In post 322, TheGarantula wrote:Hmm, the last time you posted reads you said Guyett was null; Cabd and Derivan were the only two you said seemed scummy but didn't read as null.
In post 254, bestwillcui wrote:
Derivan: appears a little scummy and lurking quite a bit, but I don't understand why Fegelein is pushing for a lynch on him.
Guyett: has some scummy traits, but more town aspects. Null
Cabd: There seems to be a huge wagon on him and I kind of understand it, but it seems a little over. However, he does look a little scummy
You also pointed to JasonWazza as being scummy for bandwagoning but then 180'd without explanation. Why did you choose Guyett as scummiest this time? What makes him more scummy than the other three you previously mentioned?
So I went from null to scummiest....
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:02 am
by Cabd
ISO time. I am so lost in this game. Fuck it. Throwing away my reads, treating this like a replace in.
Doing this in player list order. Guyett first.
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:16 am
by TheGarantula
In post 324, Cabd wrote:Yeah. Asking for deadline extension is not alignment indicative at all.
Yeah I didn't mean it was a townie indication, just that it seemed to contradict his one accusation a bit.
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:58 am
by Cabd
Guyett
Spoiler: First Part of ISO up to post 130ish
First thing of major note:
No RVS interaction at all? He flat out skipped it while everybody else was RVSing.
Post 45 agrees that the time gap seems suspicious. Then post 61 questions me about my joke.
Post 66 “leaning towards cabd too” no vote.
Post 77 ALARM BELLS ALARM BELLS Buddies right up to garg’s townread of him, emphasizing it
Post 79 claims lack of vote is due to “trying to read people” but how does one pressure people without a vote?
Post 89:
Darq-Light Scumread
Best- Lots of stuff said about him, but no actual read given
Derivan- Not a read either, just fluff
Garg- Town read
Jason- No actual read given
Cabd- “a bit of a Scumread”
Reg- No actual read other than “posts make sense”
Goodmorning- unexplained townread
So his initial reads list gives no read for 4 players, but posts fluff about them instead.
92 we find finally a vote (for me but whatever)
100
Guyett, is posting absolutely nothing of any value town-leaning? Because that’s what you’re saying seemingly in your first part of post 100
Guyett as of post 110 has re-iterated that he is town like…. Let me count actually…
Post 77
Post 100
Post 110
So three times so far. I’ll keep a running total.
Since guyett provided a link to his home forum I’m currently reading his past scumgames/towngames. Hang tight for that and the rest of this ISO, moving locations from work to home, so have to truncate my post here for now.
Bah right when my work shift is over. GM what time zone are you in?
I'll be back around 7:30 or 8PM west coast US time to finish up.
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:43 pm
by goodmorning
That's roughly midnight here but I'm sure I'll probably still be up.
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:06 pm
by Guyett
Spoiler: cabd ISO
post 23 your little joke
post 42 and 43 after Darq, at the time I agreed as it potentially looked like scum lurking but it turns out they were just inactive.
post 49, you say it was not merely an activity tell... so what was it then?
post 51 promising info... will you deliver?
post 99 some excuse for not posting much.. any sign on that info yet?
post 136 switches target to Gar... The reasoning is atrocious. You bring up an example from a different game done by a different player and expect us to believe this tell... then upon seeing the scumslip it is obvious that the tell that you pointed out was not actually the slip
post 139 use of you is not weird when used in the following way;
@Cabd, you are blah blah blah. the @ indicates the player is asking said person a direct question
post 166 so Gar gets a townread for looking up info on the other game O_o
post 193 on to me now, another promise, this time for a big post, I wonder when it'll come
post 205 linking to your meta for how to tell if you are town or scum... look back at my reads on Jason, It would be very easy for you to point out how you play as town and as scum, then play like you would as town despite being scum.
As GM pointed out this was an unasked for self meta, big scum tell
post 212 another promise, this time to ISO me... bear in mind this was posted nearly 5 DAYS AGO
post 213 I dont even see how what I posted is suspicious...
post 292 asking for an extension due to the outage.... as GM pointed out she did this in another game while playing as scum
post 294 not a townslip.... covering for your scum buddy?
post 300 Eh scum dont know the exact setup but instead of a 1 in 6 guess they have a 1 in 2 guess of what set up it is. Those odds are nice for fake claiming a role via breadcrumbs
post 307 still no sign of that post you've been on about, promising to do it the next day.
post 328 finally the post. took its time to get here though
flicking through your posts
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:00 pm
by Cabd
The fuck is this? Am I being counter-ISO'd or something?
Is that even a thing like seriously what?
