A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Thor665]

1. And yet it was done, and was awesome. Fear me.

2. You could be - let's see if anyone even blinks an eye at me doing so.
But what is your experience with me as a man who reads everything? I know we've played together before, but which games?

[elleheathen]

what's the harm in asking the flavor name when he's revealed what his role is?

What's the advantage?
I mean, other than to lynchers or something?
Because, at this point, your vague claim is 'I think Thor is too dumb to manage to have a fake name claim to go with his fake Miller claim if he's scum who decided to gambit Miller.
And to that I say - look at my win rate as scum and my join date and then stop trying to explain to your grandmother how to suck eggs.

It's not far off the mark, no. But less about you ability to dredge up a fakeclaim flavor role that would match and more about it being an easy way for me to weigh the merit of the claim and not have to focus on it if it were to mesh up for me. So what's the disadvantage?

[Shadoweh]

Maybe we shouldn't concentrate on stupid things like flavor name claims? Because you don't sound innocent or altruistic. Him claiming a 'good charactur 2 b miller' shouldn't influence your decision.

[Thor665]

Nope, if you can't describe the advantage than it doesn't matter if I can describe the disadvantage outside of fear of lynchers. Because, hey, fear of lynchers.
Also, seriously, my rolename will help you quantify the validity of the rather normal and pointed claim of 'Miller'?

Uh...no, it doesn't work like that with a Miller claim.

Sure, if I'd claimed ' post restricted 3-shot day vig hormonal sociopath' and then *didn't* nameclaim Caetlyn, okay, sure, maybe you have something going.
But Miller? Meh - there's only about EVERY FREAKIN' CHARACTER who is shades of gray in this series, so...yeah, I don't think it would help you do jack.

My vote on you is serious now.
How's that help your read of my roleclaim?

[elleheathen]

look at my win rate as scum and my join date and then stop trying to explain to your grandmother how to suck eggs.

First, that 'saying' implies that I was trying to advise you how to play the game. I wasn't. Second, so I should kneel to you because you're more experienced and because of that shouldn't be questioned on your actions? Never.

P-Edit: It doesn't.

[Thor665]

You're not supposed to kneel before me because I'm more experienced.
You are supposed to not waste my time with trying to catch me in a scumtell based around me not knowing how to put together a fake claim (especially one as ballsy as Day 1 Miller claim...y'know, a claim I wasn't rushed into in any way at all, nor forced to do, but chose to do as a clear strategy regardless of my alignment meaning I had time to think about it? Yeah, that one, where your plan was to catch me having not formulated a fake name claim that makes 'any sense at all' with my role claim?)

But, gawsh, fine, here's my nameclaim just for you;

Nameclaim: Casso, King of the Seals

[ooba]

But less about you ability to dredge up a fakeclaim flavor role that would match and more about it being an easy way for me to weigh the merit of the claim and not have to focus on it if it were to mesh up for me.

Also, seriously, my rolename will help you quantify the validity of the rather normal and pointed claim of 'Miller'?
...
How's that help your read of my roleclaim?

P-Edit: It doesn't.

[Thor665]

@Ooba - that is a terrible misrep and you should feel terrible.

[elleheathen]

especially one as ballsy as Day 1 Miller claim...y'know, a claim I wasn't rushed into in any way at all, nor forced to do, but chose to do as a clear strategy regardless of my alignment meaning I had time to think about it?

Yeah, I said all this when I said it was optimal play for a Miller

But, gawsh, fine, here's my nameclaim just for you;

Nameclaim: Casso, King of the Seals

You're right, it didn't help. Sorry.

And UNVOTE:
Because I'm bad and I'm playing bad.
Was more concerned with playing to flavor than I should be.

[ooba]

Nameclaim: Casso, King of the Seals

No post restrictions? (Not a serious question)

For what it's worth, I still read elle as town - misguided town and an easy target for a scum mislynch.

[Thor665]

Who are the scum pushing her and why would you push a misrep like that on someone you thought was town?

[Cephrir]

2. You could be - let's see if anyone even blinks an eye at me doing so.
But what is your experience with me as a man who reads everything? I know we've played together before, but which games?

It's not "I know Thor reads everything so much as "I know Thor tries pretty hard at this game so I would think he'd want all the available information". But if you say you don't always read everything, I believe you. If you want me to refer to past games anyhow- I thought I'd played with you prior to my first departure from the site, but I don't think that's possible due to your join date, so I must just be thinking of Open 326, which I briefly returned for and then re-disappeared.

[Cephrir]

But less about you ability to dredge up a fakeclaim flavor role that would match and more about it being an easy way for me to weigh the merit of the claim and not have to focus on it if it were to mesh up for me.

Also, seriously, my rolename will help you quantify the validity of the rather normal and pointed claim of 'Miller'?
...
How's that help your read of my roleclaim?

P-Edit: It doesn't.

@Ooba - that is a terrible misrep and you should feel terrible.

It is? Who's being misrepped? o.O

[ooba]

Who are the scum pushing her and why would you push a misrep like that on someone you thought was town?

The part "It doesn't" - (a) was either contradictory given her post on the same page (b) or comprehension error on my part - either way worth getting an explanation to set records straight.

- kanyeknowsbest
- ShadowReh who isn't on the wagon but the reaction to the elle's rolefishing was pushing it
I don't feel as strongly about Cephrir and Garruk Relentless as the above.

[Garruk Relentless]

And I suppose I should clarify;

I'm only a Miller insomuch as I show up as guilty (or the equivalent used for this game) in regular cop investigations.
That means people who are not "regular cops" could still check me and I'll be town.
So, y'know, I'm an Innocent Child effect basically.

This post comes off as genuine, and when considering our own restriction, we believe Thor about his miller claim.

