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DS, why not give a reads list sooner rather than later?

It'll give people more time to swing the lynch, if necessary.

Maybe tomorrow. Right now, I'm just switching between this and homework.

In post 3219, DiamondSentinel wrote:@Zulfy - I didn't say that. Someone said that about me. I always beat the lurker drum because (again) in MGSV, PV was able to survive and win as part of the scumteam because he prodged literally the entire game.

Yes, yes, and hiplop agreed with you, see.

As for "it's good to slow down a wagon that seems like it'll blow straight through", look.

Somebody: "it's good to slow down a wagon that seems like it'll blow straight through"
You: "No that's wrong."
You: "It's good to slow down a wagon that seems like it'll blow straight through"
You: "It's to slow down a wagon that seems like it'll blow straight through"
You: "I was once in a game where the wagon blew straight through. That player was townie."
You: "I was once in that same game, the wagon was slowed down and I, a mafia player, was not lynched. Mafia won."
Me: "So when the wagon is slowed down, that player will not be lynched, but when the wagon is not slowed down, that player can get speedlynched?"
You (back then): "Hey so Firebringer, you are trying to slow down my lynch.'
You (just now): "Slowing down a wagon can give the targeted player a chance to wiggle out of it."
Me: "Okay, so in this case firebringer is trying to slow down the wagon of you, to give you a chance to wiggle out of it? But why would he do that? You just gave me an anecdote about that happening when you and your partner where scum, are you implying you are scum with firebringer?"
You: I'm not gonna change your mind.

Please tell me if I'm getting things incorrect here.

And to top things off you firebringer for that, yea? You're wearing me out here, DiamondSentinel.

Notice folks, I am writing out usernames completely so they are easier to look up in that nifty search bar there. You are welcome future replace-ins.

Zulfy, besides the fact that it was a tracker result and not a cop result, there was no reason the wagon shouldn't have blown through. The kid had never really been townread, and it was entirely sound. They didn't even deny visiting them. The roles could very easily have been reversed and the situation would have ended up the exact same.


(also, that's not him slowing the wagon on me. It was him slowing the wagon based on his own fake-guilty. That's a major fact you are missing)

He was slowing down the wagon based on his own fake-guilty on Spiffeh.

In post 3214, Zulfy wrote:@Broseidon it says here in your iso that you think mafia is a game of emotion more than logic but that hardly excuses your absolutely empty case against DS.

My case isn't empty?

I've stated the high-level reasons, and the details are in the subtext of a lot of what I've done and what I've said to DS.

You mean the constant insults, bitching, and strawman arguments?

My mind is incapable of picking up on your subtext BROseidon, help me out here please.

A singular "high-level reason" will do.

Oh wait, was firebringer's fakeguilty on Spiffeh?
Alrighty then. Apologies.

In post 352, DiamondSentinel wrote:hiplop... There are 2, maybe 3. You are overreacting.

VOTE: hiplop

Two to three votes on hiplop, so hiplop is overreacting to his distaste of those votes, and that makes him scummy, I think is what you two have going on here.

Can you elaborate on your scumread on hiplop? I understand getting riled up by BROseidon can be fun but please don't get distracted.

In post 521, Grib wrote:

In post 503, keyenpeydee wrote:One thing I noticed that after the fight between Grib and Hiplop, Hiplop became silent? Feeling triumph? And why y'all voting for MJ? and why y'all not voting for hippy when he acted really weird?

Why aren't

you

voting for hiplop, then?

Why are you sheeping the MJ vote?

Keyenpeydee, Grib makes a good point. I'm sure you answered it somewhere and would like your help with finding that answer.

Anyway Grib, you've been scumreading hiplop, jokingly or otherwise, basically the whole game. I see a thing in here about him citing his sources in regards to SnarkySnowman. Is there anything else?

In post 3232, DiamondSentinel wrote:strawman arguments

I feel like you don't know what this means.

Welp that's it from me tonight kindred. I'll see you all some other day.

Pedit: BROseidon I hope you're here to fulfill my request.

In post 3233, Zulfy wrote:My mind is incapable of picking up on your subtext BROseidon, help me out here please.

A singular "high-level reason" will do.

Because he's scum. /thread

Here's my post to Aristophanes when he asked me:

In post 3102, BROseidon wrote:

In post 3091, Aristophanes wrote:

In post 3090, BROseidon wrote:MoI you can take the bullshit you keep peddling about me and shove it right up your ass.

Ah good, Bro is being helpful. Lol
I do totally agree though. MoI, I really dislike your discrediting on a Friendly Neighbour clear this early in the game.

Talk to me my friend! MJ obviously townreads you or they wouldn't confirm to you,and you are both on DS. What makes them scum to you?

It's a handful of things.

His response to FB's fake guilty on Spiffeh is super bullshit - it looks like DS preparing for an inno flip because "omg Spiffeh/camntsuki so town by play." Like, that's never a reason to not trust or discredit a guilty result because people have wrong reads all the time, and not having self-awareness of that is obviously not a realistic thing to expect.

His play in the game has, in general, been disruptive and non-productive. His reads are relatively static, and he doesn't seem to take into consideration new information.

Plus he just says a lot of incredibly dumb shit that I wouldn't expect town to say on questioning fairly fundamental theory points. Usually that sort of shit comes from scum (hiplop should remember Chicagomeet where literally only scum asked me in Deathnote's Deathnote game why I started the game out by claiming hated, as if a hated townie should ever start the game not claiming immediately. DS has been doing shit like that)

I'll wait for you to tell me your read on hiplop, if that's okay.

I will read the above post later. The post above this other post

Pedit: He's looking kinda scummy I think.

Im town af

Literally conftown w. Nachi flip

In post 3235, Zulfy wrote:

In post 352, DiamondSentinel wrote:hiplop... There are 2, maybe 3. You are overreacting.

VOTE: hiplop

Two to three votes on hiplop, so hiplop is overreacting to his distaste of those votes, and that makes him scummy, I think is what you two have going on here.

Can you elaborate on your scumread on hiplop? I understand getting riled up by BROseidon can be fun but please don't get distracted.

Well, the fact that he likes to call himself conf!town makes me think he's more VI than scum, but he could be faking it. I'll give you more information tomorrow, likely.

In post 3243, hiplop wrote:Literally conftown w. Nachi flip

Walk me through that.

hiplop stop being obnoxiously useless please

HEY CEPH (and i think spiffeh and maybe another person or two on the DS wagon)

It seems like to me the DS wagon has been their own little group of 5-7 people who want him dead with most of the rest of the game either thinking he's town for d1 stuff or just a town vi (correct me if I'm wrong on this though cuz I still haven't read like half the game yet)

I like the MoI wagon way, way more than any of the other wagons and there have been several other people i think that seemed interested in it too

Can you come over to the MoI wagon for now? I won't guarantee I'll stay on it but if MoI can't be done then after I can vote DS for a bit and see if it'll help the wagons stop stalling so hard at least.

Did you ever say why the Magna wagon is a good idea?

ya http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8291281

the "hasn't done anything that looks like a towntell" part is actually worse than the DS stuff I mentioned there in my mind at least. hiplop and DS and kdowns (and bro but he's got the whole thing with MJ that makes me not want to mess with him atm anyway) all have little things that I think are more likely to be coming from a town mindset than a scum one, even if it is possible for scum to fake them, and not seeing anything like that for MoI yet with his...density of his posts is pretty worrying.