Micro 179 - Mainstream Mini Mafia III [CULT WIN AGAIN]

[chkflip]

You gave in to his join date; never give in to their join date.

[Who]

It was theoretically possible for town to win. Day two: Doc and I lynch Candillan, night two: Pope recruits doc, day 3, I lynch pope.

[TheIrishPope]

Candillan would have stopped his own lynch I'm guessing

[chkflip]

Incorrect. 2:2 game means the town cannot reach a typical majority. PRs are not calculated in the raw numbers.

[TheIrishPope]

You guys played an awesome game, I just tried to lay back as much as possible

[Candillan]

You recruited me?
Schweet, I still win.
Sigh Doc that tunnel though ;~;
Why would you have lynched me and not Pope?

[Candillan]

Hey that just goes to show that I WAS RIGHT AND YOU SHOULD TRUST ME
Though tbh it was suspicious how Pope was so sure it would go into Night 1.
But then Doc said the same thing and I was like "Oh no it must be one of you two darn iiiiiiiit but too late now"

[Candillan]

Also a fun note: I had a back and forth with Chk and my role was literally just there to be claimed. Not like I would ever be able to use anything in it.

[TheIrishPope]

Your crappy role
I can't believe Bus Driver was believable

Candillan why didn't you stop the execution?

[Candillan]

Because nothing would have stopped you from winning anyway.
D2: 2-3
We hit scum
D3: 2-2
You still win woohoo
it was literally a one day game no matter what

Yeah literally I was like "Oh hey so if I get BP does that stop me from getting converted one-shot" and chk was like "Unfortunately, no."
;~;

[TheIrishPope]

And if you lynched me?

[Candillan]

I don't think it was ever confirmed whether or not the CF could recruit.

[TheIrishPope]

Angel pretty much won the game for me then

[Candillan]

Doc did.

[ArcAngel9]

'Too dumb to be scum' is a legit strategy. Props, TIP.

Angel, every one of my criticisms stands in full force post-reveal. I may have been flat-out wrong about TIP, leading to my initial suspicion of you, but you did absolutely, positively squat that was pro-Town. You lurked, you OMGUSed, you pointed fingers without reason or coherent case, and all of that caused the seed of suspicion to explode into full certainty. I bear some responsibility for leading the charge against you, but your belligerence and refusal to be productive sealed the deal. Please act more calmly and rationally next time we're Town together.

are you freaking kidding me? Despite the nonsense you created, i read you as prop town which makes me a better player than you're... you were adamant, stubborn and wasn't looking other possibilities.. we lost becuz of you..

you're a fail!!!

[Doc Holliday]

Angel, your refusal to do anything productive made you the only choice.

I'm willing to accept responsibility for my part in the loss, but you didn't make any effort. You were wrong, offensive, and unproductive. I was just wrong.

Candillan, don't give me that crap. You thought I was wrong, but made practically no attempt to push any agenda of your own.

[Candillan]

It's almost as if you're claiming Cult Leader.

Also, if we mislynch, that's pretty much an instant win for the Cult.
Also, I haven't seen much of a "meh" attitude with Who in this game so far. What are you talking about?
What are your reads on the other three of us?

I already stated my reads.

Here:

My gut says that TheIrishPope shouldn't be governor. a.k.a. I think you're scummy.
Who I'm less so worried about. a.k.a. Null, but I still feel something odd from that slot.
Holliday I'm feeling good about. a.k.a. He's townie.
ArcAngel I dunno. a.k.a. She's null.