-SSK

[PrideandJoy]

ball so hard got a broke clock
rolleys that don't tick tock
audemars thats losin time
hidden behind all these big rocks
gold bottles
scold models
spillin Ace on my sick J's

[PrideandJoy]

look you need to crawl before you ball
come and meet me in the bathroom stall
and show me why you deserve to have it allll

[PrideandJoy]

In other news where the hell is ooba's head at/reads coming from someone please explain me
I do not comprehend

[macmollie]

oh god I think thor is actually scum this game but I made a promise to myself not to go after him right away cos it will only clog the game up with the mollie/thor shitshow

[Zdenek]

I think what she's getting at is the wights was intentional. He was voting for someone who hand t confirmed...therefore a wight. Badumtiss.

Also, it's a upick. In upicks faraday decides roles before alignments. So a scum team of wights is really really low on the possibility scale.

This is such a weird defense of Elleheathen. What were you thinking?

mmmmm the point brought up about roles-before-alignment pretty much invalidates that theory yeah

UNVOTE:

So what did you think that the slip was in the first place?

I mean, I guess that Faraday could just flavor the scumteam as wights, but it doesn't seem like Faraday, especially when there are definitely a couple of explicitly undead characters that could get picked.

It was a shotgun thought, and in retrospect, not a terribly good one. *shrug*

Okay.

I'm with Mac/Mollie on this - I don't see it as a slip, since if this was the choice of flavor for the scum team there's little chance that the scum team would be the wights.

With that said, it's a 24p game, this is going to be multiball because Faraday and because common sense.

AFFC had 23 players (22 if you don't count the scum tree stump) and one scum team, so multi-ball is not a given.

Amrun

, do you think that ActionDan is a weak scum player?

I really dislike this vote. I anticipated his explanation, which came later as I expected it to, and I still dislike it. It's just so... Meh. It's so blown out of proportion and imo more guilty of the thing it accuses than kanye ever was (and plus kanye is really town).

On the other hand, going after kanye at that precise moment feels a bit ballsy for scum.

At three pages in? You dislike my vote on Kanye, but you're attacking people for essentially RVS shenanigans.

Zdenek feels scummy

You'll come around.

I assume that Andrius faking his post restriction. I didn't think he was that sort of asshole though.

And I suppose I should clarify;

I'm only a Miller insomuch as I show up as guilty (or the equivalent used for this game) in regular cop investigations.
That means people who are not "regular cops" could still check me and I'll be town.
So, y'know, I'm an Innocent Child effect basically.

You know that there are non-regular cops in the game?

I don't see the misrep by ooba that Thor is pushing.

[macmollie]

I think I feel better about quadz mebbe

if andy is faking a posting restriction as scum he won't be the only 1 wanting bodily harm done to him. especially with that claim. reck early breadcrumbed grey wolf in rw (it was why we removed our vote) but then he looked scummy and I thought he was a slamdunk for a lynch but no

I think I kind of like alfred too

wat's with the kanye hate

eta: xpost with zden

hhhmmm....

[Eddard Stark]

Day 1, Vc 10

PrideandJoy (2) -

Tammy, Amrun

Cephrir (1) -

Goat on a Raft

kanyeknowsbest (3) -

Zdenek, Andrius, ooba

elleheathen (5) -

PrideandJoy, Cephrir, Garruk Relentless, kanyeknowsbest, Thor665

quadz08 (3) -

Alfred Borden, Shadoweh,StupendousMan

Amrun (2) -

Tierce, macmollie

Andrius (1) -

Benmage

Not voting (7)

- Messiah Complex, Nautilius, SafetyDance, Syryana, PeaceBringer, quadz08, elleheathen

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch

• Deadline Date: 1st of October at 17:05 EDT
  
• Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-10-01 17:05:01)
  
• Thor and Benmage are V/la

If there are any VC mistakes please let me know

[Nautilius]

We're not gonna sign probably. SSK and I have different enough voices though that it shouldn't be too hard to discern us though. Example: the other posts in this thread are all SSK. I sometimes refer to myself as a friendly wolf token, too.

I cannot tell the difference between posters in virtually any hydra because I am not very observant. As such, I would like to request that everyone sign.

You'll be able to tell the difference between Elli and I, I promise. And if you can't, maybe you don't need to.

Man this sucks. Tierce, you picked a badass woomens like Tyene Sand or something, right?

might i suggest you vote for pride and joy instead of rolefishing?

Well, this actually is easy.

Unvote
Vote Kanye

That's funny, I was thinking the exact opposite thing.

um, nothing of import has happened in the game. There is a run up, that is it. No one has pinged me. oh, and what I do, I do well. I don't suck but I don't play the way you do. Learn from it or not. I don't engage in pretend reasons and blah blah blah meta. If I make a meta comment and take time to do it, it is worth attending to. I have nothing right now. 5 pages in on day one and blah blah blah.

If you want me to ping you, keep posting like this!

Catching up now, a lot of chesskid's posts in the vein of "this usually foolproof scumhunting method isn't working for me this game and I don't know why" read really genuine to me and I think he'd be more likely to bullshit something rather than just straight up admit he's struggling with reads in the game.

Eh.

Though it's not the word choice that attracts me to the wagon so much as the content

Yeah? Explain that a little more.

mebbe we should vote tammy

Nah.

Actually, let's go here. That whole post was a lot of actions over motivations.

#238 seems a lot better.

I'm guessing Andrius isn't the man of my dreams either >_>

I can be the man of your dreams.

Oh sweet mercy, really?

Really?

13 pages since game start?
13 pages in about 18 hours?
Whilst I am in v/la times?

Cry me a river.

Cephrir is town!

[PrideandJoy]

You never quote posts of mine

I take it from that wall that there's no juicy townread on chesskid eh?

[Zdenek]

hhhmmm....

Out with it.