↑UberNinja wrote:If Quilford flips scum, kanye is his buddy.
kanye is probscum regardless of Quilford's alignment.
Not feeling like taking the Quilbait atm.
You know you want to. 1 & done it.
I kind of want to, but at the same time, I kind of don't. I'm starting to be a little more willing to compromise on Paramathrd because that wagon's kind of not happening, but I'm not up to making that compromise wagon Qwilfish.
Incidentally, Quilford replaced out of Neruzian Era under sketchy conditions as well, and was Town in that game.
Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.
↑Chiarosicada wrote:
As for being wishy-washy, I've gotten that both as town and as scum but I don't agree with the accusation. Mafia's a nuanced game and town lacks information. I think it's worse to have certainty of players' alignments on page 3, which some people in this game have claimed to have.
IMO, The few posts where Chiaro has allegedly contributed take stances only after other players have stated an intents. Chiaro's general tone and opinions land in a safe zone. Being wishy washy is a good way of sensing momentum to hop into a wagon. Chiaro doesn't strike me as truly engaged on the scumhunt at this point.
I also think this post is a good reason to keep voting Chiaro from his own words:
↑Chiarosicada wrote:
My philosophy as town is generally to be transparent with my thoughts, even if others might call it sheeping. The theory is that my towniness will show through eventually to other town who think similarly... but I guess that's not true, and I suppose can understand why. And everyone should be afraid of being lynched, town included. We only know our own alignment and you're helping town by not getting lynched.
In other news, I need to do more than defend myself and give the game a re-read.
I don't see any scum-hunting intent, only an interest in giving the impression of looking town. Furthermore, it sounds as another bid for more time. Somehow, I don't bode well with players that keep saying they will come back without delivering. It's a good strategy for scum to look like they are trying to make an effort to help, and I suspect this is one of those cases.
Zorblag - For now Troll will go have some rum and see if that inspires any wonderful solutions. Troll no be hopeful but at least Troll will get to have some rum.
Furcolow wrote:shos's interaction to his wagon is scummy
why wouldn't he have addressed this in #224, nothing has changed since then
he's scum skimming, and milking the votecount
What was scummy there? Iirc I just asked wtf.
Uber and parama have already supplied their reasons for votirng me-parama thinks the whole saga was already out of RVS and uber either misread or misrepped me. But you and diddin im still waiting to hear from. Diddin just seems to be lurking behind his rvs vote and you-well answer the question above
Shitty Iphone posticng
Anybody else think he was [trying to garner sympathy, making excuses, etc] by insinuating he's on a mobile phone?
Anybody else think the "posticng" at the end seems just a little ... oh... FAKE? This is why I'm voting shos. This right here.
I have been on a completely spontaneous trip with a few of my friends, this is why I did not post this Fri-Sat. I haven't posted here and in the other game I played, and got mislynched there while I was gone so yes that post was from my GF's iPhone; I don't have one so it isn't quite obvious to me~
Furcolow wrote:shos's interaction to his wagon is scummy
why wouldn't he have addressed this in #224, nothing has changed since then
he's scum skimming, and milking the votecount
What was scummy there? Iirc I just asked wtf.
Uber and parama have already supplied their reasons for votirng me-parama thinks the whole saga was already out of RVS and uber either misread or misrepped me. But you and diddin im still waiting to hear from. Diddin just seems to be lurking behind his rvs vote and you-well answer the question above
Shitty Iphone posticng
the scumminess lies in the lack of you posting your wagon whining in 224
why did you wait to make this post:
You are clearly not following the game, and reading at a skim. You didn't even realize you had 4 votes until the mod edited it! This is the 2nd time you've been woe is me, and you've already flailed at me once.
what is your opinion on yosarian? you've tunneled a lot on shos, but I don't see much productivity otherwise from your slot
+1
↑Parama wrote:Let me paraphrase Chiaro for a second.
"I think Parama's scum claim is scummy. I didn't want to push it though because I have no real case... but since Vi is pushing it, it's okay to push now. This one thing makes Parama scummier than Uber, who I didn't have any reasoning on in the first place. In fact, I have yet to do any scumhunting. But Parama is scum."
I mean... the entirety of his play is based on sheeping others, and acting like he had actual reasoning to back it up. He's sitting around waiting for others to post cases on other players.