Okay so reasons why you're scummy.
1. You instantly recommended me to be the Governor, even though I hadn't posted anything. That seems like you're trying to get on my good side somewhat by pseudo-buddying me. That is scummy.
2. You elected yourself for Governor, but you put me as another potential candidate in order to make yourself seem okay with not getting the power. It honestly seems as if you're wholly interested in grabbing the power yourself, which is why you instantly voted yourself right afterward.
3. Your reads seem as if you don't want to tread on any toes. I don't personally count your reads as reads per se, because all it is is you calling all of us null, then voting the 'lurker'. ArcAngel hasn't necessarily been lurking. This game's been open for two days, and she confirmed yesterday. I wouldn't call that lurking.
4. In post #43, all you did was say that Who is null, say you should be Governor (but not //why// you should be Gov), then defend the idea of the Cult Leader getting Gov. Why would you say that if you were town? You don't want to give the Cult Leader the advantage in any way, shape, or form. In that respect, I feel as if you're trying to have us warm up to the idea of the CL getting the Gov. That I interpret as you saying "I'm Cult Leader and I want the power. It's not like it's gonna do much harm!"

Who I'm somewhat worrisome of for the same reason as #4. The conversation around post 31 gave me bad feelings, but he was saying it in more of an objective fashion than you. He also makes me feel ehh about him because he, too, seemed relatively eager for the power.

Doc reads town for me because instead of saying that he should be Gov, he started talking about who //shouldn't// be Gov. That gave me great vibes, and he's been calling people out on being scummy.

ArcAngel has had one post. Therefore, null.

Pedit:
Yeah, I'm pretty confident in Doc being town.

@Doc, I agree that who has been slipping under the radar, but I feel as if we should give Arc the benefit of the doubt. I'm also not confident in your townread on Pope. Rolefishing is aghterrible, and his motivations don't seem town to me.

@Pope,

1. Fair enough.
2. I see the scum motivation behind it. It mostly lies in the words 'must' and 'necessary'. I don't see it as necessary; I see it as scummy.
3. Yes, it is beneficial to the town. If I didn't know what it does, I wouldn't have started campaigning for it. I would have at least looked it up.

I see more defense than scumhunting, though to be fair, the only posts I've seen have been focused on you.
Rolefishing is still terrible.

You said that his deferring of the power is him trying to keep the heat off him, but then you admit that he did attack you, which is inherently not keeping the heat off him?
Also, I agreed with his points. It wasn't out of the blue, he was calling you out on what was wrong with your post.
I'm not joking about anything I post. What about them makes it look like I'm joking?

So you have a nullread on Doc and a townread on me. Didn't you just say that you had no reads? What makes you suddenly read town on me? Weren't you just calling some of my actions scummy?

Fair enough on the last bit, but your eagerness is still troubling.



Is everyone okay with me being the Governor? If so, we can move into night zero. I personally want to wait until ArcAngel posts her thoughts before we do so.

[Candillan]

^My case on Pope.

[ArcAngel9]

Angel, your refusal to do anything productive made you the only choice.

I'm willing to accept responsibility for my part in the loss, but you didn't make any effort. You were wrong, offensive, and unproductive. I was just wrong.

Candillan, don't give me that crap. You thought I was wrong, but made practically no attempt to push any agenda of your own.

Yeah right, and even now your continue to support your stupidness. Not for a second you wanted to listen my cases, you were so much against my mass claim idea, You didn't tried to be in my shoes to understand my reasoning. You were so much against my claim and all you did was trying to prove that my claim was fake instead rolling out the balance with other claims. TOWN LOST THIS GAME BECUZ YOUR STUPIDITY
YOU MADE THIS GAME LIVING HELL AND WENT ON TWISTING EVERYTHING I SAID. AND NO ELSE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT ELSE WHERE!!!!

AGAIN, YOU'RE A FAIL!!! GET THAT!!!

[TheIrishPope]

Ok Angel, no need for names

[ArcAngel9]

^ Uff...you and Candilian won.. and it wasn't fair..

[Who]

Pope, I would know that if I had not been recruited, Candillan had, and the governor could not stop their own lynch.

[Candillan]

Wait, why wouldn't Doc have been recruited?

[Who]

Because that wouldn't make much sense. Why recruit the only one who doesn't guarantee your survival past that day?

[Candillan]

Good point.