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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:22 pm
by Blastoide
Ok. I'll be back tomorrow with my reads. I started earlier but I got distracted easily. Expect them kinda late too, because I have to go to a party. Sorry for the inconvenience if there is any.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:05 pm
by Om of the Nom
Blastoide (1): UberNinja
Roflcopter (2): Blastoide, Malakittens
Greywing (5): Shiidaji, BK201, drmyshotgun, roflcopter, Chrimi
Malakittens (1): Loranthaceae
Chrimi (3): Arugula, Jal, Greywing

With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Deadline is on the 29th of July.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:10 pm
by Jal
Chrimi wrote:Read my last post, please.


So either you're scum trying suck up to Uber or you're the most stupidly naive person in the thread. :roll:

Chrimi wrote:
Also, what do you think more believable? You think I'm going to believe you're that stupid?

More believable- the thing we were DISCUSSING-

I moved my vote to BK because if I just unvoted, it wouldn't have been as believable. The fact that you take that as scummy is just sad, Jal. I moved my vote because I wanted to see what Greywing would do when I moved it, the fact that you took that as scummy is one of either two things.

1. You're scum trying to pin stuff on the newest wagon to get a mislynch.
2. You're scum trying to pin stuff on the newest wagon to get people off of the old wagon.
3. You're fucking stupid.


Here's a challenge: Quote anywhere in my post where I called you scummy for changing your vote. Do it.

Since I know you can't be bothered to read and comprehend shit, I'll answer for you: I didn't. I asked you a question to clarify and holy crap are you ever flailing all over the place in this post. Bravo self. If you had actually read any of my posts or things I said even within my last post leading up to my vote on you, you'd have a little inkling of why exactly I'm voting your scummy ass. But hey, don't let me stop you from spazzing out and furiously pounding out further of those little shit ass posts of yours.

Next, let's take a gander of that list of yours which consists of more than two things.

1. Yes. I avoided hopping onto all the other new bandwagons springing up since my initial vote on LH just waiting to get onto yours. What can I say? You're a large threat and I wanted to get rid of you ASAP!!!! :oops:
2. I was the last vote on LH.
3. Oh yes, I must be fucking stupid!!!!

You keep saying you're being aggressive. You aren't. You're just annoying. Right now, all I see is some limp-dick kid who tried carving out his name in the snow, and instead just ended up pissing all over himself.

:IGMEOU: Keeping my vote on Greywing, for now.


As a wise poet once said,

"Here's me not giving a fuck."


~ Unknown

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:17 pm
by Jal
Forgot one thing:

Chrimi
: What reaction were you looking for from Greywing, and how did he further implicate himself as scum? No one try answering this question for him, please.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:59 pm
by Chrimi
Jal wrote:
Chrimi wrote:He hasn't done anything to make me believe he's scum, so for the time being I believe he's town. After all, it's much more likely given the town to scum ratio.


Oh times have certainly changed, haven't they? But then Uber replaces in and you're all over trying to suck up to him. Makes the mind wonder.

Chrimi wrote:And it's a lot more believable if I switch my vote to someone else, is it not?


To make what more believable, exactly?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Chrimi

You ask the question right before voting me, I was assuming that was your reason?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:02 pm
by Chrimi
Jal wrote:You keep saying you're being aggressive. You aren't. You're just annoying. Right now, all I see is some limp-dick kid who tried carving out his name in the snow, and instead just ended up pissing all over himself.

What are you getting your panties in a bunch for? I said I was attempting to be more aggressive, not that it was actually
working
.

Obviously you're pissed about something though. Perhaps that means I should pursue this more?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:03 pm
by Chrimi
Jal wrote:As a wise poet once said,

"Here's me
not
giving a fuck."


~ Unknown

Fixed.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:07 pm
by Chrimi
And that list was possibilities. The third one was implying that you are town.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:44 pm
by Jal
Chrimi wrote:You ask the question right before voting me, I was assuming that was your reason?


I asked you a question which obviously didn't implicate or imply anything. I certainly never called your change in votes scummy, did I?
You
were the one who made that part up. You're quite defensive over that vote change, aren't you?

Aside from your regular fluff posting, feel free to answer my latest question any time :D

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:31 am
by Chrimi
Hmm, seem to be having posting problems. I've answered your questions at least 3 times now, but it won't let me post... Let's hope it works this time.

