Open 428 - Double Day Unlimited

[Whiskers]

Lurking on Day 2, obviously.

Cry, what

are

your reads? PM may be a newbie, but in a scumgame of his, he did similar flailing and similar stupid n00b posts. I don't think his awful play is indicative of alignment or, if it is, it is indicative of him being scum (but based on only one example).

[preedit]
Oh wait, he means he doesn't like voting for lurkers on Day 1-- and it is still technically day 1.
Is that why you've been Lurking, Venrob? What are your reads?

[absta101]

In Venrob's defence he's been V/LA.

[Venrob]

Absta, GUT scumtells. My gut has been right about 75% of the time, it says shadow is scum. On EM, if im maf i usually kill the cop n1


Anyways DATT SHADOW just is upsetting my gut, which i can feel. Either hes scum or idiot lurker.

[absta101]

gut isn't a scum tell.

[Venrob]

My gut says scum

Hes also lurking.

And i am tired as shit right now.

[Whiskers]

Absta, GUT scumtells. My gut has been right about 75% of the time, it says shadow is scum. On EM, if im maf i usually kill the cop n1

This is not epicmafia. I too kill cops night 1 and docs night 2, on "gut" reads, or on little tells that catch my eye.

However, this is not a chat-game. Players have the time to look over what they're saying, what other people are saying. Mafia doesn't kill at random, and roles and setups are balanced.
Rather than taking this whole thing with that PoV, allow me to start you off re-reading the game (you maybe can skip over the Lora bullshit) with a mindset of, "Would scum be more likely to say or do this, or would town?"

In fact, if you want, take one (living) player's posts in isolation, and rate how scummy or townie you think they are.

[Voidedmafia]

So, Ven, you tired NOW?

Cry, yes you are avoiding this game. Same with GNR (which is also partially why I don't like playing with you).

Whiky, please c'mere so I can buddy more.

[Whiskers]

I was hoping to come in at exactly 36 hrs (or however many it is) and ask for a mass prod of everypony but me...

GNR doesn't seem to show up often anywhere else either, but that's looking at the game he's modding, not at his actual, overall, site activity. Cry certainly seems to be avoiding the game. Venrob too.
If any of them have been posting regularly, then we'll policy lynch them as lurkers. Ven, Cry, Riggs, absta, Irish. All of them.

I

do

wish we had a deadline though. Not having one, but having sketchy-at-best players, really encourages this game to fizzle out.

[Whiskers]

In all seriousness, I've been playing on EpicMafia because this game is

not moving.

By the way, the competitive lobby there is a joke. It's currently full of trolls and the only place to go for a serious game is the Training Lobby. Oh, how the tables have turned!

[absta101]

I'm here. Nothing to talk about with only us three posting.

[Whiskers]

You voted me to help apply pressure.

If you keep your vote I deserve an explanation.

Just as much as I deserve an explanation as to why you seemingly intentionally ignored when I answered your query for so long?

There's that, then there's your shady dealings around Loran, and then in some respects there's how you've dealt with Whisky. Oh, and then you've tried to say that "scum can't be among us three" when actually they can (also, if this ends up being the reverse of DV Mafia, Whisky, we are not hydraing ).

There's this. Also, you could try to convince someone to vote TheShadow beyond, "he lurked."
Or, you could make any case. Or you could try to come up with a few good scumteams.
Fuck, I'll do that last one right now.

Also, I believe I asked you why you were encouraging CryMeARiver to "vote PM with a reason". So, let me ask again, Why were you doing that? Or did I misunderstand?

[Whiskers]

So!
These ponies are alive:
Guy_Named_Riggs - lurker/afk pony
PMysterious - lurker/VI pony
Absta101 - avoids questions pony
TheShadow - lurker-but-promises-more (but-it-never-comes) pony
Venrob - lurker/Noobpony
VoidedMafia - talkative sheep
Whiskers - talkative Cat
CryMeARiver - lurker/ do-a-two-page-catch-up-and-then-abandon-the-game pony.

Is this correct? So, the

possible

scumteams are:
GNR/PM, GNR/absta, GNR/TShadow, GNR/Venrob, GNR/VoidedMafia, GNR/Whiskers, GNR/Cry
FUCK IT NEVERMIND. This is apparently way too early. Even as I type these combinations, I realize there's

nothinkg

in this game that could help me pick out more-likely teams.
We have NO activity. If it doesn't pick up soon, I will quit this game and play in another one.

[PMysterious]

Oh, sorry for lurking. I'll try to make it up later.

[absta101]

@Voided

Just as much as I deserve an explanation as to why you seemingly intentionally ignored when I answered your query for so long?

See Post #268

There's that, then there's your shady dealings around Loran

elaborate.

and then in some respects there's how you've dealt with Whisky.

elaborate.

Oh, and then you've tried to say that "scum can't be among us three" when actually they can

I don't remember saying that. Quote me please.

