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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:33 pm
by Isis
I liked your sig better when I thought it said flamethrower
also, how should my read progression be different? Should I be scumreading you?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:34 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I'm scared Isis
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:36 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 3225, Isis wrote:
I liked your sig better when I thought it said flamethrower
also, how should my read progression be different? Should I be scumreading you?
It really looks like you’re trying to build to a scumread on me.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:42 pm
by Isis
I think if I get scumpings about one of my townreads, being transparent about my thoughts gives the town the best chance to sort me accurately, it's one of the axes where I can do things that are harder for me to do as scum.
When Gloria asked me which person I "scumread" I specifically changed the wording to clarify it was a ping.
I guess technically it can be a scum indicative read progression to not be so neckdeep in confirmation bias that you just townread everything from a person since confbias is more likely for town, but that'd be specific cases and not the general case
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:44 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3220, Isis wrote:I'm pretty sure Dunnstral could predict that I don't lolhammer Gypyx during that phase of the game with a game-betting degree of confidence, but I'd agree that a green Flea has a very strong clearing effect for Infinity.
pedit: I feel pinged by Infinity, the line about Pooky wasn't AI, I still have you as town
Can you requote that line for me please?
Maybe you’re town? This game is hard. :/
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:45 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3221, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Gloria you don't have to convince me of what I already believe - I'm trying to convince Jessie or have Jessie convince me she is right about infinity because I don't get how he can be red given how the day played out.
Yeah exactly. You’re right. You think Isis could be pocketing me here?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:47 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3221, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Gloria you don't have to convince me of what I already believe - I'm trying to convince Jessie or have Jessie convince me she is right about infinity because
I don't get how he can be red given how the day played out
.
@Isis
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:49 pm
by Isis
Are you scum?
I keep having vacillating thoughts about this game and it's kind of disappointing.
I have this stupid thought that I want to townlock Ydrasse for her goodposting today because that would tie back to the post she made a long time ago back when scum had less control of the game that I really townread. There were 3 times as many scum then yet I felt surer about being able to pick out one person who must be scum.
I similarly want to townlock Flea's crazy d1-2 posting and just yeet the people with the scummiest opinions about the hammer and solve the game that way.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:50 pm
by Isis
In post 3217, Isis wrote:Pooky understands leashing and breaking strategies as well as I do. I don't really like the implication he doesn't. He just cares more about sidequests than I do, to put it one way.
This "line" is not AI for anyone, I was saying, @Gloria
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:52 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3120, Isis wrote: In post 3113, Gloria Cleary wrote: In post 3104, Isis wrote:
In post 3016, Infinity 324 wrote:Flea keeps feeling town, and it doesn’t help that isis’s “I think flea is town but it’d be irresponsible not to elim faer” is pretty scummy.
Why is it scummy? I'm agreeing with you that fae feels town. The only way I'm possibly disagreeing with you is about the propriety of leaving a gameflipping hammer unpunished, which is kind of an unexpected disagreement when you say you like wagonomics more than I do. I'm not even sure I disagree with you on that. Do you think you could get into an f3 and vote outside of Flea just because fae "feels" town?
Can you explain this further because I don’t understand and don’t want to misinterpret you?
When I play town I kind of do a mixture of 80% believing in myself and 20% accepting stuff that mathematically should work even though it doesn't speak to my soul. The 20% is composed of lots of things like deadsheeping people with a good read rate even though I don't like the read, voting softgulities, and voting out people that seem townie but have cast votes in scum favor.
I jump over to the 20% a lot more when I lose faith in myself, and the misreads presented by the five flips would be one of those times.
Maybe I should deadsheep Hopkirk though, that was in the list of things.
Maybe that makes you understand better where my mind's been.
Maybe Flea can be truly town locked, it's not impossible. I once town locked someone who faked an innocent on scum, from seeing enough of their soul.
I expected everyone to want to eliminate Flea like Pooky does and intending not to object because I don't feel confident enough to veto a VCA elim right now. If both my townreads don't want to do that, it's a pretty different story.
Why do I get this sinking feeling you know what Flea will flip because you trying to push Infinty is making me think you’re trying to link him to Flea?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:53 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
You should know I'm pretty far outside my scumrange.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:54 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3232, Isis wrote:
Are you scum?
I keep having vacillating thoughts about this game and it's kind of disappointing.
I have this stupid thought that I want to townlock Ydrasse for her goodposting today because that would tie back to the post she made a long time ago back when scum had less control of the game that I really townread. There were 3 times as many scum then yet I felt surer about being able to pick out one person who must be scum.
I similarly want to townlock Flea's crazy d1-2 posting and just yeet the people with the scummiest opinions about the hammer and solve the game that way.
Why are you scumreading Pooky for saying that? I don’t see what’s scummy about it. If he doesn’t townlock you, he’s possibly scumclaiming according to you?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:58 pm
by Isis
You feel outside your scumrange but there's not enough players in the game for everyone who has projected town to me to actually be town. :/
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:59 pm
by Isis
I don't scumread him for saying that. It's fun to ask people if they're scum because it doesn't actually matter if they say yes or no
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:00 pm
by Isis
Dunnstral are you scum?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:02 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3238, Isis wrote:I don't scumread him for saying that. It's fun to ask people if they're scum because it doesn't actually matter if they say yes or no
I think it matters
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:09 pm
by Gloria Cleary
Unless Pooky were to respond to that by just posting bear gifs like our favourite scum bat.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:11 pm
by Isis
Do you think people are more likely to answer honestly or more likely to answer backwards?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:11 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I don't want Isis to be scum but my head is saying she is and that's very depressing for me
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:12 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3242, Isis wrote:Do you think people are more likely to answer honestly or more likely to answer backwards?
I answer with my heart usually.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:14 pm
by Isis
I hope you have something more you've tried to read into besides my read of you, because if that marathon is going to extend into a meta of always scumreading me whenever I misread you, that's kind of boring/lame/unfun etc.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:16 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
it mostly has to do with your position on the hop wagon and never moving your vote or checking in.
For you to be town, it would require another deepwolf on the Gyp wagon and it's hard for me to see another one past ydrasse.
You also tried to defuse things with me/hop by saying the sweaty comment wasnt important.
It has almost nothing to do with your read on me.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:16 pm
by Gloria Cleary
Not a huge fan of how Isis is responding to Pooky.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:17 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
also in D1 Hop and you voted skitter and then dunn together - you also attacked skitter a few times, so it's weird to me why you would flip D2 to help skitter attack hop.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:18 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I agree on this point.
Some people use reads for reciprocity but I think it is not very important or good for meta. Feel free to be honest in your read of me, I will do my best to make it not affect my read of you.