I wasn't expecting anything in particular, I just felt like if I did it then I'd get
something
out of him, and got a lot more than what I expected.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:33 am
by Chrimi
Jal wrote:
Chrimi wrote:Read my last post, please.


So either you're scum trying suck up to Uber or you're the most stupidly naive person in the thread. :roll:

Chrimi wrote:
Also, what do you think more believable? You think I'm going to believe you're that stupid?

More believable- the thing we were DISCUSSING-

I moved my vote to BK because if I just unvoted, it wouldn't have been as believable. The fact that you take that as scummy is just sad, Jal. I moved my vote because I wanted to see what Greywing would do when I moved it, the fact that you took that as scummy is one of either two things.

1. You're scum trying to pin stuff on the newest wagon to get a mislynch.
2. You're scum trying to pin stuff on the newest wagon to get people off of the old wagon.
3. You're fucking stupid.


Here's a challenge: Quote anywhere in my post where I called you scummy for changing your vote. Do it.

Since I know you can't be bothered to read and comprehend shit, I'll answer for you: I didn't. I asked you a question to clarify and holy crap are you ever flailing all over the place in this post. Bravo self. If you had actually read any of my posts or things I said even within my last post leading up to my vote on you, you'd have a little inkling of why exactly I'm voting your scummy ass. But hey, don't let me stop you from spazzing out and furiously pounding out further of those little shit ass posts of yours.

Next, let's take a gander of that list of yours which consists of more than two things.

1. Yes. I avoided hopping onto all the other new bandwagons springing up since my initial vote on LH just waiting to get onto yours. What can I say? You're a large threat and I wanted to get rid of you ASAP!!!! :oops:
2. I was the last vote on LH.
3. Oh yes, I must be fucking stupid!!!!

You keep saying you're being aggressive. You aren't. You're just annoying. Right now, all I see is some limp-dick kid who tried carving out his name in the snow, and instead just ended up pissing all over himself.

:IGMEOU: Keeping my vote on Greywing, for now.


As a wise poet once said,

"Here's me not giving a fuck."


~ Unknown

But anyways, this post screams of rage and hate for no apparent reason. Don't get overly defensive before I even start voting you, it's not going to help. This reaction to something as simple as calling you stupid either shows you have a very short fuse and are, actually, rather stupid, or you are being overly defensive for another reason. Perhaps that other reason is that you're scum? I do not know, perhaps I should look into a scum meta of you.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:36 am
by Chrimi
Also, quoting me rather contradicts your post.

"Swearing and accusing and having panties in a bunch.

Says I'm not giving a fuck."

See what I mean?

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:44 am
by Chrimi
Jal wrote:So either you're scum trying suck up to Uber or you're the most stupidly naive person in the thread. :roll:

Calls me stupidly naive.

Continues to shout as many insults as they can muster.

Obviously not giving a fuck.

The fact that any of those three can even be considered to work together is just odd.

VOTE: Jal

In the game I modded you didn't seem like a mean person, but maybe you are only an asshole when you're town?

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:46 am
by Arugula
^^^Possibly the worst vote. Ever.

You are voting her for being aggresssive? You've been trying to be aggressive this whole game. Why is she scummy for it and not you?

And then you use meta TO HER ADVANTAGE by saying she was nice in the game you modded, (she was scum), and she might just be an asshole as town. So then why is your vote on her???

Not to mention the insane amount of OMGUS in there.

As a side note, I've never seen Jal this aggressive, but the whole pee in the snow bit made me chuckle.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:02 am
by Chrimi
It was amusing, but I've never seen them act like this. So unless I hit a spot she's trying desperately to defend, then IDK.

Or aunt erma is visiting.

Anyways, I'm voting her for being aggressive out of no where and for no obvious reason. I said I'm trying to be more aggressive, because if I wasn't then I would be posting about as much as BK or UberNinja.

And I was just stating the facts, as scum she doesn't get that aggressive, and as town she doesn't get that aggressive. Unless being called stupid over the internet gets on her nerves (which is stupid), then I don't know what to think.

If she said "I'm trying to be aggressive for a change" as I did when asked, then it wouldn't be scummy. But she has no reason to be butthurt and yet she is, which is why I decided to add on to the pressure.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:08 am
by Loranthaceae

Unless being called stupid over the internet gets on her nerves (which is stupid), then I don't know what to think.


