↑ Vi wrote:Tierce, Shadoweh, T/S
I thought you were just making fun of our initials actually.
Junior dude who I have been reading as WickedJester this entire time: No. That statement of alignment is reflective of what I concluded as of that post. IE as of that post I believed my voting block was Townie Obvtown. The pengu thing was just that his first post was shaky and is unrelated to optimism. I honestly don't remember which comment that was in response to. And CTD didn't completely ignore Empire's post so. If I seem disinterested in arguing with you it's because I think you're town too.
Tierce I am extremely disapoint right now. Someone not commenting on the general town read on you isn't noteworthy. Vi should not need to explain your own vote to you. You should seriously stop blowing off reading Vi, even if you can't pick up sekrit scum tells, you can still find the town ones right? I'm not even going to comment on the other thing you did because I think you said it just to annoy me. I have no intestinal disagreements to your N case though and will consider following.
↑ N wrote:
Aw, I didn't know you cared.
I've noticed in quite a few of my games I've alienated people and gotten myself mislynched, so I'm trying a new thing. I'm not sure what you're exactly expecting from me (have you gotten my meta mixed up with someone else's?), but I can go through the whole thread and make snarky comments if you'd like?
I would prefer you make a post with the snarky comments you've been reserving for people actually, because a quick glance at your meta says that seems to be how you express reads of people constantly, when this game all your comments haven't involved your opinions of people. Specifically the why's, instead of it looking like you're getting scum reads out your butt. (also I like snark)
↑ CrashTextDummie wrote:Llamarble:
Llamarble wrote:Post 49 remains a scum pattern match for me; in addition to the link making it feel like a construction instead of a collection of thoughts, here's an attack on X but let's vote Y tends to gnaw at me.
This feels like you're inventing reasons to justify a bad vote after the fact. It's not a good reason either as I was not attacking one person while voting another, but rather attacking two persons and voting one of them. I can hardly vote for two people at once.
If it helps you did the same thing he's accusing you of in #189, start off by re-itterating you still have scumreads on the same two people, end by reminding people you still totally suspect the guy your vote is on, and frankly all three of your suspicions reasons look skin-deep. Empire's post was self-reflective because he was answering the question I asked him about himself. Summing up my reasoning for attacking Empire as BoP is simplistic and in my opinion wrong. And saying Llamarble is being self-conscious about his wagon is weird when multiple people have noticed it's more like annoyance, more weird when there's no point of reference for what exactly was weak about it.
Empire wrote:
CTD: I initially liked the way he came across in his early posts w.r.t. his vote on me but I'm not a fan of #189 at all, it feels like he's trying to fan the flames of the argument Shadoweh and I have been having while at the same time expressing his support for a Llamarble wagon.
Why do you have a problem with this? It's not like I'm just paying lip service to the Llamarble wagon, my vote is there. You're using awfully suggestive lingo here to characterize my post; why do you think I'm "trying to fan the flames" of your argument (implying a scum motivation) as opposed to me trying to call attention to the argument because I can see a scummy mindset behind it from either or both players? Unless I've missed it, you haven't commented on the fact that Shadoweh is subjecting you to a pretty well established logical fallacy and are seemingly just riding with it, which somewhat baffles me. She appears neither among your town, nor your scum reads. What's your read on her?[/quote]
You know, I discarded this thought reading the first part because I thought it was dumb but 'or both players'? You are seriously trying to keep open the possibility that Empire and I are scum together and I started harrassing him immediately? And I'm not a rocket scientist but Empire has said multiple times that he thinks I'm lower-tier town. Reading him yourself would have solved this conundrum.
Shadoweh has done nothing to alleviate my concerns about her and is developing into a top suspect for me. Apart from from her fallacious attack against Empire, she has not done any scumhunting so far and is seemingly going out of her way to ignore all relevant aspects of the game, most notably the Llamarble wagon.
Fallacious is a dirty sounding word. Can you stop using new and interesting verbs to describe people and instead actually point to what is causing these magical reads of yours?
Shadoweh wrote:Guess I'll check out [...] the main wagon even though I don't feel interested in him which is usually my subconscious telling me to sleep through reading town lynches.
I am actually not quite sure how to read this sentence, but I think what she's saying here is that she "subconsciously" sees Llamarble as a town lynch waiting to happen, and if that's the case, she should have been doing something to counteract the wagon. Her previous excuse for not commenting on the wagon was that she had a null read on him, so I don't think this is terribly consistent either.
I don't have any proof to directly counteract the wagon, therefore I have been attempting to pursue the lead elsewhere that I saw to try and drive up a different wagon. You'll have to explain to me what else exactly I should have been doing to counteract a wagon I was never on. That comment above is perfectly consistent with what I said earlier, null, uninterested, not worth looking at, but no concrete reason to trust.
I think the weirdest thing about your post though, is that after those three statements, you end up changing votes to N, the person that frankly you had the least and weakest things to say about. 'he said something offensive about this wagon' is attacking for Bad Play and not for Scum Play. It's not like it's hard to come up with real reasons to vote the guy either. I think you're attempting to ride the next easy wave. You also have the least amount of posts and your reads aren't changing at all during the day, you're just inventing reasons to keep holding onto your old scum reads. In my opinion it is near impossible for a townie to believe the same people are scum for an entire Day 1. I changed my mind about what I said earlier in this post, I think you're the most likely scum in this thread and I would vig you without a claim.
##VOTE: CrashTextDummie
the read registers in my periphery but the tone doesn't match. Makes me go huh?