when you don't have a scum category that's basically the same thing
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:55 pm
by Spiffeh
Annie Edison I believe LLD is claiming to have hid behind Manatee which clears her unless she and LLD are scum together.
It looks like CephTD was actually waffling on Titus until voting her:
In post 2350, Here There Be Dragons wrote:titus - whatever her gambit was makes no sense i probably would have fell in it too if i had got there first. some things make her seem town, some things make her seem scummy, we're kind of all over the place with this one. ceph note: my read here is entirely based on her claim post, which i liked, and luke's point about the apparent contradiction in her information, which i didn't like.
I find it unlikely Ceph would let claimed, provable PR Titus sit at L-1 for so long and just continue trolling until someone came along and hammered? Before she even got a chance to say anything? Especially if they were so torn on her alignment like the above quote implies. It feels a little unfair because I know Annie Edison and unwnd were also around but they seemed to be way more thoroughly and vocally convinced by Lukewarm's case than CephTD, and I have independent town reads on them where CephTD is/was a big ball of null.
So it wasn't really CephTD's vote that I hated it was more their behavior as Titus was mercilessly wagoned into oblivion!
BTW this post was in response to Annie's question to me many many posts ago
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:57 pm
by Annie Edison
Rhea checks demon/human I think not alignment? (Pls correct if wrong)
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:57 pm
by Here There Be Dragons
i have been putting my thoughts in the thread. everyone hates them (or "everyone else is better" which again, is still telling me i suck in different words) and no one has anything to say about any of it. like, no one will comment on our actual actions in this game at all.
pedit
spiffeh i dont think you read my posts. we were waffling because i hadn't read luke's case yet and we hadn't discussed it. then i did read it, and i didn't see how it was anything but a guarantee. yeah, it's a provable claim, but if we never elimed anyone with a provable claim, etc.
i did not perform a song and dance number about being convinced. i don't think performing in that manner would have been town indicative anyway?
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:58 pm
by Annie Edison
I should have unvoted.
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:58 pm
by Here There Be Dragons
like, do you think i'm not capable of performing being convinced? performance is the thing i'm best at?
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:59 pm
by Dunnstral
Hiders don't die when they hide behind scum.
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:59 pm
by Dunnstral
Variations
A Weak Hider is the original form of the Hider. This modified role is the most common version of this role (to the extent that many people will just say "Hider" to mean the role that has been standardised as "Weak Hider". A Weak role will die upon targeting a scum player, in addition to the other aspects of their role.
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:00 pm
by Annie Edison
Dude I could have sworn hiders die when they target scum
Don't stop at McDonald's for that iced coffee you like.
Don't bother with that shit cuz you give me an opening and I will murder you.
Don't stop until you see your lance plunge thru my evil heart and Bork locks this thread.
Pooky idk why you're acting like I can't simultaneously hold you as my strongest read and also explore the fact that I could be wrong by asking questions that can help be get to the bottom of you? In WH13 I reached out to scum!bork MANY MANY times and still had absolutely no problem poisoning him the first chance I got.
It feels like you're trying to bait me into a screaming match so you can hide behind our interactions and paint them as content you're providing. I'll pass!
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:04 pm
by Spiffeh
Ceph I think you said you had to go back and review Pooky but do you feel any type of way about the content he's provided this game Day?
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:05 pm
by Annie Edison
Ceph you guys are just one of the slots I struggle to remember what you have done all game. Like I know y’all were on Medea for a hot minute and had some good thoughts there but like… that’s all I really remember
and I feel like that’s unfair to you guys, but like, please. Prove me wrong.
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:07 pm
by Spiffeh
I understand Medea is a very popular scum read rn
I have been town reading like every single PA post and scum reading most Cabd posts, which is not helpful. But I actually finally saw flashes of town!Cabd the ~night of the hammer~. I'm curious as to how Annie Edison and Snarky Fishes are reading Medea at this point?
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:08 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 3242, Spiffeh wrote:I understand Medea is a very popular scum read rn
What if I told you I claimed my role so they don't get miseliminated today and did not in fact claim for no reason
I think you should absorb what I claimed if you haven't yet
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:11 pm
by Spiffeh
I have absorbed your claim and it does not prevent me from continuing to evaluate their slot and ask questions about them, thank you for your concern.
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:16 pm
by Annie Edison
I’m still stuck on my Medea/Pooky seesaw, Spiffy.
Their Titus trajectory was all over the place but as you guys have shown so was the bears. But like even though the bears trajectory was arguably worse he was actually on the wagon? That felt kinda weird from Medea.
As I was saying yesterday medea was hitting a lot of tonal stuff later on that made me think of nacho in mylo like I said, essentially put on the back foot and ran up to an excessively paranoid town (including yours truly) and the parallels between them have been spinning in my head. But I think a bug difference between here and there is I had concrete scumreads there. Here I just seem more generally lost.
But then I suppose there is the obvious question of “would scum be able to claim demon outright like they did and not get CCd” and that’s a weird though too.
If you put a gun to my head I’m going to say town but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t still have reservations
I did not realize this, so Manatee is not confirmed Town.
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:19 pm
by Spiffeh
Notty does Dunn's claim that they're not lying about their role ease your suspicions at all?
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:22 pm
by ManateeGal
hi nerds
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:22 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 3245, Annie Edison wrote:But then I suppose there is the obvious question of “would scum be able to claim demon outright like they did and not get CCd” and that’s a weird though too.
It seems almost certain that there were 2 demons on day 1, because nobody is claiming demon today, and there are at least 3 today.
I don't think it is likely that mafia had the capability to turn 2 of themselves into demons without town help on night 1