In a mafia game you invest a lot of attention and even intelligence. If someone calls even just the way you play stupid it's more personal than most of the insults that RL people throw at you and makes your effort seem like wasted energy. Just saying we should keep this civilized and respect intellectual investment so we can continue giving a shit about this game and not slack off due to poor dividend output.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:37 am
by Jal
Chrimi
:

Chrimi wrote:I wasn't expecting anything in particular, I just felt like if I did it then I'd get something out of him, and got a lot more than what I expected.


You forgot the last part of my question - how did it further implicate Greywing as scum?

Chrimi, if you're just going to go around swearing and calling people stupid and then can't handle it when they dish it back at you, maybe it's time you rethink your strategy. Look at how many posts you've invested afterwards, even when I was clearly civil, by you being overly defensive that I insulted you, trying to complain that I insulted you, and further trying to hand-wave everything I said away by insulting me. You even ended up getting yourself riled up enough just to vote me for it.

The results you get from it? Nothing. I
so
wish I could further call you scummy for your eventual vote on me which was made with very little reasoning. However, your change in vote is effectively worthless due to your emotions, making it a null tell. It just ends up going nowhere, no?

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:02 am
by Loranthaceae
VOTE: Chrimi

Looks like the only opportunity to get someone on my scumlist lynched.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:07 am
by Blastoide
Ok. Keep in mind that I am probably the worst scumhunter you will ever see. EVER. This is my first time doing this wall and will definitely be my last. I just basically summed up every post before this comment and I am going to say what I think of any post that stands out to me.
Legend:
(S) = Scummy
(T) = Townie
And I am pretty sure that is it. If I mess up your gender, then I am sorry. Just tell me and I will remember that for the future. I will be doing 3 at a time. Here are my reads on people!

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:22 am
by Blastoide
I forgot to mention in my previous post, Chankla means a cuss word, since I don't cuss. This is important for some of my little comments I put.

Scigatt-Uber

(Post 5)-Random Vote
(Post 8)-Confusion
(Post 13)-Questions LH about meta.
(Post 38)-Asks Greywing for clarification. Says LH's reactions are justified.
(Post 44)-Asks Arugula what he thinks of the null tells.
(Post 75)-Does not like Chrimi's vote. Votes Chrimi. Says rage is over the top. Doesn't understand the hate against me.
(Post 92)-Says to Chrimi that it is bull because he is applying meta to a new player. Says to evaluate a post without reasoning is bad scumhunting.
(Post 97)-Tells Chrimi don't complain if he is wrong.
(Post 111)-Unvotes
(Post 113)-Says ignorance is easy to fake, and if he finds Chrimi scummy again he will vote.
(Post 115)-Says it is not strange he knew there were 3 scum. Doesn't understand the Blastoide wagon and Shii is giving him a bad feeling. Votes Shii.
(Post 119)-Says that his vote on Shii was a gut vote. If Shii can recap all his suspicions, he may reconsider.
(Post 128)-Tells me to vote for someone I would like to hear more from.
(Post 130)-Asks Shii what else she found suspicious about me.
(Post 132)-Says all I wanted was a link to the meta.
(Post 136)-Vote me because of my 127 and what Shii said.
(Post 174)-Asks Shotgun if he knows something about Chrimi.
(Post 187)-Tells Mala that Jal doesn't deserve FOS.
Scigatt requested replacement. Uber replaces Scigatt.
(Post 226)-Tells people not to lynch yet. Wait until he catches up.
(Post 235)-Tells Copter to stick around.
(Post 238)-Explains LH's James Bond's line.
(Post 244)-Says BK is starting to sound like him.
(Post 267)-Says that something else caught his attention.
(Post 273)-Said that he wasn't going to get lynched in the game Chrimi modded.
(Post 294)-Admits he has been in good games and bad games. Says the weekend is almost here so we should expect more. Copter is over reacting.

Here, there are no individual posts that really stand out to me. I did however think that Scigatt was town before he left, but Uber isn't doing a great job keeping that. I hear from Chrimi that he is supposedly an AMAZING scum hunter, however, it doesn't look like it so far. This makes me think that he feels like he doesn't have to do anything because he may be scum. However, before I come to that conclusion I'll wait for him to post a little bit more. For now, I'd say this is a town slot.

