Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:08 am
This head is back.
I'm keep asking my other head to explain the kdub scumread but no avail :/
I'm keep asking my other head to explain the kdub scumread but no avail :/
Care to share?In post 327, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:Oh now I see the reason for kdub scumread. <.<
Dear other head: use the QT more often ;-;
I have bork as null.In post 267, Amethyst Snowflake wrote::/
we only have two days left on deadline?
I don't have anything against Borkie yet, though I hope that hydra'ing with him gives me a decent look into his mind. so far though, he feels town and I'm seeing a borkie similar to the micro that just finished over the Borkie in Venmars game.
I am unsure of Angel, I have him as null-scum. when she's town, I immediately get a warm feeling from her and I have yet to get that feeling. She feels strangely tame this game, I'm used to town angel omgus'ing and town angel being more erratic. I have yet to see angel's play subdued as town, though I have seen that quite a bit from her as scum.
FFery, we can't come to a consensus on you. I think you may be scum, though you contributions here are pretty good. I see a fair amount of frustration in how you respond to both me and GM, frustration I have seen from town-ffery though. I see you trying to be patient with me while I am personally (Mara) being somewhat frustrating with my play and I was kinda expecting you to come at me a little bit harder. I expected everyone to come at me a little bit harder, and the fact that people are letting us slide by with minimal content is worrisome.
as for Kdub, I think he's scum. He hasn't done anything that was his own. I feel like he is carefully trying to blend in, not draw to much attention to himself. I don't like the fact that he doesn't want to commit a opinion on us, and why he isn't trying to figure out our motivation behind our claim when he says he doesn't understand it. He's being really back-seatish with his scum-hunting.
Kdub, MC, and AA are my top suspects
You, and letters are right under them
and Bork, Bro, and GM are my town/leaning town reads
though GIF doesn't like Bro so he is a talking point for us.
She already posted here.In post 328, fferyllt wrote:Care to share?In post 327, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:Oh now I see the reason for kdub scumread. <.<
Dear other head: use the QT more often ;-;
I have zero experiential meta with kdub, so the comments about him being back-seatish, etc., have to be relative to something. Her description of his play at that point looked a little over the top to me, but it did cause me to watch him more closely since then. Have either of you played with him before?In post 331, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:She already posted here.In post 328, fferyllt wrote:Care to share?In post 327, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:Oh now I see the reason for kdub scumread. <.<
Dear other head: use the QT more often ;-;
In post 310, goodmorning wrote:Completely random. Doesn't seem to make sense from a Town standpoint. The only reason one would claim so early is to head a lynch off at the pass. Why do that? Because it makes you look better in the future if you haven't had a million L-1 wagons run up on you. Who is concerned about appearances? Scum.
So when I claim at L-2, it's "completely random" and "doesn't make sense" as town. When BRO claims at L-2In post 319, goodmorning wrote:What do you mean because of his claim? I'm not in favour of leaving him alive another day just so when he can't actually prove it we lynch him then. I think he is Scum.
I mentioned earlier that I found BRO Town by PoE. I now find him Town on his own merits. He's in this game, paying attention, answering questions. His recent posts in particular have been quite Town, buoyed by his claim, the timing and content of which absolutely make sense from a bravadoing Town standpoint.
I'm not saying whether I think my power is important for town or not, only that it's provable.In post 329, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:Tbh I don't see anything wrong with kdub ATP, because if he truly believes that his power is important for town, I can understand his play.
Yes, because he was claiming directly in response to fferyllt. It fits with the rest of his gameplay, it's coherent, and it does make sense. You claimed at L-3, completely out of the blue, in an entirely self-preservatory way.In post 338, Kdub wrote:In post 310, goodmorning wrote:Completely random. Doesn't seem to make sense from a Town standpoint. The only reason one would claim so early is to head a lynch off at the pass. Why do that? Because it makes you look better in the future if you haven't had a million L-1 wagons run up on you. Who is concerned about appearances? Scum.So when I claim at L-2, it's "completely random" and "doesn't make sense" as town. When BRO claims at L-2In post 319, goodmorning wrote:What do you mean because of his claim? I'm not in favour of leaving him alive another day just so when he can't actually prove it we lynch him then. I think he is Scum.
