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In post 322, notscience wrote:I'm going to continue to delay my claim because there is 0 chance we lynch anyone else.

notscience wrote:Especially given this game, the claim delay means nothing.

Wait, what? What does delaying gain you, as Town? Unless you say otherwise I'm assuming this is a VT claim, because otherwise we have to wait for counterclaims, etc... momentum is critical. And if you're going to claim something else, I'll just quite DGB at you. So really, seriously, claim. I won't even kill you until Fart Bane gets back with his thoughts.

As for why I'm looking at your Town games right now, I feel I've made my case already for why you seem anti-town/scum here. So having looked at an inconclusive scum game, I was looking to see if what I'm seeing here is just notsci meta. So far I've seen nothing to change my mind, which is why I declared intent.

Hey flay, give me like two hours and il read this game again and actually find the scum. Would you be willing to shift your vote?

I'll hear any case, sure. Even (especially?) one from notsci.

In post 327, Mr. Flay wrote:I'll hear any case, sure. Even (especially?) one from notsci.

Same. Although at this point I'm pretty sure Notscience's suspicion/vote discrepancy indicates scum.

Jmo, how would you propose we get this game to be more pro town?

Flay, Why would scum delay his claim in this game?
I can see why a delay would be scummy in a fast paced game, but here there was enough time to see the intent to hammer come and prepare a claim.

In post 330, The-Duck wrote:Flay, Why would scum delay his claim in this game?

Why would town delay their claim in this game?

Scum are really the only ones who EVER need to delay, usually because they have to figure out what is safe to claim. Town should not be lying or dissembling about their claim, especially if they are a PR.

In post 331, Mr. Flay wrote:

In post 330, The-Duck wrote:Flay, Why would scum delay his claim in this game?

Why would town delay their claim in this game?

Scum are really the only ones who EVER need to delay, usually because they have to figure out what is safe to claim. Town should not be lying or dissembling about their claim, especially if they are a PR.

I disagree. Scum usually have PRs figured out in pre-game. Most games I've been in, that's been the case. The only reason I'm delaying is so I get time to make a formal case

Well, I hope so, because right now it looks like Caught Sum apathy, especially the "0 chance we are lynching anybody else" comment. Town should be posting reads in your situation.

And that still doesn't answer why you would delay the , as Town. If you'd just asked "don't hammer until I make my case" I believe we would have obliged you.

In post 334, Mr. Flay wrote:And that still doesn't answer why you would delay the

claim

, as Town. If you'd just asked "don't hammer until I make my case" I believe we would have obliged you.

Good to know now, not much use anymore.

Lets assume I said that btw

I'm a VT

So you're still working on that case, right?

Fart Bane, how about you?

We have a lot to look forward to. No one should hammer until we have all the content we're promised.

In post 319, Fart Bane wrote:I will give my reads and hopefully work on a larger post

In post 326, jmo16mla wrote:give me like two hours and il read this game again and actually find the scum

In post 335, notscience wrote:

In post 334, Mr. Flay wrote:If you'd just asked "don't hammer until I make my case"

Lets assume I said that btw

Yeah il get to it.

First thought. If not science is Vt where then do we start to look? It would put of badly behind the mafia. We have to wait till the absolute end of the day before we choose to lynch someone. I will be my reads when on a computer. I am also sorry I will most likely multi post.

I see what your saying Flay about scum having to think about a safe route. But it's also sort of te same for town. Claiming is a last resort tactic. Something that thinking through wouldn't harm. But we do need that claim soon.

This isn't going to have quotes because it's kinda difficult. I've been waiting to make this because I girued it would rake a while.

Now.

To figure out the scum, I started townhunting. Why did I start townhunting? Because lately, chasing scumreads hasn't worked out for me. So, if I can figure out who is town, I can figure out who is scum based from there.

Why do I think Flay is town? Flay's response to my incorrect meta, the hammervote. I expect scum-flay to be more careful than that. And, if he was scum, he had every right to hammer me for being anti-town and not directly stating my claim and etc.

Why do I think Jmo is town? This is weaker, but... Look at how he came into today. He knows flay is an easy mislynch for scum to push and automatically tries to shut that down. He's being very pro-active.

Why do I think Mindgame is town? Look at his posts. Especially him re:The hammer. He actually went an dchased down that information to prove his point. He's holding his cards, similar to what I've seen Wisdom do with his townreads.

That explains my townreads. Now, I have a pool of 3 for the scumteam.

Of the three, the-duck looks most likely to be town. But, I can't seem to find a reason to move him into my townblock.

Number- He immediately jumps to try to dissolve my townbloc. He then says, if I flip town, my reads will be given cadence. Now, here's what's weird. If my reads will be thought of if I flip town, wouldn't dissolving the BASIS for my reads o against that? Now, why would someone fight so fervently against that as scum? Because them and their scumbuddies are in the pool. What were his reads on those in my townbloc? The only two scumreads are a full one on me (which if I am lynched is proved wrong) and a slight one on jmo. So, he doesn't trust y reads, yet he agrees with some of them? Wouldn't it make sense for flay-mind to townbloc given how they were in both our townreads, yet he says not to trust MY reads.

Fart Bane- Mostly PoE, but here's a formal bit.

In post 266, Fart Bane wrote:Ah. Just for the record

vote not science [/b ]
I have a strange feeling from not science not exactly scum just more of not thinking anything through.

I lied before, I have to have this quote to show you how stupid this wagon on me is. If this doesn't SCREAM inside information to any of you then lmfao.

I'd like to see more of your case on Fart Bane, as he's a weak/unreadable presence right now. If you flip Town he'd be high on my list of places to look.

In post 340, Fart Bane wrote:But we do need that claim soon.

Are you even reading the game? Seriously. He claimed in #335.

He said he's vt multiple times before yes but I thought a claim was meant to explain why you are vt. Sorry didn't jnow.

Say NS flips town.

Everyone name two people who you think are scum.. GO.

Why? Why not wait for the flip?

Because then it will be tomorrow when I get answers? Tomorrow would be lylo? yeah.

In post 346, Mr. Flay wrote:Why? Why not wait for the flip?

because that's what I'm going to flip, lmfao.

I'll get a bit more on FB later.

Obviously you need to post your reads today, notsci (and anybody else we wagon, though it's getting superlate for that).

In post 347, jmo16mla wrote:Because then it will be tomorrow when I get answers? Tomorrow would be lylo? yeah.

Yeah, but if he flips Scum all that is for nothing. And basically you're telling scum who they should buddy/kill... seems premature to me.

Anyway, if he doesn't flip scum, I'd probably look at FB and you primarily. N1's postcount is still awfully low...