Hyper-Shotgun

(Post 51)-Random Vote. Says my post was wishy washy.
(Post 52)-Comments on how his quote tags were bad.
(Post 53)-Answers Mala's question by saying I was horrible and wishy washy.
(Post 55)-Says Mala is trying to defend me. Says Mala and Blastoide team. Votes Mala.
(Post 121)-Requests Replacement.
Shotgun replaces in.
(Post 167)-Unvotes. Introduces himself.
(Post 170)-Says Chrimi is town.
(Post 171)-Was going to sheep Chrimi, but instead keeps on reading.
(Post 180)-He does know something about Chrimi.
(Post 181)-Also agrees that he gets people mixed up.
(Post 205)-Chrimi is town when active.
(Post 208)-Votes LH because of post 175.
(Post 210)-Questions LH about post 178.
(Post 217)-Brings up that he and Chrimi always buddy up.
(Post 219)-Says Chrimi wants him to do work.
(Post 245)-Also explains the James Bond quote.
(Post 247)-Says that Jal's post 234 is correct.
(Post 248)-Willing to vote Copter because he replaced out because of Uber.
(Post 255)-Says gut is wonderful. Referencing my fence sitting. Says the suspects are: Copter, Greywing, LH, and Blastoide.
(Post 275)-Votes Greywing.
(Post 283)-Explains who Kassadin is. Wonders why he didn't realize Greywing's pattern earlier.
(Post 312)-Laughs at Greywing's most recent vote.
(Post 319)-Says that Chrimi is town again.
(Post 323)-Says he doesn't see anything different from Chrimi.

In the beginning, I thought that Hyperion was leaning scum because of his vote on Mala. However, once he left and Shotgun replaced in, my view on this slot changed. Shotgun hasn't done one scummy thing since he has been here. He has been scum hunting to, which leads me to believe that he is town.

Arugula

(Post 37)-Votes LH. Says claim is null, but getting defensive and OMGUS is scummy.
(Post 43)-Says that LH's reasons for him are flawed.
(Post 46)-Disagrees with the town/null tells on LH.
(Post 62)-Tells me LH is scum.
(Post 65)-Says it's not newbscum behavior. Says his OMGUS and non-rational votes are scummy.
(Post 69)-Laughs at how I put my comments the color red.
(Post 72)-Says red is associated with scum.
(Post 74)-Agrees he has an odd sense of humor.
(Post 78)-OMGUS
(Post 120)-Says LH's post sucks because it was based off speculation and that he is probably wrong. He also comments on how he didn't answer his previous question.
(Post 124)-Says AGAIN the reason why he is voting LH is because of the over defensiveness and the OMGUS vote.
(Post 198)-Tells LH his reasons for voting for him are flawed. Asks why everyone thinks LH is town. Says Chrimi's town tells seem fake and are too frequent. FOS Chrimi.
(Post 202)-Asks how is Chrimi giving a chankla supposed to help. Asks Copters explanation on LH.
(Post 212)-The reason why he is voting LH is because LH admitted to being defensive and his OMGUS.
(Post 237)-Says I am null at the moment.
(Post 257)-Has a summary of Greywing. Votes Greywing. Still says LH is scummy.
(Post 293)-Questions Chrimi's logic. Chrimi thought Scigatt was scummy, but then says Uber is town. Votes Chrimi.
(Post 297)-He says he's fine with a Greywing lynch, but thinks Chrimi is scummier.
(Post 299)-Doesn't like how Copter is lining up lynches.
(Post 301)-Says he is more confident in a Chrimi vote.
(Post 303)-Tells LH that he still hasn't explained why he thinks that he is scum. Wonders why Greywing isn't on LH's list. Scum order: Chrimi-Greywing-LH.
(Post 305)-Said LH's post 302 implies Greywing is scummy.
(Post 314)-Says you can't ignore the predecessors.
(Post 320)-Says Uber should be null-scum according to Chrimi. Countered Shotgun.
(Post 338)-Never seen Jal like this. Says Chrimi's vote sucks because he called him town.

I don't know what to think of Arugula. He had major tunnel vision in the beginning. Throughout almost the entire game so far he and LH have been going back and forth. Only recently has he been looking at other people. I personally think he is null at the moment. Null-leaning a little scum because of how hard he pushed on LH.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:33 am
by Shiidaji
Quick skim, why go through all the effort with the "Post X"? It's just a bunch of IoA/summarization. You'd be better off just posting the small blurb for each person, it fills up the page meaninglessly.

You've never mentioned the Scigatt/Uber slot before this though which interests me, what gave you a Sci townread?

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:44 am
by Blastoide
Shiidaji wrote:Quick skim, why go through all the effort with the "Post X"? It's just a bunch of IoA/summarization. You'd be better off just posting the small blurb for each person, it fills up the page meaninglessly.

