many derp mislynches lately and just can't bring myself to care when bad play is happening other than to note it is bad play.
The wagon movement is obvious for what it is - I shouldn't need to even defend myself.

Also, it is easy to read Doublade and disabuse yourself of the Thor=Doublade's buddy theory pretty easily.

In poking back through to see if I got a response I went and looked at date/times. Holy CATS! did the thread get dead quiet once I went to L-1. Because, that's what a wagon on town looks like, right everyone?

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:The fact that he is so inconsistent with his reads and provides no reasoning for his switches leads me to think Jon is scum.

In the one post where I was inconsistent with the Eddie read, I made that post over a period of several hours. I added to it as I was reading different parts of the thread. The reason I even mentioned Eddie again was because TD had scum read him. I went back and read Eddie's ISO and added the comment about him not looking that scummy.

Any other inconsistencies you'd like to bring up, I'll answer to the best of my abilities, if you're interested.

@ Thor Who is scum, and who is dumb Town on your wagon? I have a feeling there's scum on it, whether they're bussing or not.

↑ Thor665 wrote:Also, it is easy to read Doublade and disabuse yourself of the Thor=Doublade's buddy theory pretty easily.

Normally I would, but even Titus was bussing it/them. Figured that he was the desginated bus of the scumteam, which lessened any towncred I might attribute to you for the interaction, and more easily explains his distancing from scum-you.

Also, I didn't read him in his entirety, but the section I read for my case above he never really pushes you for scum (see 3007), and his votes for you are just that- votes only.

↑ Thor665 wrote:In poking back through to see if I got a response I went and looked at date/times. Holy CATS! did the thread get dead quiet once I went to L-1. Because, that's what a wagon on town looks like, right everyone?

It was dead before that.

The wagon on you did build up fast.

If your town, scum is holding their breath waiting for town to hammer.

If your scum, scum is holding their breath to see if you get out of it.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:Normally I would, but even Titus was bussing it/them. Figured that he was the desginated bus of the scumteam, which lessened any towncred I might attribute to you for the interaction, and more easily explains his distancing from scum-you.

Also, I didn't read him in his entirety, but the section I read for my case above he never really pushes you for scum (see 3007), and his votes for you are just that- votes only.

I feel like you're looking brilliance in the face and are too blinded to see it.
Yes - I agree he did what you're saying he did. Extrapolate that for a second.

↑ jon_h61 wrote:@ Thor Who is scum, and who is dumb Town on your wagon? I have a feeling there's scum on it, whether they're bussing or not.

I already ahve.
Heck, I'm even voting one of them.
Are you kidding me?
Stop fake-working. I'm not buying it.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:The wagon on you did build up fast.

If your town, scum is holding their breath waiting for town to hammer.

If your scum, scum is holding their breath to see if you get out of it.

Oh my gawd, really? Sure - yeah, that's what is happening.

↑ Thor665 wrote:Oh, Pere means his case, not the lack case.

Pere's case is derp mixed with paranoia - there's nothing to say about it because you're citing true things - the conclusion is wrong, but there's no actual way to argue that other than "I disagree with the conclusion and could have done it all smoother if it was an actual scum minded plot" A scum plot. I'll add, that doesn't match my meta as scum if I bother to try to defend. But...meh.

I disagree on this. It was actually very smooth- so much so that I'm not 100% convinced of it's validity. I could just be derpy and paranoid (not sarcasm BTW)

↑ Thor665 wrote:The case i dumb.
The wagon is opportunistic.
I'm too lazy to fight it hard for you all because I've been part of too many derp mislynches lately and just can't bring myself to care when bad play is happening other than to note it is bad play.
The wagon movement is obvious for what it is - I shouldn't need to even defend myself.

The wagon is already up for investigation no matter what.
The case I asked for semi-independent review because getting ignored 90% of the time and getting 5 votes the other 10% bugs me.

↑ Thor665 wrote:I feel like you're looking brilliance in the face and are too blinded to see it.
Yes - I agree he did what you're saying he did. Extrapolate that for a second.

I probably am. I miss subtleties all the time.

He could be trying to soft a connection between you to incriminate you after his flip.

But, I don't think he was ever anywhere near a lynch, so why bother?

And why pick you when there are much easier, juicier targets?

And who besides me ever looks at dead scum posts?