[Whiskers]

@Voided

Just as much as I deserve an explanation as to why you seemingly intentionally ignored when I answered your query for so long?

See Post #268

What's he supposed to see here? Voided isn't completely clear here, but you, absta, seem to have a real problem with actually giving information. Wasn't it you who said you weren't going to repeat yourself? Why? Why prolong an argument?
So, this is me buddying Voided again. I'm really gonna be smacking my forehead when he's scum.

Can you simply, plainly, in one sentence say why you ignored his answer once he gave it? Or show or explain that you didn't ignore it?

There's that, then there's your shady dealings around Loran

elaborate.

I can do this: When Loran was around, you commented mainly with,

"man, scum are gonna take advantage of this"

and

"Man, this game is fucked up"

and

"Lora, replace out"

--

really simple, active lurking stuff.

and then in some respects there's how you've dealt with Whisky.

elaborate.

How about,

"Modkill whiskers"

?

"lol, Idk what a modkill even does"

(how is that beneficial then?)

"I don't think there's scum in the three of us anymore, let's lynch lurkers"

(see below).
There's probably other stuff, but I'm just pulling this from memory, fuck using your ISO.

Oh, and then you've tried to say that "scum can't be among us three" when actually they can

I don't remember saying that. Quote me please.[/quote]DONE AAAAAAND

Because I think you're scum. Put shortly, you took the opportunity to lurk and then threw a vote on the wagon at the end with no explanation. I believed the slot was scum, but by the end I was willing to force replace him (if Irish even does WotC) and lynch whoever replaced in.

Why are you unvoting Voided?
Why are you voting TheShadow?

Because I don't think scum are in us three anymore. Pressure needs to be applied on the actual lurkers.

Put shortly, you took the opportunity to lurk and then threw a vote on the wagon at the end with no explanation.

1. I only lurked when you guys were fucking around with Lora.
2. I have explained my vote. I did it because he was being destructive.

I suggest you unvote me and vote Shadow. He fits your profile for scum.

DONE.

Hey, but this makes you look really scummy and buddying. You lurk During the Loran fiasco, you come up trying to [DO SOMETHING IDFK WHAT IS A MODKILL GUYS LOLOLOL] to an active player who you thought was town before hand, and think is town again afterward, THEN YOU BUDDY US.
COOL BEANS.
You buddy us, saying, "Oh, but I don't think you're scum anymore: let's lynch lurkers! They can't defend themselves, so let's lynch them, keep the heat off of me!"

That said, Yeah, let's lynch a fucking lurker. We don't have a deadline, we don't have enough players to lynch anyone who CAN defend themselves, so let's lynch a lurker. Who has the most votes? TheShadow?

Vote:TheShadow

even though I had a townread. If we can lynch him, the slot won't have to be replaced, and maybe the game will be over before it can die.

[CryMeARiver]

I need a VC

[Whiskers]

VC, THANKS WHISKERS, YOU'RE A REAL COOL CAT

Guy_Named_Riggs: Venrob, TheShadow, (L-3)
PMysterious: Absta101, (L-4)
Absta101: Whiskers, VoidedMafia, (L-3)
TheShadow: VoidedMafia, Absta101, TheShadow, PMysterious, Venrob (hammer is here), Whiskers,

(L+1)

Venrob: (L-5)
VoidedMafia: (L-5)
Whiskers: (L-5)
CryMeARiver: Whiskers, (L-4)

Shadow, are you town or scum?

[Whiskers]

I need a VC

What do you even fucking need it for, it's not like you're going to post ever.

[CryMeARiver]

I need a VC

What do you even fucking need it for, it's not like you're going to post ever.

Please take your bullshit somewhere else where other people will appreciate it.

[Whiskers]

You have your votecount, now what?

[CryMeARiver]

You have your votecount, now what?

What do you want from me? You guys lynched the scum already.

[Voidedmafia]

That's Whisky for ya. Buddy who answers questions for me.

But that's pretty much what I wanted to say. You all but avoided the Loran deal (with 1-2 exceptions, actually, everyone else did, really); at the cost of being rather general I don't like some of your interactions with Whiskers (like the ones she expressed); and you're trying to shift most/all the attention off us when there's no reason to really do that (not that I don't think the lurkers need attention, but you're acting like there's totally no reason at all to look at us (aka you), no wai!).

CMAR: Your apparantly inability to give anything is noted. Thanks for not playing!

[Whiskers]

Consider my dying wish to be that CMAR be speedlynched tomorrow, sans trial.

[Whiskers]

I need a VC

You have your votecount, now what?

What do you want from me? You guys lynched the scum already.

I want whatever you needed that VC for.

[CryMeARiver]

I need a VC

You have your votecount, now what?

What do you want from me? You guys lynched the scum already.

I want whatever you needed that VC for.

Oh it was merely to see if I needed to vote for Shadow anymore