You've never mentioned the Scigatt/Uber slot before this though which interests me, what gave you a Sci townread?

:igmeou: ..... :cry: So much work.. Wasted.. Ok. I'll do what you said. I was mainly doing it for me, because I don't like going back, but you are right about it just filling up space. I found Scigatt town because of how he didn't just jump on the popular wagons. He voted for who he thought was scum, which I like. He was going against the crowd. He didn't just follow other everyone else, like most people usually do.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:19 pm
by Blastoide
Mala

Mala's post seem genuine to me. All nice, and it really looks like she is scum hunting. She asks good questions, and she pushes when she knows something is up. I like how she also doesn't just jump on the popular wagons and goes who she really thinks is scum. So I think she is town.

Copter

Copter puts a bad taste in my mouth. I definitely don't like his play style. That's for sure. Where if he feels like he doesn't have to answer a question because he doesn't want to he doesn't. He also doesn't really ask other people questions and he doesn't scum hunt. He is just there trying to decide. I think he is scum because of this. Either that, or very anti-town.

Chrimi

In the beginning I thought Chrimi was town because of his reactions. I think that a scum wouldn't get that crazy because it causes everyone to focus on them. Then the game kept on going and my opinion hasn't really changed, but I do not like is OMGUS vote against Jal. I think that he is null-leaning town, but whether he is town or scum, he shouldn't call people stupid. I don't like when people insult others, but that's just me.

Shii

I'd say town because of his scum hunting. Every one of his posts has something to do with trying to figure out who is scum or not. He is very serious in this game. Are you usually this serious, Shii?

BK

I don't know about BK. He barely says anything. There are only like 5 posts of in game content. All the rest are advice posts and posts about previous games, which is null. I'd say it is null leaning scum.

Greywing

As he stated previously, we played with each other once before and to tell you the truth, he is playing almost exactly the same. And can you guess what he was in that game? Based on this game, it looks like he is a major opportunist. Once he sees a mistake someone did, he jumps on them so fast. And then when other people say, "Are you serious?" He goes, "Just kidding! I think this person looks more suspicious." Therefore, I think he may be scum.

Blastoide

Dang. What can I say? Definitely one of the sexiest people here, if not THE sexiest. MMM!

LH

I don't really know him yet. (Yes, I said this plenty of time before.)His posts don't really scream scum, but they aren't town either. Based of that I'd say he is null, but my gut says he is town.

Jal

I think Jal is one of the hardest people to read here. I don't know why, but Jal is. Of one, I don't know if Jal is a boy or girl, so I would refer to him/her as Jal. Jal looks like Jal is really trying to scum hunt, and now that Jal has found Jal's target, Jal will push on him(Chrimi) as hard as Jal can. However, based on other people's comments, they've never seen Jal like this. Based on how hard Jal is pushing, I think that Jal is town. Jal is a good scum hunter, and now that Jal found a scum(hopefully), Jal will get rid of him. That's how I see it.

Now some of you may think that I still have a fence in between my butt cheeks, but this is how I see it. I am not good at causing pressure on others so I wait until I see a case and then I vote for them. If there are questions left unanswered just ask me and I will try to answer as best as I can. :D

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:43 pm
by Jal
LH, what do you make of Greywing jumping onto the Chrimi bandwagon?

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:33 pm
by Greywing
Jal's Town.

Blastoide wrote:
Greywing

As he stated previously, we played with each other once before and to tell you the truth, he is playing almost exactly the same. And can you guess what he was in that game? Based on this game, it looks like he is a major opportunist. Once he sees a mistake someone did, he jumps on them so fast.
And then when other people say, "Are you serious?" He goes, "Just kidding! I think this person looks more suspicious."
Therefore, I think he may be scum.


Lolwut?

So, I'm guessing you're referring to my vote on Gunny, seeing as you posted that almost word for word from another person describing that vote. As stated, that vote was meant as a reaction test on both Gunny and Chrimi in order to confirm that the buddying going on was a regular occurence for them, and not alignment-based.

Now, how else was I supposed to confirm that unless my vote was intentionally vague?

VOTE: Random Player
Reason: Reaction testing!

Doesn't work.

Also, since your case on me is "He's scum because he's playing the same as his previous scum game," show me examples of similarities between this game and Newbie 1247. Otherwise, I think you're just making things up.

@MOD: I'm going to be V/LA starting Monday, July 23rd until Saturday, July 28th. I might still be able to post, but just want to make sure in the off-chance I can't.