I mentioned earlier that I found BRO Town by PoE. I now find him Town on his own merits. He's in this game, paying attention, answering questions. His recent posts in particular have been quite Town, buoyed by his claim, the timing and content of which absolutely make sense from a bravadoing Town standpoint.in the very next post, the timing "absolutely makes sense" as town.
I am assuming you're not going to claim Scum, therefore I am indeed assuming you're lying. Perhaps logic isn't your strong suit.Also, note that goodmorning didn't even respond to the logic fail I pointed out in 313. He's making an assumption of what he thinks my claim is, then he's calling me a liar based on that assumption.
Your claims are dissimilar. See above for my reasoning.And look at GM's initial suspicion of me. Very mild compared to his recent attacks, which again I suspect is motivated by his eagerness to force my lynch through at the deadline. He even admits in 300 that his suspicion of me was "nebulous", but suddenly my claim makes me more scum? See above for his inconsistency in his attitude toward me and BRO's claims.
And now you're going chainsaw? Without flips? Dull. Unoriginal. Classic Scum.If the deadline weren't an issue, I would prefer a GM lynch to a BRO lynch because his latest attacks have been scummier, but I think GM's defense of BRO here makes them a likely pairing.
What does it mean to "buy time"? The deadline is what it is, and me claiming isn't going to change that. As I said, I don't think it's to the town's advantage for me to claim more than is needed, and all that is needed right now is exactly what I have revealed.In post 339, BROseidon wrote:Kdub, the difference is that I'm being resolute in my claim. Yours looks like you are trying to buy time. If your PR is really that important, you can claim it outright and take protection. It looks like you are trying to stall for time.
Also, wrt to the me/GM "pairing," what would me flipping town do to your read on GM?
False, I claimed at L-2 (AS, you, BRO). Yes, it is self-preservatory, because the deadline was one day away and I wanted to avoid a situation where I am run up to L-1, claim, then there's no time left for discussion or to switch to someone else (resulting in a mislynch on me). So much for "completely out of the blue". Anybody paying attention can see why I, as town, would be claiming what I did in that spot given the deadline pressure. That DGB quote is completely irrelevant here.In post 340, goodmorning wrote:Yes, because he was claiming directly in response to fferyllt. It fits with the rest of his gameplay, it's coherent, and it does make sense. You claimed at L-3, completely out of the blue, in an entirely self-preservatory way.
Besides which, a relevant statement coined by DGB: "Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity."
So basically anything I claim is going to be disbelieved by you. That is quite different from what your post 310 is saying.In post 340, goodmorning wrote:I am assuming you're not going to claim Scum, therefore I am indeed assuming you're lying. Perhaps logic isn't your strong suit.
I suspected you far before you ever indicated suspicion of me, so this is false again.In post 340, goodmorning wrote:And now you're going chainsaw? Without flips? Dull. Unoriginal. Classic Scum.
bork, this post strikes me as town-motivated. I've been waffly about some other posts, but this one feels townish.In post 339, BROseidon wrote:MC, If I shoot you and miss we have 6 going into tomorrow, which is MyLo. I guess shooting you means town can vote to no-lynch and go down to 5, but that's the only benefit I would see.
Kdub, the difference is that I'm being resolute in my claim. Yours looks like you are trying to buy time. If your PR is really that important, you can claim it outright and take protection. It looks like you are trying to stall for time.
Also, wrt to the me/GM "pairing," what would me flipping town do to your read on GM?
Tempted to lynch vote you purely because you directed me to your wiki where you don't link to your games, you just list them as text, and you don't label them by alignment.In post 338, Kdub wrote:ffery: Check my wiki for a list of completed games (sorry, I haven't linked them). I feel that my meta depends more on the setup and playerlist than my alignment, but I'll let you judge that for yourself.
You are forgiven, Rachie ♥In post 348, RachMarie wrote:I am so sorry everyone I have not been able to sit at the computer for very long due to my knee. VC coming up and yes I will grant an extension of 2 days based on mod being not doing her job well .... Rach