Le quotes of relevance:
↑Chiarosicada wrote:However, you were also the first to draw attention to Parama, who I'm also finding scummy for claiming scum. Frankly, I wasn't comfortable calling him out on it due to knowledge of his meta but Vi's vote gives me more confidence.
UberNinja wrote:Why vote me without reasoning, and then say someone else is going to give you headaches?
I voted you because I thought you were scummy.
...
As for why I didn’t state my reasons for voting you, I wanted to see who was thinking along the same lines as me so that I could identify them as more likely town, which I now see shos as.
↑Chiarosicada wrote:I'm just being honest. I was scared to call Parama scummy for something I wouldn't hesitate to vote most other players for, a scum claim, because I know his meta. When an older player called him scummy anyway, I felt encouraged to do so.
I find the third one to be the most incriminating... "I was scared to call Parama scummy" even though it's town's job to scumhunt and call others scum. It also implies a fear of being lynched. Who else is afraid of being lynched? Hmm...
On a side note, Vi is 100% golden-plated confirmed town once Chiaro flips scum.
I have to say that I am on chiaro's side here; in the game I just got lynched in(as VT), I also did sort of the same thing - I did not vote for someone and instead I *said* that we should lynch him. this was at L-3; then someone voted him, and after a while(time-wise, there were almost no posts inbetween) I voted too, thinking that well, town should be taking this lynch now. for some reason (as you said above) people there thought this was going for a quickhammer or something.
So my point is that it is a definitely legit possibility that someone wants to see that others share his thoughts before he takes action or something.
↑UberNinja wrote:I admit I almost voted for him last page based on most of that.
But I still think shos should go first.
You have not responded to my response to your reasoning against me; basically, it's like you want to lynch me without reason; please see my last few posts and respond.
This post is for posts of a page before, another will be posted on last page soon
you two gotta be scumpartners, these three posts are bleeding scum to me; literally nothing changed about my situation while I was gone, this push on me is wrong and caseless. No wonder parama is catching fire with this gameplay.
unvote; vote Parama
↑Furcolow wrote:im fine with quilford
his spazzing and flailing is near shos level
i support either of the two wagons
Vi pushing against shos has me thinking he might be town if she is mafia
spazzing and flailing? come on, if you want to vote quil you need to give me a real reason, not fluff like you do. same goes for voting me of course - I don't recall you answering my last post aimed at you.
↑Furcolow wrote:shos has been way more active and can be held accountable
i'll give Vi the benefit of the doubt
what does this post mean?
↑kanyeknowsbest wrote:i still support my quilford vote. going to reread cus most of my other reads are nonexistent at this point.
↑Nuwen wrote:"Scum caught for the wrong reasons."
Don't even bother finding a replacement, just kill it. It OMGUS'd pretty much anything on it in a fit of flaility flail ffs.
Are you asking for a modkill? firstly I don't understand why; secondly, what happens if a modkill happens? *is noob*
Alright, Chiaro is scum. That makes Parama probably town. Quilford's replacing out is certainly questionable, but I've seen more town do it lately than scum.
298 sums it up pretty well.
Chiaro wrote:However, you were also the first to draw attention to Parama, who I'm also finding scummy for claiming scum. Frankly, I wasn't comfortable calling him out on it due to knowledge of his meta but Vi's vote gives me more confidence. I'm not sure what to make of your interactions with him.
He's also been suspicious of Parama for claiming scum, even though he knows Parama would do it as town, but he doesn't say anything about it for a very long time. Then he blames Vi for his suspicion, saying 'well hey, Vi thinks it's scummy, so it must be'.
His change to Parama is scummy. Comes right after getting called out. His reason for voting Parama is terrible.
i dislike the way uberninja is trying to get the wagon off of shos, but is setting up for an easy excuse to jump on with his "he's probably scum but I don't want to lynch him yet"
This, basically. I was holding off on my reasoning but meh.
chiaro and i saw eye to eye on this
he is quoting me here
furthermore, he flip flops on parama. well, it's not a flip flop, but i have a town read on him because of how he went from being scared to vote parama, to manning up and doing so. scum will generally be hesitant to contradict theirselves, so i don't think he is scum.
I am not saying he is "too scummy to be scum", that would be Parama this game.
so yes that post was from my GF's iPhone; I don't have one so it isn't quite obvious to me~