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:04 pm
by Guyett
Best can wait, Cabd is annoying me now
UNVOTE: VOTE: cabd
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:11 pm
by TheGarantula
tl;dr: Guyett thinks most of Cabd's posts reek of scum?
Why exactly are you voting Best over Cabd if you think he's so scummy?
P-Edit:
D'oh
post 99 some excuse for not posting much.. any sign on that info yet?
You sort of missed the point of that post... The "info" was just part of his pressure ploy.
post 213 I dont even see how what I posted is suspicious...
The ordering was supposedly suspicious; you agree with him but then question him on the thing you seemingly agreed with. Also, I made a post already that responded to him about that.
post 300 Eh scum dont know the exact setup but instead of a 1 in 6 guess they have a 1 in 2 guess of what set up it is. Those odds are nice for fake claiming a role via breadcrumbs
How do you arrive at 1 in 2? Also, goodmorning and Cabd made a fairly good case as to why breadcrumbing as scum isn't smart in a game like this.
P-Edit:
The fuck is this? Am I being counter-ISO'd or something?
Is that even a thing like seriously what?
inorite?
Guyett are you just doing this as an OMGUS-type-thing?
Post 79 claims lack of vote is due to “trying to read people” but how does one pressure people without a vote?
Post 89:
Darq-Light Scumread
Best- Lots of stuff said about him, but no actual read given
Derivan- Not a read either, just fluff
Garg- Town read
Jason- No actual read given
Cabd- “a bit of a Scumread”
Reg- No actual read other than “posts make sense”
Goodmorning- unexplained townread
So his initial reads list gives no read for 4 players, but posts fluff about them instead.
92 we find finally a vote (for me but whatever)
100
Guyett, is posting absolutely nothing of any value town-leaning? Because that’s what you’re saying seemingly in your first part of post 100
Guyett as of post 110 has re-iterated that he is town like…. Let me count actually…
Post 77
Post 100
Post 110
So three times so far. I’ll keep a running total.
In post 266, ryhx wrote:guyett: the newbie who's not really a newbie. That he feels the need to keep mentioning that he's town is pinging me. He is also constantly badgering people to post entire read lists, which is a little annoying, and maybe he's scum trying to feel up other people's positions. Because he's mostly been non-committal about his reads, see 144 where he basically ended with 'but it could be anyone'.
Why exactly are you voting Best over Cabd if you think he's so scummy?
P-Edit:
D'oh
post 99 some excuse for not posting much.. any sign on that info yet?
You sort of missed the point of that post... The "info" was just part of his pressure ploy.
post 213 I dont even see how what I posted is suspicious...
The ordering was supposedly suspicious; you agree with him but then question him on the thing you seemingly agreed with. Also, I made a post already that responded to him about that.
post 300 Eh scum dont know the exact setup but instead of a 1 in 6 guess they have a 1 in 2 guess of what set up it is. Those odds are nice for fake claiming a role via breadcrumbs
How do you arrive at 1 in 2? Also, goodmorning and Cabd made a fairly good case as to why breadcrumbing as scum isn't smart in a game like this.
P-Edit:
The fuck is this? Am I being counter-ISO'd or something?
Is that even a thing like seriously what?
inorite?
Guyett are you just doing this as an OMGUS-type-thing?
sorry that should read 1 in 2 or 1 in 4 depending on whether there is a roleblocker scum in the game. I forgot that there was 2 mafia goon slots on the 3X3 matrix.
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:33 pm
by ryhx
In post 336, Guyett wrote:post 205 linking to your meta for how to tell if you are town or scum... look back at my reads on Jason, It would be very easy for you to point out how you play as town and as scum, then play like you would as town despite being scum.
You're calling out Cabd for playing meta after you pull out your meta?
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:04 pm
by bestwillcui
Ok that was a little confusing.
@Guyett you went from null to scummiest because at first Derivan was lurking, bt then a couple of posts before my vote he started contributing, so I didnt want to vote him.
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:17 pm
by TheGarantula
What about JasonWazza and Cabd?
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:05 pm
by goodmorning
I keep rereading the last few posts but none of them make sense.
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:06 pm
by Cabd
Guyett took my ISO badly, raged back, people pointed it out.
Then other stuff.
Still working on the ISOs fwiw. I'll bother with responding to his "ISO counter" when I'm done. We have another 4 days. I'll have lots of free time tomorrow.
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:28 pm
by JasonWazza
Note to self: check guys read post at home.
This is here as a reminder for myself.
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:04 pm
by Derivan
In post 345, goodmorning wrote:I keep rereading the last few posts but none of them make sense.
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:32 pm
by Guyett
There was nothing rage about my Iso, more merely showing that it is possible to do one in a few minutes, not over a week after promising to do one.
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I'm here now though