↑ PeregrineV wrote:I disagree on this. It was actually very smooth- so much so that I'm not 100% convinced of it's validity. I could just be derpy and paranoid (not sarcasm BTW)

If you open your commentary with 'I disagree' and end it with a comment that is, functionally, 'I agree' then...I feel like my point is made.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:I probably am. I miss subtleties all the time.

He could be trying to soft a connection between you to incriminate you after his flip.

But, I don't think he was ever anywhere near a lynch, so why bother?

And why pick you when there are much easier, juicier targets?

And who besides me ever looks at dead scum posts?

It's not a Newbie, and as I said, I don't care enough to argue it. If you can't see it now, then lynch me and learn. I am trying to get over the attitude of trying to teach constantly.
His actions towards me were blatantly not buddy/buddy and a quick analysis of the Titus ones should show you that. if it doesn't then nothing I say can change that.

Hell, you read page 129 and still have your vote on me. You probably do need this lynch to teach you the lesson.

Either way, would prefer an unvote or 2 on the Thor wagon while TD responds.

↑ jon_h61 wrote:

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:The fact that he is so inconsistent with his reads and provides no reasoning for his switches leads me to think Jon is scum.

In the one post where I was inconsistent with the Eddie read, I made that post over a period of several hours. I added to it as I was reading different parts of the thread. The reason I even mentioned Eddie again was because TD had scum read him. I went back and read Eddie's ISO and added the comment about him not looking that scummy.

Any other inconsistencies you'd like to bring up, I'll answer to the best of my abilities, if you're interested.

@ Thor Who is scum, and who is dumb Town on your wagon? I have a feeling there's scum on it, whether they're bussing or not.

Well as I brought up you've been wishy washy on Each. You've gone from stating we are town to all but saying we are cojf scum. You've yet to state why you thought Eddie and thenecro was scum or why you now town read them. You are throwing reads in every direction but giving no logic or reason behind them. So its impossible to tell where you are coming from.

↑ Thor665 wrote:Hell, you read page 129 and still have your vote on me. You probably do need this lynch to teach you the lesson.

No, I don't. I prefer an EddieFenix/newguy lynch. Case was provided by request. My belief in it's strength is such that I didn't even vote you, so I really don't want you dead right now.

You're right, you're not voting me - that's even worse, your case is being sheeped but not your vote. Yup, total town movement. No scum there.

Vote Jon with me.

And I still havn't addressed your case - for anyone liking that as a scumtell.

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↑ jon_h61 wrote:

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:The fact that he is so inconsistent with his reads and provides no reasoning for his switches leads me to think Jon is scum.

In the one post where I was inconsistent with the Eddie read, I made that post over a period of several hours. I added to it as I was reading different parts of the thread. The reason I even mentioned Eddie again was because TD had scum read him. I went back and read Eddie's ISO and added the comment about him not looking that scummy.

Any other inconsistencies you'd like to bring up, I'll answer to the best of my abilities, if you're interested.

@ Thor Who is scum, and who is dumb Town on your wagon? I have a feeling there's scum on it, whether they're bussing or not.

Well as I brought up you've been wishy washy on Each. You've gone from stating we are town to all but saying we are cojf scum. You've yet to state why you thought Eddie and thenecro was scum or why you now town read them. You are throwing reads in every direction but giving no logic or reason behind them. So its impossible to tell where you are coming from.

I really need to set up a different browser on all my devices for this account.

↑ Thor665 wrote:You're right, you're not voting me - that's even worse, your case is being sheeped but not your vote. Yup, total town movement. No scum there.

No doubt there is scum on your wagon-3234

Vote Jon with me.

Sure.

↑ Thor665 wrote:I already ahve.Heck, I'm even voting one of them.Are you kidding me?Stop fake-working. I'm not buying it.

Yet, when I ISOd you, I noticed where I was the best wagon and the worst wagon, and everything in between.

I think you're scum posturing, so we're both guilty of what the other's accusing the other of. But I know my Role PM, and it has nothing to do with scum.

↑ jon_h61 wrote:

↑ Thor665 wrote:I already ahve.Heck, I'm even voting one of them.Are you kidding me?Stop fake-working. I'm not buying it.

Yet, when I ISOd you, I noticed where I was the best wagon and the worst wagon, and everything in between.

I think you're scum posturing, so we're both guilty of what the other's accusing the other of. But I know my Role PM, and it has nothing to do with scum.

You have Thor, Dry-Fit, Jordan & Rach as scum, with Saki, me and TD as town, correct?